If you don't want batters to "disrespect" you, pitch better.

I also feel that there's likely an unaddressed race thing going on here that nobody wants to acknowledge

Have pitchers always gotten so upset about being "shown up"?

Babies. Babies are ruining baseball.

The umbrage-takers always seem to be white dudes, and the alleged offenders are often dudes of color.

For the life of me, I don't get why people here feel compelled to race to the top of the high horse after every fight or any time a player gets upset. We get it; we here at BBTF are all super mature and definitely would never get upset in a similar situation because we are not babies. Hurray

Personally, I think baseball fights are awesome.

Bo Porter thinks you aren't playing the race card the right way.

If you don't want batters to "disrespect" you, pitch better.

This might work as a motivational tactic but it's not much of an argument to me. Any pitcher, no matter how good, will give up hard hits.

This isn't new. In the good ol days the pitcher would stick one in the guys ear next time up. That's frowned upon now so people bark at each other and nothing much happens. I promise you Bob Gibson would've been just as irked as Gerrit Cole but he would have used a 95 mph fastball to the ribs as revenge rather than a good talking to.

I promise you Bob Gibson would've been just as irked as Gerrit Cole but he would have used a 95 mph fastball to the ribs as revenge rather than a good talking to.

Of course, being known as one while not actually being one is probably an advantage, and Gibson always seemed like a smart guy to me.

If he didn't mind getting under the skin of his opponents, he'd be awesome at it. But throwing the first punches of a brawl suggest otherwise.

He doesn't seem to like when his attention-drawing actions draw attention.

1. I thought Gomez had it coming in the McCann incident as he was way over the line.

I love when rape logic is used in sporting events.

This isn't new. In the good ol days the pitcher would stick one in the guys ear next time up. That's frowned upon now so people bark at each other and nothing much happens. I promise you Bob Gibson would've been just as irked as Gerrit Cole but he would have used a 95 mph fastball to the ribs as revenge rather than a good talking to.

This is the worst comment in BBTF history

This is the worst comment in BBTF history

I apologize, on second thought McCann was perfectly justified. Gomez was asking for it worse than a college girl in a short skirt. You wouldn't let a college girl traipse through your office in a short skirt, would you?

You wouldn't let a college girl traipse through your office in a short skirt, would you?

Maybe I'm reading this scrum the wrong way, but does Gomez seem to lose his mind way more than Cole? Cole just seems to call Gomez an idiot or something and moves on, while Gomez just freaks the heck out like a crazy person. I would think a "next time run the bases, you idiot" wouldn't be wildly out of line.

I would think a "next time run the bases, you idiot" wouldn't be wildly out of line.

Nothing about the bench guy who destroyed that reliever's face?

Martin Maldonado, who is already on the Pirates' list after spiking Jordy Mercer in Saturday's game.

I also feel that there's likely an unaddressed race thing going on here that nobody wants to acknowledge. The umbrage-takers always seem to be white dudes, and the alleged offenders are often dudes of color.

I also feel that there's likely an unaddressed race thing going on here that nobody wants to acknowledge. The umbrage-takers always seem to be white dudes, and the alleged offenders are often dudes of color.

If you don't like watching a Carlos gomez I don't know why such a person watches baseball

Mike

MM slid through the bag

Your post makes it sound like Martin was Ty Cobb

I also feel that there's likely an unaddressed race thing going on here that nobody wants to acknowledge. The umbrage-takers always seem to be white dudes, and the alleged offenders are often dudes of color.

I'm sure it exists, but can anyone think of a major brawl between two hispanic, or black, players? Or any major beef that did not involve a white player?

I'm sure it exists, but can anyone think of a major brawl between two hispanic, or black, players? Or any major beef that did not involve a white player?

Maybe I'm reading this scrum the wrong way, but does Gomez seem to lose his mind way more than Cole?

I'm sure it exists, but can anyone think of a major brawl between two hispanic, or black, players?

Pedro v Gerald Williams, aka the weirdest beanball war of all time.

I'm sure it exists, but can anyone think of a major brawl between two hispanic, or black, players? Or any major beef that did not involve a white player?

Yadi Molina - Brandon Phillips.

Has a Japanese player ever been involved in a brawl?

What about Pedro v Reggie Sanders, when Reggie charged the mound after an HBP delivered while Martinez was throwing a perfect game?

I think the problem is just white dudes. Clemens/Piazza, or Ryan/Ventura. I'm sure it exists, but can anyone think of a major brawl between two hispanic, or black, players? Or any major beef that did not involve a white player?

Has a Japanese player ever been involved in a brawl?

Has a Japanese player ever been involved in a brawl?

Folks, we don't know what Cole said ... we don't know what the Pirate who came out of the dugout said.

Cole said he told Gomez: "If you're going to hit it out of the ballpark, then you can stop and look at it. But it you're going to hit just a fly ball to center field, then don't stand and look at it."

racism - only ok if directed towards white people

Around 63% of all MLB baseball players are white, and that number is more like 70% for pitchers. Given that these flaps tend to be batter vs. pitcher, and pitchers tend the be the party that feels slighted, the odds are in favor of a white guy getting ticked off in any such situation even without any racial/cultural/ethnic tensions.

That being said, in the non-beanball division, I can't think of any "play the game the right way incident" that didn't involve a white guy in the role of the aggrieved party. I'm sure there have been some, but it does seem like pale guys are the ones most likely to take offense at a violation of the unwritten rules.

Folks, we don't know what Cole said ... we don't know what the Pirate who came out of the dugout said.

And why Cole pouting over another player's play is getting no attention here is puzzling.

So give Cole a pass if you wish but then what about Snider?

Not the first time doing what? Reacting to some uptight, holier than thou opposing player?

I've had plenty of heated exchanges with co-workers in my career, some of them involving many heated f-bombs, but it didn't give me or the other part carte blanche to start throwing punches or swinging batting helmets at peoples' heads.