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Friday, January 11, 2008

Was Watching: Kevin Kennedy: Member Of ‘04 Red Sox Used PEDs

Yea, yea…and Kennedy went on to add that cicatrice belongs in the HOF.

On the drive home tonight, from work, I caught the very last minutes of The Show on X-Radio (MLB Home Plate) with Rob Dibble and Kevin Kennedy.

At that time, Kevin Kennedy was addressing a caller who had some thoughts on the Mitchell Report.

I was pretty surprised at what Kennedy had to say there. In wanting to make a point about the Mitchell Report not being the all-inclusive bible of naming PED users, Kevin Kennedy said that a current colleague of his, who was with the Boston Red Sox in 2004, told him that he (the colleague) witnessed, for a fact, a member of the ‘04 Red Sox injecting himself in the buttocks with a needle full of PEDs. Kennedy said that the user is no longer a member of the Red Sox - but, he was a player on the team that won the ring in 2004. As per Kennedy, his colleague said that the “user” was giving a demo (to the “colleague”) on how to do the injection.

It’s pretty interesting that Kennedy would throw this out there, in the last few minutes of a radio broadcast. I wonder if anyone will pick up on it? Too bad George Mitchell missed this one.

Repoz Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:26 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Frisco Cali Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:38 AM (#2665989)
Did this unnamed player have the trots?
   2. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:39 AM (#2665991)
Don't care.
   3. Voros McCracken, Human Shield Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:40 AM (#2665992)
I can't take it anymore:

IT WAS ME!! IT WAS ME!! In desperately trying to keep up with smarter statheads, I ate 5000mgs of Adderall and washed it down with two gallons of Jolt Cola. I've never done MLEs so fast!
   4. AADeuce Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:40 AM (#2665993)
Pokey Reese
   5. TVerik Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:41 AM (#2665994)
What I find amazing is his ability to write legibly on his own butt!
   6. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:43 AM (#2665995)
Hey Voros, wasn't there some story in 2003 about Derek Lowe confronting you about DIPS? How'd that turn out?
   7. TVerik Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:44 AM (#2665996)
I can't imagine that Kevin Millar would be able to get his head out of the way in order to do that injection. So it clearly wasn't him.
   8. Traderdave Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:46 AM (#2665998)
Filthy lies. Both kevin & George Mitchell PROVED it couldn't be so.
   9. Voros McCracken, Human Shield Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:54 AM (#2666002)
Hey Voros, wasn't there some story in 2003 about Derek Lowe confronting you about DIPS? How'd that turn out?

I roided up into a neanderthalian rage, and promptly kicked his ass!!

Then I wept uncontrollably for two years straight.

Okay I lied about the first part.
   10. AROM Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:54 AM (#2666003)
Millar? no. Mueller? Maybe.
   11. alskor Posted: January 11, 2008 at 06:58 AM (#2666005)
Shouldnt it be relatively easy to come up with the colleague? Im drawing a blank. Cant be a player from the 04 team. Im looking at the coaching staff... Lynn Jones? Dave Wallace? Nobody fits.

Here's the current Fox broadcast crew and everyone who appeared: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_on_FOX_broadcasters

I got nothing here. I seriously doubt Kennedy would make up anything like that, but who the hell could it be?
   12. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 11, 2008 at 07:08 AM (#2666009)
It's Mr. Eyechart!
   13. Justin 'The Cespedobear' T Posted: January 11, 2008 at 07:40 AM (#2666019)
I don't think the colleague has to be an analyst for FOX.
   14. Too Much Coffee Man Posted: January 11, 2008 at 09:04 AM (#2666036)
Without having heard it, it's unclear who he considers colleagues; maybe anybody who is a "baseball insider" like himself and "Dibs".
I did not catch this part, but on the same show, I heard Dibble say (again in dissing the Mitchell Report), that a:) nobody playing baseball would know who else did or didn't do steroids; and b) hell, the report didn't name 25% of the guys HE knew were doing steroids. Remarkably (at least for any one other than Dibble), he said these 2 things in the same sentence!
   15. Walt Davis Posted: January 11, 2008 at 09:43 AM (#2666042)
I have this friend who knows this guy who swears he sold a gerbil to Richard Gere.

But don't worry, nobody involved in that story is currently on the Red Sox.
   16. Bobby Swift Posted: January 11, 2008 at 09:57 AM (#2666045)
This story is pretty much on the same level as a lot of the 'evidence' in the Mitchell Report.
   17. Tim Stauffer, Trot Nixon's Coming (Dan Lee) Posted: January 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM (#2666046)
Let's see...

Member of the 2004 Red Sox, ridiculously muscular, freak injuries to connective tissue.

Gosh, I can't think of anyone it might be.

This is just my speculation, of course.
   18. Voros McCracken, Human Shield Posted: January 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM (#2666049)
I have this friend who knows this guy who swears he sold a gerbil to Richard Gere.

I was gonna bring up a story about a guy who saw Rod Stewart getting his stomach pumped, but decided...
   19. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: January 11, 2008 at 12:31 PM (#2666059)
Doesn't matter, we beat Glaus in the ALDS and the myriad of roiders in the ALCS, so it still counts.
   20. Joe Bivens, Idiot Posted: January 11, 2008 at 01:57 PM (#2666070)
I bet it was Nomar.

Edit...Or Nixon, as in #1's.
   21. The_Ex Posted: January 11, 2008 at 03:06 PM (#2666091)
I have heard Dibble, on the same program, say that Mitchell missed a lot of guys that Dibble knows used PED's.

If Dibble and Kennedy were called in by Bud I assume they too would suddenly develop selective amnesia rather than give up names.
   22. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: January 11, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2666094)
If Dibble and Kennedy were called in by Bud I assume they too would suddenly develop selective amnesia rather than give up names.

After being visited in bed by a horse head wrapped in a bloody sock.
   23. Colin Posted: January 11, 2008 at 03:52 PM (#2666125)
IT WAS ME!! IT WAS ME!! In desperately trying to keep up with smarter statheads, I ate 5000mgs of Adderall and washed it down with two gallons of Jolt Cola. I've never done MLEs so fast!


But let me guess, you only did it one time, and as soon as you did it you regretted it and never, ever, EVER did it again.
   24. chris p Posted: January 11, 2008 at 04:04 PM (#2666134)
i count 3 players that played for both the 1996 red sox that kennedy managed and the 04 sox. 2 of them seem pretty likely candidates for steroid use. the 3rd throws a knuckleball.
   25. Chris Hansen, NBC Dateline Posted: January 11, 2008 at 04:17 PM (#2666143)
Do I have to be the first? Well, fine.

2004*
   26. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: January 11, 2008 at 04:25 PM (#2666151)
IT WAS ME!! IT WAS ME!! In desperately trying to keep up with smarter statheads, I ate 5000mgs of Adderall and washed it down with two gallons of Jolt Cola. I've never done MLEs so fast!


But let me guess, you only did it one time, and as soon as you did it you regretted it and never, ever, EVER did it again.
AND he did it to help his Primate teammates
   27. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: January 11, 2008 at 05:04 PM (#2666200)
I have this friend who knows this guy who swears he sold a gerbil to Richard Gere.


A former colleague of mine swears - SWEARS - that at least one "rectal gerbilectomy" had to be performed at a California hospital where he'd worked as an undergraduate. Sure, he didn't actually see it himself, but he heard about it. He wouldn't budge from proclaiming the absolute infalability of his evidence, even after I brought in a copy of Jan Brunvand's book documenting the tale as a classic urban legend.
   28. Teddy the Wonder Lizard Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:00 PM (#2666524)
If Dibble and Kennedy were called in by Bud I assume they too would suddenly develop selective amnesia rather than give up names.


Dibble wouldn't, but Kennedy's unconditional love of his own voice would likely overcome any amnesiac tendencies.
   29. Chris Hansen, NBC Dateline Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:06 PM (#2666526)
Teddy the Wonder Lizard? Now there's a name I haven't heard in years.
   30. Teddy the Wonder Lizard Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:22 PM (#2666540)
Kevin Kennedy said that a current colleague of his, who was with the Boston Red Sox in 2004, told him that he (the colleague) witnessed, for a fact, a member of the '04 Red Sox injecting himself in the buttocks with a needle full of PEDs. Kennedy said that the user is no longer a member of the Red Sox - but, he was a player on the team that won the ring in 2004. As per Kennedy, his colleague said that the "user" was giving a demo (to the "colleague") on how to do the injection.


This has a certain "Simone in Ferris Bueller's Day Off" vibe:

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night"

I don't think any thinking person is crazy enough to believe the names in Mitchell's report is anything more than the tip of the iceberg. One of the reasons we know this is because Mitchell said as much himself. He had to limit the information in the report to what he actually learned thru speaking with a select few witnesses who, for one reason or another, were compelled to speak with him. He couldn't name McGwire, who all but admitted PED use, because he was not connected to Radomski and/or McNamee or his other witnesses. Liklihood is that there is/was a Radomski-like character somehow associated with all or most MLB teams, including the Red Sox.

That said, Kennedy's use of hearsay to prove a point that Mitchell himself made when making his report public, is pretty half-assed. Then again, so was his work as a manager.....unless you count the year he led all of baseball in checking himself out in the mirror.
   31. Sexy Lizard Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:28 PM (#2666544)
Kennedy says that the colleague was "with the 2004 Boston Red Sox", which doesn't necessarily mean he was a player. Hell, it doesn't necessarily mean he was an employee, just "with" them.

A lot of media people were with the 2004 Boston Red Sox. My guess is that the colleague is Robothal, because he has the power to be in all places at all times.
   32. Famous Original Joe C Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:40 PM (#2666553)
Do I have to be the first? Well, fine.

2004*


If 2004*, then 1989****$%#%#^%&@#%&#%&!%&%!!!!!!ibeeebv hjd
   33. robinred Posted: January 12, 2008 at 04:04 AM (#2666708)
23. kevin Posted: January 11, 2008 at 09:15 AM (#2666098)

Wow, the formatting on this page just radically changed when I refreshed

Anybody else having the same problem?


Mitchell has his crack team of computer guys trying to make the thread unreadable.

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