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Thursday, August 18, 2011

Washington Post: Stephen Strasburg struggles in his third rehab start

Pitching for the Hagerstown Suns of the Class A South Atlantic League, Strasburg was rocked for four hits — three of them doubles to the wall — and five earned runs by the visiting Lexington Legends while recording just five outs, three of them by strikeout. Three runs had already scored and 25 pitches had left Strasburg’s hand before he recorded his first out of the game.
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Strasburg’s velocity was fine, as his fastball sat at 96 to 98 mph and touched 99 mph at least once on the radar guns of scouts behind home plate. He also broke off a handful of excellent curveballs, some of which were virtually untouchable. What was missing was the command Strasburg displayed in breezing through three dominating innings for the high-Class A Potomac Nationals five days earlier.

“The bottom line is, if I throw fastballs that are just a hair up like they were today,” he said, “they’re going to get hit a country mile, anywhere.”

NTNgod Posted: August 18, 2011 at 04:55 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Sean Forman Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:03 PM (#3902959)
“The bottom line is, if I throw fastballs that are just a hair up like they were today,” he said, “they’re going to get hit a country mile, anywhere.”

I wouldn't expect low A hitters to be tattoing 96-99 MPH fastballs, but I guess they can.
   2. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:15 PM (#3902964)
I wouldn't expect low A hitters to be tattoing 96-99 MPH fastballs, but I guess they can.
I guess most professional hitters can hit a straight fastball, no matter how hard it's thrown.
   3. Chris Needham Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:19 PM (#3902967)
Watching Jordan Zimmermann last year -- who had roughly the same timeline for coming back -- it seemed like the pitch he had the toughest time with was his fastball. He could still throw it up there hard, but he didn't really have command of it.

Is that a general pattern? If so, what is it about a fastball that's tougher, in general, than some other pitches?
   4. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:27 PM (#3902973)
At this point the velocity being back is perhaps the most important thing, trust me as Met fan I've seen quite few pitchers over the years come back from TJ surgery minus their fastballs
   5. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:27 PM (#3902974)
Is that a general pattern? If so, what is it about a fastball that's tougher, in general, than some other pitches?
I'm just guessing here, but so long as a breaking ball (or other off-speed pitch) has some bite, it probably isn't going to be crushed. If you have no control of a curveball/slider/whatever, you might end up walking the park, but you're unlikely to get killed. On the other hand, if you can't control a fastball, you're going to end up putting one where someone can crush it.
   6. Banta Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:38 PM (#3902979)
At this point the velocity being back is perhaps the most important thing, trust me as Met fan I've seen quite few pitchers over the years come back from TJ surgery minus their fastballs

Unless the reason why his control is off is because he's overthrowing it to get to that velocity.
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 18, 2011 at 02:52 PM (#3902983)
I guess most professional hitters can hit a straight fastball, no matter how hard it's thrown.

Yup. The cliche is that guys don't advance b/c they can't hit the curve ball.

I don't think anyone makes even A ball who can't catch up to a grooved 95 MPH FB.
   8. morineko Posted: August 18, 2011 at 03:32 PM (#3903021)
Velocity being back: good; command not being back: bad, because that's really what Strasburg's strength is. Lots of dudes throw 99. Lots of them don't know where it's going.
   9. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 18, 2011 at 03:46 PM (#3903034)
They were showing the game on MLB Network last night (God I love that channel) and he was getting squeezed horribly in the first, when he gave up at (I think) two of those doubles.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2011 at 03:47 PM (#3903035)
Unless the reason why his control is off is because he's overthrowing it to get to that velocity.

True, although I'd think that the one thing the Nationals would have told him was NOT TO OVERTHROW during his rehab.
   11. Knock on any Iorg Posted: August 18, 2011 at 05:23 PM (#3903142)
I'm quite confident that it was here that I read that pitchers who underwent Tommy John surgery often are not their old selves the season immediately after they return. Rather, they regain their old form the season following their return.* Based on this, I'm surprised that Strasburg is doing as well as he has so far and don't consider last night's game a setback.

* I'm not good at research so if someone feels motivated to look it up that might help.
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 18, 2011 at 05:46 PM (#3903169)
He'll probably be fine.

The general rule of thumb on TJ is that a guy can throw hard after about a year, and throw accurately after about another six months.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2011 at 05:57 PM (#3903189)
I read the headlines, and the first thought that came to my mind was "So". It's his third rehab start, let him be, I would expect at least another 5 or so starts before a fan should even be concerned about anything.
   14. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: August 18, 2011 at 06:06 PM (#3903201)
It's only his third rehab start. Not too worried. It'd be nice if he made it back to the bigs this season. I went to one of his starts at Nats Park last year and it was great fun.
   15. Shock Posted: August 18, 2011 at 06:11 PM (#3903205)
Not sure there are too many things dumber than getting yourself suspended over taking an illegal placebo.
   16. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: August 18, 2011 at 07:31 PM (#3903289)
Not sure there are too many things dumber than getting yourself suspended over taking an illegal placebo.


Please tell me this is meant for the Mike Jacobs thread and Strasburg is not popping hgh flavored sugar pills.

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