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Sunday, March 10, 2013

WBC Day 10 OMNICHATTER

12:30- Venezuela vs. Spain
4:00- Canada vs. USA
7:30- Puerto Rico vs. DR
6:00 AM (Monday)- Netherlands vs. Cuba (ELIMINATION GAME)

All games on MLB Network and ESPN Deportes.

Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM | 312 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 04:38 PM (#4385652)
Why the hell is Mike Stanton being replaced by Shane Victorino? I'm cheering for Canada, so I appreciate the help, but aesthetically I don't appreciate Torre treating this tournament like an all-star game where everyone needs to play. It's an elimination game, for ####'s sake.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 04:42 PM (#4385659)
I also don't get why Detwiler, the other lefty starter, pitched yesterday. He should be ready to jump in now.
   3. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 04:50 PM (#4385660)
braun is the first milwaukee player who while i appreciate his talent regard as a bit of a jerk. milwaukee has been blessed with a lot of good non-jerk players

i gave sheffield a pass in milwaukee because he was very young and immature

geez ryan, that was right there. yuck
   4. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 04:51 PM (#4385661)
Stubby Clapp sighting!
   5. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 04:54 PM (#4385662)
taylor green is one of the few guys who when i watch him he 'looks' like a real hitter but the results do not follow

he has puzzled me
   6. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 04:55 PM (#4385663)
Man, I miss Kaat in the Yankees booth.
   7. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:03 PM (#4385668)
Memo to USA baseball team: you don't have to be like the 1980 Olympic hockey team and fall behind in every game...
   8. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:06 PM (#4385669)
Lawrie's absence really hurt Canada there.
   9. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:07 PM (#4385670)
Man that was nice bunt by Zobrist.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:07 PM (#4385671)
Positive result, but STOP SACRIFICING BUNTING WITH ALL STARS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME
   11. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:07 PM (#4385672)
heads up running by mauer. lot of guys wouldn't have known to make the immediate break
   12. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:07 PM (#4385674)
boy that liner really knuckled
   13. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:09 PM (#4385675)
Could do without he bunting but glad to be tied up. Why can't the US get a decent start?
   14. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:16 PM (#4385680)
adam loewen

goofy looking person

or

goofiest looking person?
   15. JE (Jason) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:16 PM (#4385681)
According to the Wide World of Kaat, when you sacrifice bunt, the opposing team reflexibly loses its composure.
   16. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:19 PM (#4385682)
Sure Kaat thinks that, what with all the trouble he had fielding...
   17. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:27 PM (#4385685)
15 - I think Kaat is reaching a bit there but in a tournament like this with teams thrown together I think you have a greater chance if some confusion on a bunt play than you normally would.

Really any defensive play where you need multiple players involved (DPs, relays too) are a bit less automatic than they are in regular season baseball.
   18. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4385690)
Holland at 64 pitches is done (though he is technically allowed to pitch to one more batter). Gave them a decent start, I suppose.
   19. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:41 PM (#4385693)
He's been throwing well. Personally I'd let him have Votto but I suspect he's done.
   20. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:49 PM (#4385695)
Sigh. Not even gonna try, fellas?
   21. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:49 PM (#4385696)
Nothing says Dream Team like a Twins setup man.
   22. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 05:53 PM (#4385697)
Nothing says Dream Team like a Twins setup man.


Nothing says clueless like a guy who has no idea how well Glen Perkins has pitched the past two seasons.

Four of the five batters up were lefties and he's held them to a 192/236/253 and 222/300/289 line the past two years since moving full-time to the bullpen. SSS bit him there, but Perkins has been very good.
   23. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:00 PM (#4385704)
I would have hit Stanton for Phillips.
   24. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:02 PM (#4385706)
Nothing says clueless like a guy who has no idea how well Glen Perkins has pitched the past two seasons.


I didn't realize how good he had become, but the comment wasn't really meant as an insult. He's better than Heath Bell or Tim Collins who somehow made the team. I just think the bullpen overall is incredibly underwhelming.
   25. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:02 PM (#4385707)
I was certain Aumont was going to give up some runs there.
   26. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:04 PM (#4385709)
I haven't said this since October:

It's over.
   27. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:05 PM (#4385710)
I think having a guy like Perkins makes sense. He's used to the rule and I think taking good setup men/LOOGY types to fill that role is wise.

The failure of the offense is pathetic.
   28. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:05 PM (#4385711)
I really like this tournament, but it's so frustrating to watch Team USA's B-team.

Then, to rub it in, MLB Network shows a series of commercials with Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, David Price, etc.
   29. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:06 PM (#4385712)
I didn't realize how good he had become, but the comment wasn't really meant as an insult. He's better than Heath Bell or Tim Collins who somehow made the team. I just think the bullpen overall is incredibly underwhelming.


Fair enough. I didn't mean to get so snarky on you.
   30.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:12 PM (#4385714)
It's over.


Worst case scenario you'll be facing John Axford trying to hold a one-run lead.

And I doubt it gets to that point.
   31. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:15 PM (#4385716)
Joe Mauer is very good at baseball.
   32. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:15 PM (#4385717)
Brewers bullpen time.
   33. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4385718)
USA baseball should be embarrassed that their players don't care enough to represent the country. The WBC is a fantastic event...since the USA wants to treat it like dogshit they deserve to get their asses kicked again and again. These other teams are too good to think you'll win with your c class pitchers and Eric fickkng Hosmer.


   34. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4385719)
Okay, now it's over.
   35.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:17 PM (#4385720)
See? Now it's over.
   36. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4385723)
Tying and go ahead runs on base. I'm calling a double play.
   37. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4385724)
Zobrist, you idiot!
   38. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4385725)
By the way, my backup rooting interest is Puerto Rico, because I think baseball in the emerald isle needs a boost after taking a back seat to DR and Venezuela these past several years.

oh Jesus, #### you Torre you piece of ####...
   39. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4385726)
STOP WASTING OUTS
   40. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4385727)
For Christ sake swing the bat!!!
   41. Blastin Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:18 PM (#4385728)
My lord.
   42. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4385729)
Not only did he pop it up, he was bunting towards the wrong base. Great work, Zobrist.
   43.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4385730)
Adam Jones 3 run homer, calling it now
   44. Shredder Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4385731)
Small ball can never fail. It can only be failed.
   45. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4385732)
#### yeah Adam Jones!
   46. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4385733)
Yes!!
   47. Blastin Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4385734)
See? Swing the ####### bat.
   48. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4385735)
Joe Torre is a genius.
   49. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4385736)
Finally let the man swing the bat!!
   50. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4385737)
Yes!
   51. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4385738)
A hit with runners on base? Are we allowed to do that?
   52. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4385739)
Why the #### are we bunting?

"and now the us only has 5 outs left"

Maybe we shouldn't have wasted that 6th trying to bunt if outs are so precious.
   53.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4385740)
Good night.

It's going to be funny reading all these posts after the US has won the tournament.
   54. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4385741)
I assume Affeldt pitches the 8th?
   55. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:22 PM (#4385743)
David Hernandez is warming up for the US.
   56. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:23 PM (#4385746)
Look ay the USA players pretending they care
   57. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:24 PM (#4385747)
These other teams are too good to think you'll win with your c class pitchers and Eric fickkng Hosmer.


I think there's a very decent chance that Hosmer ends up being better than Doucheira as early as this year.

Plus, outside of Prince Fielder, who else were you going to send as a replacement once Doucheira got hurt? Swisher? Konerko? Allen Craig? Are those names really that much more intimidating?
   58. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:26 PM (#4385748)
Victorinoed
   59. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:26 PM (#4385749)
Willie Bloomquist isn't useless; he scored the tying run! And the US goes up by another run, so we can forget his contribution even more.

Also, I'm disappointed in Sean - putting "replacement level" in B-Ref doesn't find you any specific player.
   60. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:27 PM (#4385750)
Doucheira


Curious to know what Texiera has ever done that's "douchey".
   61. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:27 PM (#4385751)
I get the qualifying rules but it seems kinda dumb to make Mexico qualify.
   62. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:27 PM (#4385752)
It's going to be funny reading all these posts after the US has won the tournament.

The 2016 Qualifying tournament, you mean?

OK, looks like we got this one after all, disaster averted. Now can we please have the real American players in the next round? You know, actual major league pitchers and guys who can hit the ball once in a while?

You don't really think we have a chance in hell against the Dominicans and Cubans and Japanese with these doofuses, do you?
   63. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:28 PM (#4385753)
Look ay the USA players pretending they care


In fairness I think the guys that are there DO care. The guys on my personal shitlist are the guys like Trout who couldn't be bothered. I was irrationally pissed last night seeing him sitting there watching. I can understand the pitchers not showing but I really don't see a good reason for position players not to be there.
   64. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4385754)
You don't really think we have a chance in hell against the Dominicans and Cubans and Japanese with these doofuses, do you?


To be fair, this team probably wins at a .600 clip against those teams. What you really want is WORLD DOMINATION.
   65. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4385755)
Curious to know what Texiera has ever done that's "douchey".


Eh, his face is very douchey first of all. Then there's the fact that he manages to own the Twins (game 2 '09, game 1 '10) despite rapidly losing all of his skills against everyone else qualifies him in my mind.
   66. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4385757)
[57] Hosmer had an ops+ of 82 last year...
   67. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4385758)
Plus, outside of Prince Fielder, who else were you going to send as a replacement once Doucheira got hurt? Swisher? Konerko? Allen Craig?


Hosmer's career OPS+ is 100. None of those guys are superstars, but they're all much better.
   68. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4385759)
All these Canada players look so ... Canadian.
   69. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4385760)
Adam Jones and "Scott Victorino"? Every time I think this commentary team can't get any worse, I am reminded that there is no floor.
   70. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:30 PM (#4385762)
Torre, you have a chance to be smart by putting the catcher in the 9 hole so he won't come up next inning.
   71. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:31 PM (#4385763)
Even if USA makes it I might stick with Puerto Rico.
   72.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:31 PM (#4385764)

You don't really think we have a chance in hell against the Dominicans and Cubans and Japanese with these doofuses, do you?


Yes. Easily.
   73. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:32 PM (#4385765)
Adam Jones and "Scott Victorino"? Every time I think this commentary team can't get any worse, I am reminded that there is no floor.


Thank god I'm in a bar without commentary. All I have to listen to is the old guy next to me slurping the hot sauce from his chicken wings off his fingers .
   74. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:33 PM (#4385767)
Plus, outside of Prince Fielder, who else were you going to send as a replacement once Doucheira got hurt? Swisher? Konerko? Allen Craig? Are those names really that much more intimidating?


I am a Sox fan so I am biased but I'd definitely take Konerko (currently hitting .409/.435/.955 this spring) over Hosmer. OPS+ of 128, 140, & 161 over the past 3 seasons.

Maybe he declined the invite though, I'm not sure.
   75. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:34 PM (#4385768)
Kaat: "At this stage of the game you go with your best weapons." Unless of course, your best weapon is going to pitch the 9th against the bottom of the lineup.
   76. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:34 PM (#4385769)
A US win also makes tonight game fairly significant. Winner gets Italy, loser gets USA.
   77. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:35 PM (#4385770)
Freddie freeman makes that play at first every time.
   78.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:35 PM (#4385771)
Adam Jones and "Scott Victorino"? Every time I think this commentary team can't get any worse, I am reminded that there is no floor.


I said this last night, but try switching to the Intl feed with Rick Sutcliffe. He defines the floor.
   79. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:36 PM (#4385772)
Yes. Easily.

You're dreaming. This team has a classic case of "can't get out of their own way"-itis. Utterly clueless.

Sure, if they played like they actually cared, like they're actually capable of playing, they can win. But they haven't, and it ain't likely they will now. They're all worried about chipping a nail and endangering their bazillion-dollar contracts.

Either take this seriously, or don't bother.
   80. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:36 PM (#4385773)
You don't really think we have a chance in hell against the Dominicans and Cubans and Japanese with these doofuses, do you?


You mean the same Japanese team that had a hard time beating Brazil and was 1 strike away from losing to Chinese Taipei?
   81. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4385774)
Please put Kimbrel in
   82. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4385775)
Uh oh...
   83. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:39 PM (#4385776)
I said this last night, but try switching to the Intl feed with Rick Sutcliffe. He defines the floor.


That was the international feed. Steiner was the one who said it. Sutcliffe is beyond the floor. Sutcliffe is below the foundation. Sutcliffe is unspeakably awful. Any broadcast with Rick Sutcliffe is automatically worse than the Buck & McCarver team or Hawk, or any other broadcasting team in baseball. He is unspeakably smug and almost always wrong. He's the anti-Scully.
   84.   Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:41 PM (#4385777)
Please put Kimbrel in


To face Pete Orr and Cale Iorg? That's just mean.
   85. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4385778)
IS it too late for maddux to suit up?
   86. Blastin Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:43 PM (#4385780)
Doucheira


Really? I think he's the dullest person alive, but... this is the insult you come up with?
   87. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:43 PM (#4385781)
Is it too late for maddux to suit up?


During a broadcast yesterday they were saying that Maddux would play in the WBC if he was asked and he could get in game shape. I would have loved to see that.
   88. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4385782)
Are we really goin to blow this without using our best reliever?
   89. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4385783)
Kimbrel now Joe? Please?
   90. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4385784)
Hernandez in full meltdown mode
   91. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4385785)
They're not even going to visit the mound?
   92. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:44 PM (#4385786)
It's Adam Loewen. Why be worried?
   93. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:46 PM (#4385788)
Oy vey
   94. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4385789)
which hernandez is this??
   95. JE (Jason) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4385790)
That was the international feed. Steiner was the one who said it. Sutcliffe is beyond the floor. Sutcliffe is below the foundation. Sutcliffe is unspeakably awful. Any broadcast with Rick Sutcliffe is automatically worse than the Buck & McCarver team or Hawk, or any other broadcasting team in baseball. He is unspeakably smug and almost always wrong. He's the anti-Scully.

Never mind what comes out of Sutcliffe's mouth; the mere sound of his voice makes the average listener cry out in pain.
   96. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4385791)
Joe Torre has #### in his skull.
   97. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4385792)
Oh! So close!
   98. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4385793)
which hernandez is this??


It's David Hernandez, the Diamondbacks reliever.
   99. crict Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4385794)
Time for some Pete Orr magic...
   100. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4385795)
Sutcliffe is the worst.
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