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Sunday, June 03, 2012

WaPo: Lawmakers’ absence from Clemens trial is latest twist

Known on Capitol Hill for wielding his own subpoena power, Issa is fighting a subpoena from Clemens’s attorneys, who say that their client has a right to confront his accuser. House lawyers say Issa is too busy to appear in court and is shielded from doing so by a relatively obscure provision of the Constitution.

Legal experts are split in their opinions on how Walton might rule, but they mostly agree that the showdown highlights a central absurdity of the trial: Lawmakers sought the Justice Department investigation into Clemens’s testimony but won’t appear in court. . . .

To make their case, prosecutors must prove that Clemens lied and that those false statements were “material,” or important, to Congress’s work. But lawmakers on the committee have not testified to help prosecutors prove that element of the alleged offense. Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.), then-chairman of the committee, refused to comment on why he did not take the stand, citing a judicial “gag” order. Issa, the current chairman, also declined to comment. . . .

But not all members of Congress felt that way. At least one congressman called the hearing a “show trial,” and the Republican minority staff issued a lengthy and highly critical report about the allegations contained in the Mitchell report.

And then there is Issa, who ascended to chairman in 2011 after Republicans took control of the House. The California congressman had seemed perturbed that the committee was holding the hearing, saying it appeared too focused on alleged steroid use by an individual player.

“We’re not prosecutors, and we’re not supposed to worry about a former pusher and a former [alleged] user,” he said. “We’re supposed to be dealing with a whole industry that had a problem.”

He also described the hearings as a witch hunt. “We don’t really have a mandate to be looking at this,” he told New York’s Daily News. “To me, it smacks of the McCarthy era.” He later told the same newspaper that “this was all about entrapping Roger Clemens.”

For obvious reasons, Clemens’s attorneys would like to have Issa repeat those comments to the jury and allow the defense to attack the “materiality” of the charges. If the committee’s chairman thought the hearing was a farce, they argue, how can jurors convict someone of lying during the proceedings?

So they subpoenaed Issa. In lengthy legal filings, House lawyers argued that Issa is too busy to testify and is protected by the Constitution’s “Speech or Debate” clause, which they wrote “bars compelled testimony about legislative acts.”

Clemens’s legal team, led by attorneys Rusty Hardin and Michael Attanasio, argued that Clemens’s right to a fair trial trumps any such protections for lawmakers, especially when the testimony would allow them to undercut a key element of the case. Issa, who attended part of the House investigators’ deposition of Clemens, is “well positioned to opine about the legislative purpose of the questions to Mr. Clemens and the materiality of his answers to those questions,” the pitcher’s attorneys wrote. “And Chairman Issa’s numerous comments to the media leave no doubt that his testimony will be” helpful to Clemens’s defense.

JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: June 03, 2012 at 09:07 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. jwb Posted: June 03, 2012 at 03:43 PM (#4146923)
Is the speech and debate clause obscure?
   2. Sunday silence Posted: June 03, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4146934)
well I cant recall it being invoked very often especially for a trial such as this. So I guess the law and how it is supposed to work is not very clear. Going from memory, so maybe I am missing something.
   3. Ray (RDP) Posted: June 03, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4146953)
"Too busy to appear."

Tee. Hee.
   4. villageidiom Posted: June 03, 2012 at 05:08 PM (#4146966)
So the defense is trying to compel someone to appear so his opinion of the trial can be entered as testimony? If it weren't a farce already, wouldn't this put it over the top? I can see his opinion being relevant toward determination of whether there should be a trial, but given that decision has been made already that opinion is irrelevant to the trial, isn't it? It's kind of like being in the sixth inning and saying you think they should've kept the tarp on the field and postponed.

This seems so unnecessary that it bewilders me. Is this part of a "doesn't hurt to try" defense? Are they this desperate? Am I overthinking this?
   5. JDLk Posted: June 03, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4146973)
@4 - I think the opinion is relevant as to whether Clemens testimony was material or important to Congress' work. The excerpt above explains this pretty well. It is not about the trial, it is about the purpose of the original hearings.
   6. Benji Posted: June 03, 2012 at 10:51 PM (#4147186)
At least if Issa doesn't show up, no one will have their car stolen.
   7. bjhanke Posted: June 03, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4147242)
If the constitutional clause includes that congressmen cannot be compelled to testify "about legislative acts", I want to know exactly which legislative act this testimony is supposed to be about. Did Congress end up passing any laws about steroid use in baseball? I don't remember any. Does just holding a hearing constitute a "legislative act?" - Brock Hanke
   8. McCoy Wilfong for Money Posted: June 03, 2012 at 11:29 PM (#4147244)
No Jar-Jar Binks jokes yet?
   9. A triple short of the cycle Posted: June 03, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4147268)
no Jar-Jar Binks jokes yet?

Jar-Jar Binks walks into a bar on Tatooine.... ouch!
   10. Zipperholes Posted: June 04, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4147302)
@4 - I think the opinion is relevant as to whether Clemens testimony was material or important to Congress' work. The excerpt above explains this pretty well. It is not about the trial, it is about the purpose of the original hearings.
I know you were just stating the rationale and not giving your own opinion here, but I don't get it. Lying under oath at a Congressional hearing is cool, as long as the hearing isn't "material" or "important" to Congress's work?

And if Issa wasn't the chairman at the time of the hearing, why is his opinion, rather than Waxman's, the relevant one as to the significance of the hearing?
   11. Shredder Posted: June 04, 2012 at 01:11 AM (#4147339)
I know you were just stating the rationale and not giving your own opinion here, but I don't get it. Lying under oath at a Congressional hearing is cool, as long as the hearing isn't "material" or "important" to Congress's work?
when it come to Congress, I find the "under oath" distinction to be pretty lame, even though it's legally operative. Congressmen lie in their official capacity all the time with no repercussions. They can go in front of the press a day or two later to explain how the "misspoke" or "were not intending to make a factual statement". Fudging the truth in front of a bunch of professional liars about a victimless "crime" strikes me as just about dumbest lawbreaking event I can imagine. So to sum up, "cool" is a value judgment left to the individual, but lying under oath in front of a bunch of people under no such restrictions about a complete non-event is something I'm not going to get worked up about.
   12. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: June 04, 2012 at 01:54 AM (#4147360)
I know you were just stating the rationale and not giving your own opinion here, but I don't get it. Lying under oath at a Congressional hearing is cool, as long as the hearing isn't "material" or "important" to Congress's work?
Courts do not decide whether actions are "cool." They decide whether actions violate the law. Materiality is an element of at least certain of the offenses with which he is charged; if the lie wasn't material, it isn't a crime.
   13. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: June 04, 2012 at 01:55 AM (#4147361)
Shredder: yes. I've said on several occasions: Lying to Congress should be a crime when lying by Congress is a crime.

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