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Wednesday, June 26, 2019

Van Wagenen is managing Mets games from home in ‘unusual’ struggle

According to an industry source, it was the rookie GM who instructed Mickey Callaway to remove Jacob deGrom from a game in Arizona earlier this month in which the Mets ace sustained a hip cramp. After deGrom was removed from the game in the seventh inning, the bullpen imploded in a loss that added to the frustration of a 2-5 road trip.

The source said Van Wagenen, who was watching the game at home on TV, communicated with a member of the Mets support staff with an order to remove deGrom from the game. Callaway complied with the order, and deGrom was visibly upset as he departed the field, certain he could continue pitching. The manager was grilled for the move, but at the time insisted the decision was his.

“Hell, yeah, it’s unusual: Sending word to the dugout, telling the manager what to do?” the source said. “I have never heard of that before.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 26, 2019 at 08:15 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Howie Menckel Posted: June 26, 2019 at 11:26 AM (#5855997)
Van Wagenan's "denial" was one for the ages: yes, he communicates with the training staff during games and will continue to do so, as it is permitted. No, of course he can't and won't talk to the manager during games.

gee, if only the trainer and manager worked within several miles of each other during a game.....
   2. Rally Posted: June 26, 2019 at 11:34 AM (#5856001)
Sending word to the dugout, telling the manager what to do?” the source said. “I have never heard of that before.”

The source must not be familiar with the Yankees when George was at his peak.
   3. Itchy Row Posted: June 26, 2019 at 12:09 PM (#5856033)
It's similar to how Bobby Valentine managed the Mets by communicating with that guy with the mustache and sunglasses.
   4. The Run Fairy Posted: June 26, 2019 at 01:45 PM (#5856081)
The Yankees reportedly have a team of people in the tunnel, passing messages to Aaron Boone.
   5. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: June 26, 2019 at 01:59 PM (#5856086)
Billy Beane used a similar method to communicate with the folding chair.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: June 26, 2019 at 05:35 PM (#5856190)
Is it against the rules for GM and manager to communicate mid-game? Presumably not in all circumstances as you get those rare times when a player is traded mid-game.

I'm a bit confused -- deGrom had a hip cramp ... and Callaway kept him out there (and deG wanted to stay out there)? It might be overly cautious but that seems like an appropriate time for a GM to step in to protect the team's "asset."

Of course if he's butting his nose in on a regular basis, that's a different story.
   7. stevegamer Posted: June 27, 2019 at 01:19 AM (#5856275)
I think Callaway is gone very soon. Going to a reliever tonight seemed weird, and the Phillies broadcasters were saying that as well.
   8. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: June 27, 2019 at 10:12 AM (#5856315)
Yeah, Vargas had thrown only 77 pitches or so through 6.1, given up one or two hits (plus the one on the last batter) but otherwise was breezing through. It didn't make a whole lot of sense, unless there was something the announcers mentioned later on that I missed (which was possible, as I flipped away after a while, and with, it turned out, good reason).
   9. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: June 27, 2019 at 05:05 PM (#5856524)
The headline is weird. At first I was trying to figure out what unusual thing he was struggling with. A python? Gnomes?
   10. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 27, 2019 at 11:39 PM (#5856604)
So that Cano/Diaz trade is working out well, huh?
   11. Swoboda is freedom Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:00 AM (#5856645)
Maybe I shouldn't have bought that Diaz jersey.
   12. Swoboda is freedom Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM (#5856646)
Seriously Diaz has 4 blown saves and 5 losses. He strikeout numbers are good. He has given up a lot of home runs. Does anyone who knows pitching better that I tell me is this freaky or is there something wrong with him?
   13. Itchy Row Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:07 AM (#5856649)
The headline is weird. At first I was trying to figure out what unusual thing he was struggling with. A python? Gnomes?
It's the Mets, so I assumed it was smallpox.
   14. Howie Menckel Posted: June 28, 2019 at 10:10 AM (#5856651)
YTD is 4.94 ERA and 3.13 xERA
last month is 11.70 and 4.19

the last couple of games, he looks terrified. had two critical walks in that 5-run implosion in the finale vs Phillies. talent is there, but the ship be sinking and he doesn't know how to swim, it seems.
   15. Adam Starblind Posted: June 28, 2019 at 02:21 PM (#5856735)
I was pretty sure trading for Cano was stupid, but I never dreamed he would be worse than Alomar. Way worse than Alomar.

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