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Tuesday, April 02, 2013

WaPo: How the Chicago Cubs dominated political giving

The Cubs organization dropped $13.9 million on the campaign; that’s roughly $4 million more than the other all of the donations made by the other 29 teams combined.

The vast majority of the Cubs’ spending came from owner Joe Ricketts, who dumped $12 million of his own money on Ending Spending, a super PAC that ran ads dedicated to, well, ending spending. (Sheldon Adelson and his wife, Miriam, gave $1.1 million to Ending Spending as well.)

Most of the rest of the Ricketts family also gave to conservative causes including Restore Our Future, a pro-Mitt Romney super PAC. Interestingly, however, Joe Ricketts’ daughter, Laura, gave $575,000 to liberal causes during the election including LPAC, a political organization she founded to support issues of import to lesbians.

Political giving in MLB tilts heavily to the ideological right. “More than 75 percent of contributions tied to teams went to conservative causes,” writes Louis Serino, the author of the study

McCoy Posted: April 02, 2013 at 02:53 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John Northey Posted: April 02, 2013 at 04:53 PM (#4402326)
I say you Americans need the same rule we have up here - no corporate donations of any kind, no union donations, just individual ones with a $1100 per year cap per person (can max out federally at the local level and at the overall level, thus for you guys it would probably adjust to $1100 for senate, $1100 for congress, $1100 for president). No PAC's of any kind allowed. Period.
   2. zonk Posted: April 02, 2013 at 05:00 PM (#4402335)
I say you Americans need the same rule we have up here - no corporate donations of any kind, no union donations, just individual ones with a $1100 per year cap per person (can max out federally at the local level and at the overall level, thus for you guys it would probably adjust to $1100 for senate, $1100 for congress, $1100 for president). No PAC's of any kind allowed. Period.


And relegate our political consulting class to a lifetime of poverty, ill-provided for by the hole-ridden system they previously helped riddle with holes?

You cannot eat irony, my friend...
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 02, 2013 at 05:09 PM (#4402343)

I say you Americans need the same rule we have up here - no corporate donations of any kind, no union donations, just individual ones with a $1100 per year cap per person (can max out federally at the local level and at the overall level, thus for you guys it would probably adjust to $1100 for senate, $1100 for congress, $1100 for president). No PAC's of any kind allowed. Period.


We'll have to amend the First Amendment then.

If millionaires want to waste their money on losing causes, fine by me. If it were up to me, I'd drastically raise the amount of money you can donate directly to political candidates, and require better disclosure. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. The GOP already has a problem being perceived as the party of Mitt Romney millionaires. Having huge donations from rich people with extreme views won't endear them to the 47%.
   4. TomH Posted: April 02, 2013 at 05:42 PM (#4402397)
as opposed to poor people with extreme views?
rich people with progressively moderate views?
wasting money on winning causes?

but yes Royals, I heartily agree with your proposal if not the rhetoric.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: April 02, 2013 at 05:55 PM (#4402415)
Joe Ricketts is the nutty old man right, not really involved much with the Cubs?

There's really not much difference in corporate giving, the main difference is that there are some wacko right-wing rich folks who give massively to their lost causes (far outnumbering any wacko left-wing rich folks if there are any). I'm not sure many of those wackos were giving that heavily to Romney though, he wasn't that popular with the wacko crowd.

We'll have to amend the First Amendment then.

Or overturn one SC decision that decided money is speech and legislate rational campaign finance regulation.

as opposed to poor people with extreme views?

Not likely to come to light from a list of campaign donations.

wasting money on winning causes?

This would be the benefit of the Retro plan. Money spent on winners is rarely wasted but is repaid at a massive rate via loopholes, etc. The easier it is to trace the connection between donation and legislation, the more exposed things would be.
   6. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: April 02, 2013 at 06:10 PM (#4402436)
I would prefer publically financed campaigns with no private or corporate money at all. But it will never happen.
   7. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:18 PM (#4402468)
You cannot eat irony, my friend...


Canadians do.

Of course, they spell irony with a u.
   8. Joey B. Posted: April 02, 2013 at 07:20 PM (#4402470)
I say you Americans need the same rule we have up here - no corporate donations of any kind, no union donations, just individual ones with a $1100 per year cap per person (can max out federally at the local level and at the overall level, thus for you guys it would probably adjust to $1100 for senate, $1100 for congress, $1100 for president). No PAC's of any kind allowed. Period.

Thanks for the sage advice, but we're doing OK down here with the rules we have, chugging right along as the preeminent nation on earth for 70+ years running.
   9. John Northey Posted: April 02, 2013 at 10:40 PM (#4402723)
Heh. The US is not as much the top dog as all of you like to believe. Right now the US is in hock to China in the trillions and getting deeper every year. Think about how much that is. We went through an ugly period here in the 90's to get the federal gov't off deficit financing (then we elected a right wing party which has put us back into it, but slowly working out of it without going as nuts as you guys did). Right now the Canadian dollar is dancing near parity with the US dollar after being worth just 61 cents US a decade ago. That is crazy fast for appreciation.

Your system is extremely broken. Debates are about how to avoid automatic cuts not about how to improve your nation. You have more spent on elections than ever before but counting ballots is still a major problem over a decade after the humiliation of the Florida mess. You're House of Representatives is viewed horribly yet they get re-elected due to fooling around with the shape of the areas they represent so they don't represent anything. Just crazy.
   10. zonk Posted: April 02, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4402743)
Heh. The US is not as much the top dog as all of you like to believe. Right now the US is in hock to China in the trillions and getting deeper every year. Think about how much that is. We went through an ugly period here in the 90's to get the federal gov't off deficit financing (then we elected a right wing party which has put us back into it, but slowly working out of it without going as nuts as you guys did). Right now the Canadian dollar is dancing near parity with the US dollar after being worth just 61 cents US a decade ago. That is crazy fast for appreciation.


Bah... Japan owns nearly as much US debt as China -- and the SS Trust funds owns more US debt than both of them combined.... in fact, I think the federal employees pension fund still owns more notes than China. What's more - the economic/export policy of China pretty much requires them to keep gobbling it up anyway to keep chinese exports and chinese labor competitive.

Not that I disagree with the brokenness of our system, but the portion of debt owned by China isn't a part or concern around that brokenness...
   11. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: April 02, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4402747)
The US is not as much the top dog as all of you...


Please stop being stupid. It's fine to be critical of the U.S., but there's no need to assume everyone here is like Joey.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 02, 2013 at 11:04 PM (#4402776)
Plus American teams have won 27 of the last 29 World Series.
   13. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 03, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4402822)
You cannot eat irony, my friend...

Canadians do.

Of course, they spell irony with a u.


urony?

ironu?

ummm...

iruny?

   14. Swedish Chef Posted: April 03, 2013 at 02:12 AM (#4402870)
I would prefer publically financed campaigns with no private or corporate money at all. But it will never happen.

I don't see how that could possibly work with third parties, either you build an impassable undemocratic barrier for them to climb to get into the system, or you shower all the political crackpots with free money.
   15. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: April 03, 2013 at 08:00 AM (#4402897)
I don't see how that could possibly work with third parties, either you build an impassable undemocratic barrier for them to climb to get into the system, or you shower all the political crackpots with free money.


Showering crackpots with money would certainly be entertaining, and would also make the mainstream candidates seem more appealing by comparison. "Say what you will about Obama, at least he doesn't think that the moon landings were faked!"
   16. Hack Wilson Posted: April 03, 2013 at 08:08 AM (#4402898)
They should have given the money to the Wrigleyville alderman, Tom Tunney, who the rooftop owners bought for, I'm guessing, quite a bit less.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: April 03, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4403499)
I don't see how that could possibly work with third parties, either you build an impassable undemocratic barrier for them to climb to get into the system, or you shower all the political crackpots with free money.

The US already has performance limits for public financing. That was supposedly one of the "important" aspects of Nader's foolishness was to get the Greens across the public financing line. I assume all countries with publicly financed elections do -- anywhere from 1% to 5%.

In the US, states differ dramatically in terms of how hard it is to get on the ballot in the first place. Some require only a couple thousand signatures or so, some require substantially more. The famous "butterfly ballot" arose in part because the Florida ballot had something like 12 presidential candidates on it ... in NC, if I recall, we had only 3, even Nader couldn't get on it.

Ironically, the libertarians are the only third party sufficiently well-organized to get on the ballot in every state.

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