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Wednesday, April 09, 2014

Vin Scully tells a story about Torii Hunter’s dad and a crack pipe (Video)

You could give the same background information about a player to 10 different broadcasters, and Scully would just be able to make it sound so much better than the others. And even when he’s telling a story about crack pipes, he still makes it sound great.

During the Los Angeles Dodgers-Detroit Tigers game on Tuesday, Scully was talking about Torii Hunter and told a story about Hunter’s father being a crack addict. The story went that Hunter’s father wore his son’s jacket and left a crack pipe in the pocket, and the pipe fell out of the pocket in a classroom after Torii wore the jacket to school. But the way Scully tells it … man, he is just so good.

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Repoz Posted: April 09, 2014 at 05:19 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TDF, situational idiot Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:33 AM (#4682656)
I wonder if his story about Alex Scherzer working on a college degree was so heartwarming?
   2. Rob_Wood Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:33 AM (#4682657)

um ... did this come off as rather inappropriate to you? (and I luv vinny)
   3. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 10:01 AM (#4682740)
the telling of the story by Vin, or TFA about the telling of the story?

It is a worthy story to tell, and as usual, he does a terrific job of telling stories. I'm not so sure it warranted a blog about this, although what do I know, my handle was inspired by Vin's telling of a story.
   4. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: April 09, 2014 at 10:02 AM (#4682741)
I was listening to the broadcast live and I found it a little weird last night. I think the phrase, "They're so gifted physically..." was probably the worst, as it seemed to imply that Hunter's childhood was somehow representative of black ballplayers (when in fact a higher percentage of black players come from families with above-average incomes than white players).

But it was more like a "grandpa doesn't know how to talk about race" rather than anything mean spirited.
   5. Comic Strip Person Posted: April 09, 2014 at 11:11 AM (#4682834)
I thought it was an unusual story to tell, although Vin used it to make two interesting points: Torii Hunter is a really nice guy, and many players have come from difficult circumstances, and still managed to excel. I find it strange that 6-4-3 got racial overtones out of it, because I sure didn't. I took the "They're all so physically gifted..." to refer to ballplayers, not black ballplayers.
   6. The District Attorney Posted: April 09, 2014 at 11:28 AM (#4682852)
I knew of a guy in sixth grade who wore a roach clip on a necklace. He just thought it looked good; he had no idea what it was. I suppose there are some educational environments where a 12-year-old using drugs is conceivable, but suffice it to say that this environment was the opposite of that. I believe that eventually, he did in fact have to do some frantic explaining to a school administrator.

Obviously not nearly as tragic as Torii's situation... just a cool story, bro.
   7. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 09, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4682865)
I don't know....... I think many middle class people are totally unaware of the world outside their own neighbourhood. Sometimes its good to hear a reminder of how the other half lives.
   8. Robinson Cano Plate Like Home Posted: April 09, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4682874)
I agree that the "physically gifted" comment was about ballplayers, not black ballplayers. He's putting the crack pipe story into the context of seeing your fabulously wealthy sports heroes on tv, and having no idea what challenges are there in their pasts.
   9. I am the Can Posted: April 09, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4682925)
I try to listen to/watch just about every game that Scully does these days, because, well, who knows how many more there will be. I have never heard him even approach the subject of race, though he seems frequently interested in country of origin (he always says "The Dominican" instead of "Dominican Republic," which I've always found weird and never heard anyone else do).

One strand of privileged white-people thought about race from that part of the 20th century, I think, is that it isn't dignified to talk about it. My reading of Scully is that he just pretends race isn't there. That's not necessarily a criticism about Scully, because I find him to be highly respectful of players in the way he talks about them, whoever they are.

Still, I've often wondered about this. It's well-known that Red Barber told Rickey that he was uncomfortable broadcasting Dodger games with Jackie Robinson, and Scully was just starting out at that time. Scully frequently spoken about what an influence Barber was, but I have never once heard him say anything about any conversations he and Barber had about Robinson.

Anyone ever heard anything along those lines?
   10. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 09, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4682926)
I suppose there are some educational environments where a 12-year-old using drugs is conceivable, but suffice it to say that this environment was the opposite of that.

I was offered drugs for the first time when I was in second grade (some kind of amphetamine) and in third grade was the first time I had a friend of mine smoke pot in front of me. There was a house in the neighborhood that had a plant in their backyard and we stole some leaves and tried to smoke it using binder paper to roll it but I'm not counting that because it was just too stupid. Anyway, I'm very lucky I never got caught up in all that. I had family members and friends who weren't so lucky.
   11. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 01:10 PM (#4682954)
Vin has frequently told stories about players' childhood and the many obstacles they've faced, his telling of Freddy Sanchez's club/pigeon foot comes to mind. I don't think there's anything racial to Vin's m.o. this is what he does every night.
   12. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 09, 2014 at 01:14 PM (#4682959)
My reading of Scully is that he just pretends race isn't there.


If we all did that the world would be a lot better place.
   13. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: April 09, 2014 at 01:39 PM (#4682994)
(he always says "The Dominican" instead of "Dominican Republic," which I've always found weird and never heard anyone else do
I hear "He's from The Dominican" about as much as "He's from the Dominican Republic." I live in LA, so we may have gotten that from Scully. Actually, Dominicans don't really come up that much outside of baseball discussions.
   14. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:19 PM (#4683043)
I try to listen to/watch just about every game that Scully does these days, because, well, who knows how many more there will be.


I do too, but stupid Charter cable.
   15. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:21 PM (#4683047)
I'm not sure if this is indicative of anything, but having listened to Vin for 20+ years, I've come to the conclusion that two of the people he respects most are/were Jackie and Rachel Robinson.
   16. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4683084)
I've come to the conclusion that two of the people he respects most are/were Jackie and Rachel Robinson.


I agree with this. Any and every story involving (even remotely) those two is done with such reverence. He probably came up with the axiom, 'If you don't have anything nice to say about someone, don't say anything at all.'
   17. KingKaufman Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:15 AM (#4683609)
Barber was Scully's mentor as a broadcaster, but don't forget that Barber was a Southerner born in Mississippi in 1908 and Vin was 20 years younger and from the Bronx. Not that everyone born in the '20s in the Bronx had enlightened racial attitudes, but I think it's safe to say that Barber and Scully's views on race might not have lined up too well.

As a kid, I remember Scully acknowledging race in kind of a startling way. On a TV broadcast in probably the late '70s, there was a shot of two pitchers warming up in the bullpen. They were both right-handed, I think, and one was black, the other white. I don't remember who they were but I'll give them fake names. Scully said something like "Joe Smith and John Jones warming up in the bullpen. Smith's on the left." Then there was a pause and Scully said, "Now why do we do that? Here's Joe Smith, who's white, and John Jones, who's obviously a fine black athlete. Why didn't I say that, instead of saying Smith's on the left?"

I distinctly remember this. It stood out because I don't remember Scully ever talking much about race. I also don't remember him pointedly not talking about it, or being condescending or patronizing or anything like that, though as a white kid I might not have picked up on things like that. I will say I heard his comment in the clip about how they're all so physically gifted as being about major leaguers, not black players. He has a long track record of saying that sort of thing about big league players in general. That's one of the great things about him. Even after all these years, he's still amazed at how good these guys are.
   18. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 10, 2014 at 07:59 AM (#4683627)
red barber was a tedious, dull, dreary, monotone would didn't know thrilling from sorrow. given that vin is anything but my takeaway has long been that scully observed barber and determined that doing the opposite in just about everything would serve him well.
   19. Rob_Wood Posted: April 10, 2014 at 08:38 AM (#4683647)

Well, I guess I "heard" the comment differently than everybody else. I don't listen to Vin very often, so I jumped right to a Jimmy-the-Greek scenario.
   20. KingKaufman Posted: April 11, 2014 at 03:41 AM (#4684263)
Harveys, I don't hear monotone from Barber. I think Scully sounds a fair bit like him. That thing on a bases-clearing hit where Scully will go (or at least used to go) "Here comes Smith, heeeere comes Jones and heeeeeeeeere comes Johnson!" That's Barber all the way. There are big differences, but I think Scully got a lot of his basic cadence from Barber.
   21. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 11, 2014 at 04:55 AM (#4684264)
That thing on a bases-clearing hit where Scully will go (or at least used to go) "Here comes Smith, heeeere comes Jones and heeeeeeeeere comes Johnson!"

Don't worry, the Dodgers are bound to get another bases-clearing hit someday. If not this season, then next.
   22. KingKaufman Posted: April 11, 2014 at 06:00 PM (#4684770)
Let's hope not, but there are two teams in most games, and Vin's not much of a homer.

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