Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Friday, December 30, 2005

Walk Like a Sabermetrician: Win Shares Walkthrough, pt. 5

Using his Walk Like a Sabermetrician blog, USPatriot has recently posted his 5th part to examining the Win Shares method from start to finish.  Why is he doing this?  From Part 1:

The reason why I am doing it is so that I can comment on what I think are the flaws in Win Shares at the actual stage of the method at which they occur. This way it is easier to see what I mean rather then running through the method, then making a laundry list of complaints at the end.

The rest: Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4.

I also recommend checking out USPatriot’s archives, as there’s other great material that hasn’t been linked to before via BTF.  In fact, I just realized USPatriot had a blog when I read Studes’s Ten Things I Didn’t Know A Couple of Weeks Ago, in which he provided a link to USPatriot’s study on Ranking the Leadoff Hitters.

Add reading the Walk Like A Sabermetrician archives to my weekend task list, which also includes reading the August “By The Numbers” and watching Seinfeld Seasons 5 and 6 (currently on The Non-Fat Yogurt), and I should be all set.

 

Damon Rutherford Posted: December 30, 2005 at 08:43 PM | 2 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: sabermetrics

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. dcsmyth1 Posted: December 31, 2005 at 05:52 PM (#1801131)

I didn’t know Patriot had a blog, either.

I find the rate stat series interesting so far, as is the leadoff rankings piece. I’m going to post some comments on the blog itself.

   2. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: January 02, 2006 at 09:14 PM (#1803205)

I too an surprised—and delighted—to learn that Patrio has a blog.

This Win Shares series is a good summary of WS’s conceptual flaws.  I agree wholeheartedly that the “zeroing out” is a real problem; it’s something I noticed the first time I read the book, and if I notice it, you’ve done something wrong.

Patriot makes a good point I hadn’t considered when he discusses how WS splits up credit between pitching and fielding by looking at team K/BB/HR rates instead of individual.  It might be better to define each pitcher as being his own “team” for the purposes of that step.

I’m just delving into the rest of the blog now, but there’s some great-looking stuff here.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Sheer Tim Foli
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOTP 20 Feb. 2017: Baseball in a Time of Politics
(1033 - 9:01am, Feb 23)
Last: Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant

NewsblogMike Piazza Learns How to Be an Owner. Of a Soccer Team. In Italy.
(50 - 8:47am, Feb 23)
Last: PreservedFish

NewsblogSources: MLB, union agree to use dugout signal for intentional walk
(82 - 8:45am, Feb 23)
Last: villageidiom

NewsblogDave Stieb on Hall of Fame: 'I surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map' | MLB | Sporting News
(44 - 8:43am, Feb 23)
Last: Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle

NewsblogRick Ankiel drank vodka before starts to ease anxiety
(20 - 8:31am, Feb 23)
Last: Renegade (((JE)))

NewsblogTexas A&M Wins on Wild Pitch During IBB
(22 - 7:24am, Feb 23)
Last: Never Give an Inge (Dave)

NewsblogIs 300-wins club done adding members?
(98 - 6:28am, Feb 23)
Last: Cooper Nielson

NewsblogHow to Rationalize an Eric Hosmer Mega-Contract | FanGraphs Baseball
(36 - 2:57am, Feb 23)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogBaseball Reference has a New Look
(67 - 2:55am, Feb 23)
Last: cardsfanboy

NewsblogOT: January 2016 Soccer Thread
(249 - 1:11am, Feb 23)
Last: Textbook Editor

NewsblogMLB replaces retiring umps Jim Joyce, John Hirschbeck, Tim Welke, Bob Davidson
(27 - 1:05am, Feb 23)
Last: JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler....

NewsblogOT - December 2016 NBA thread
(2369 - 12:00am, Feb 23)
Last: maccoach57

NewsblogMLB commissioner Rob Manfred angry union won't agree to proposesd rule changes
(93 - 11:41pm, Feb 22)
Last: Joyful Calculus Instructor

Hall of MeritWillie Davis
(34 - 10:34pm, Feb 22)
Last: Bleed the Freak

NewsblogBaseball Hall of Fame to honor 'Homer at the Bat"
(30 - 10:05pm, Feb 22)
Last: Betts, Bogaerts, and D Price(GGC)

Page rendered in 0.3230 seconds
47 querie(s) executed