Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Friday, December 30, 2005

Walk Like a Sabermetrician: Win Shares Walkthrough, pt. 5

Using his Walk Like a Sabermetrician blog, USPatriot has recently posted his 5th part to examining the Win Shares method from start to finish.  Why is he doing this?  From Part 1:

The reason why I am doing it is so that I can comment on what I think are the flaws in Win Shares at the actual stage of the method at which they occur. This way it is easier to see what I mean rather then running through the method, then making a laundry list of complaints at the end.

The rest: Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4.

I also recommend checking out USPatriot’s archives, as there’s other great material that hasn’t been linked to before via BTF.  In fact, I just realized USPatriot had a blog when I read Studes’s Ten Things I Didn’t Know A Couple of Weeks Ago, in which he provided a link to USPatriot’s study on Ranking the Leadoff Hitters.

Add reading the Walk Like A Sabermetrician archives to my weekend task list, which also includes reading the August “By The Numbers” and watching Seinfeld Seasons 5 and 6 (currently on The Non-Fat Yogurt), and I should be all set.

 

Damon Rutherford Posted: December 30, 2005 at 08:43 PM | 2 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: sabermetrics

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. dcsmyth1 Posted: December 31, 2005 at 05:52 PM (#1801131)

I didn’t know Patriot had a blog, either.

I find the rate stat series interesting so far, as is the leadoff rankings piece. I’m going to post some comments on the blog itself.

   2. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: January 02, 2006 at 09:14 PM (#1803205)

I too an surprised—and delighted—to learn that Patrio has a blog.

This Win Shares series is a good summary of WS’s conceptual flaws.  I agree wholeheartedly that the “zeroing out” is a real problem; it’s something I noticed the first time I read the book, and if I notice it, you’ve done something wrong.

Patriot makes a good point I hadn’t considered when he discusses how WS splits up credit between pitching and fielding by looking at team K/BB/HR rates instead of individual.  It might be better to define each pitcher as being his own “team” for the purposes of that step.

I’m just delving into the rest of the blog now, but there’s some great-looking stuff here.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Ray (RDP)
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 5-4-16
(173 - 9:05pm, May 04)
Last: There's a bustle in Misirlou's hedgerow

NewsblogOTP 2016 May 2: The Anti-Moneyball Election
(1390 - 9:05pm, May 04)
Last: I'm not Black I'm Orange Julius

NewsblogButler befuddled with lack of playing time
(19 - 8:58pm, May 04)
Last: Jacob

NewsblogOT: NBA Playoffs Thread 2016
(1121 - 8:56pm, May 04)
Last: smileyy

NewsblogMeet Bob McClure, the Phillies' 'mad scientist' | FOX Sports
(2 - 8:54pm, May 04)
Last: Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site

Sox TherapyGuys Who Are Not Major Leaguers
(45 - 8:39pm, May 04)
Last: Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site

NewsblogAtlanta Braves should bring back Chief Noc-A-Homa and the teepee
(79 - 8:35pm, May 04)
Last: I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape

NewsblogMore PED busts coming from Major League Baseball
(9 - 8:05pm, May 04)
Last: Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66)

Sox TherapyThree Questions: May 2016
(26 - 7:34pm, May 04)
Last: The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott)

NewsblogBryce Harper signs biggest endorsement deal for MLB player
(34 - 6:08pm, May 04)
Last: theboyqueen

NewsblogDodgers suspend Erisbel Arruebarrena for remainder of 2016 season
(14 - 6:04pm, May 04)
Last: bfan

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-4-2016
(18 - 5:31pm, May 04)
Last: Eric J can SABER all he wants to

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1992 Results
(3 - 5:26pm, May 04)
Last: DL from MN

NewsblogVin Scully Talks Beards For Five Minutes
(28 - 5:23pm, May 04)
Last: God

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1992 Ballot
(19 - 5:10pm, May 04)
Last: DL from MN

Page rendered in 0.2625 seconds
47 querie(s) executed