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Sunday, March 10, 2013

WBC Day 10 OMNICHATTER

12:30- Venezuela vs. Spain
4:00- Canada vs. USA
7:30- Puerto Rico vs. DR
6:00 AM (Monday)- Netherlands vs. Cuba (ELIMINATION GAME)

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Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM | 312 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4385796)
Kimbrel now
   102. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:49 PM (#4385797)
Let's bring in the sidearmer with large platoon splits.
   103. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:50 PM (#4385798)
Torre and Bowa strike me as an odd pairing for a manager-bench coach. Like that couple you know that you would never put together.
   104. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:51 PM (#4385799)
An intentional walk? W-T-F.
   105. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:51 PM (#4385800)
WHAT? THE? ####?
   106. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:51 PM (#4385801)
We're walking Pete Orr? Really?
   107. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:52 PM (#4385802)
We're walking pete ####### orr?
   108. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:52 PM (#4385803)
How, exactly, did Joe Torre win 4 WS as a manager?
   109. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:52 PM (#4385804)
Walking the bases loaded. This guy better have good control.
   110. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:52 PM (#4385805)
Walk Pete Orr so Cishek can face another lefty? Torre is a moron.
   111. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:53 PM (#4385806)
I honestly don't know about Torre's current state of mind, or his awareness of the teams' rosters.
   112. Shredder Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:53 PM (#4385807)
I hate this strategy. Not the walk necessarily (though i dont like that either), but I hate bringing a guy in and telling him to throw four straight balls so that he ends up in a situation where he absolutely can't walk the next guy. Leave Hernandez in for the IBB.
   113. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:53 PM (#4385808)
Intentionally walking a hockey player!
   114. Swedish Chef Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:53 PM (#4385809)
I hate that kind of IBB.
   115. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:54 PM (#4385810)
Never mind what comes out of Sutcliffe's mouth; the mere sound of his voice makes the average listener cry out in pain.


His voice gives me headaches. His partner thinks that teams will pitchout with runners on second and third. It's an embarrassing shitshow.
   116.     Hey Gurl Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:54 PM (#4385811)
Sutcliffe going on about the pressure on poor Cishek and Lucroy. Are you kidding? How about the pressure on this AA hitter pinch hitting with the bases loaded in the 8th against a major leaguer?

I wish they could find some non-Americans to do the USA games.
   117. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:55 PM (#4385812)
How, exactly, did Joe Torre win 4 WS as a manager?


Large doses of Mariano Rivera in situations like these ...
   118. Swedish Chef Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:55 PM (#4385813)
The fool is vindicated.
   119. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 06:56 PM (#4385814)
Huge out by Cishek
   120. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:01 PM (#4385816)
Would be really nice to get Phillips in from second. Especially with Votto due up in the bottom of the frame.
   121. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:01 PM (#4385817)
Braun needs to go back on roids.
   122. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:02 PM (#4385820)
Woo! LuCrooooooooy!
   123. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:02 PM (#4385821)
The ibb ensured a votto pa in the 9th.
   124. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4385823)
An insurance run!
   125. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4385824)
Damn. Nice effort from the Canucks today. Just couldn't hold off the 'Muricans.
   126. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:06 PM (#4385826)
Jim Kaat thinks that someone else will have to get the save if the Canadians come back.
   127. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:07 PM (#4385827)
Do you have a time machine, rtg?
   128. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:08 PM (#4385828)
Kaat (paraphrasing): "You don't want to bring in your closer now because you might need him if you the tie game up"

So instead, you leave a vastly inferior pitcher in the game who might make it harder for you to tie the game.
   129. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:08 PM (#4385830)
Going for the jinx?
   130. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:10 PM (#4385832)
that was a tough play for the third baseman
   131.     Hey Gurl Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:10 PM (#4385833)
I went hunting for rabbits and I was attacked by a bear, but I didn't want to use my gun because I might need it to get the rabbits.
   132. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:12 PM (#4385835)
Primey nom to Shock for 131.
   133. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:15 PM (#4385837)
hooray
   134. What's the realistic upside, RMc? Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:16 PM (#4385838)
Well, that oughta do it.
   135. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:16 PM (#4385839)
The much maligned Hosmer actually got a big hit!
   136. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:17 PM (#4385841)
"With one swing of the bat, the kansas city royals may have gotten their superstar first baseman back."

Rick Sutcliffe 3/10/13
   137. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:17 PM (#4385842)
Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, and Italy in the 2nd round. I feel pretty good about the USA making the semis.
   138. eddieot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:17 PM (#4385843)
Hosmer redeems his selection over, um, everybody else.
   139. WillYoung Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:17 PM (#4385844)
Good thing Kimbrel is available for the five-run lead.
   140. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:17 PM (#4385845)
Huge hit there. Thank heavens.
   141. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:19 PM (#4385846)
The guys on my personal shitlist are the guys like Trout who couldn't be bothered. I was irrationally pissed last night seeing him sitting there watching.

Well, at least he had enough interest to attend the game. Seems like more players could have done that, too.
   142. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:21 PM (#4385848)
I'm actually cheering for curacao in this tournament, but i'd like the US to at least make the semis.
   143. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:22 PM (#4385850)
Rick sutcliffe thinks the 8th inning was the greatest inning in the history of the WBC.
   144. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:23 PM (#4385852)
These announcers are terrible. Best innings for the US in the WBC? Arguable. Best ever? Have you even watched the other games in this tournament?
   145. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:24 PM (#4385854)
Just... one... more... out
   146. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:26 PM (#4385855)
Bring on the other citizens of the United States!
   147. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:26 PM (#4385856)
U-S-A! U-S-A!U-S-A! U-S-A!U-S-A! U-S-A!U-S-A! U-S-A!U-S-A! U-S-A!
   148. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:27 PM (#4385857)
Whew. My hopes of a Derek Holland vs the Netherlands finals are still alive...
   149. ajnrules Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:27 PM (#4385858)
So for seeding in the next round, am I correct to say USA would get first seed because USA won the head to head match-up with Italy? And Mexico would have to play-in for 2016?
   150. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:29 PM (#4385860)
After getting mercy-ruled by Italy, Canada came back a put up a good fight (pun possibly unintentional). Canadians can blame this loss on Russell Martin.
   151. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:34 PM (#4385865)
[149] That is correct. I have a feeling that Mexico will be put in essentially a rigged bracket, like Canada and Taipei were this year. Something like France, South Africa and the Czech Republic. A WBC without Mexico would just feel wrong.
   152. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:41 PM (#4385869)
Now this is atmosphere!
   153. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:44 PM (#4385872)
No Beltran for PR?
   154. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:45 PM (#4385873)
Beltran is the DH, I think
   155. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:46 PM (#4385874)
Who is pitching?
   156. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4385877)
Uh....he was out by a mile at first.
   157. Greg K Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4385878)
Thanks for the great game you American chaps. That was the most fun I've had watching baseball in several years, hopefully the Jays manage to top it for me this coming year though.

Chris Robinson impressed yet again.

I'd like to have held it against the Americans, but Zobrist, Mauer, Lucroy, Wright, and Braun are just so damn likable.
   158. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4385880)
This could be over quick.
   159. Posada Posse Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4385883)
The pitcher is Orlando Roman, who pitched last year for the Yakult Swallows.
   160. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 07:54 PM (#4385884)
Big pitch early...
   161. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:02 PM (#4385889)
Is Falu a bug leaguer. Doesn't ring a bell..
   162. Greg K Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4385892)
Is Falu a bug leaguer. Doesn't ring a bell..

29 year old rookie with the Royals in 2012.
   163. Posada Posse Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:03 PM (#4385893)
Debuted with Kansas City in 2012. 29 years old.
   164. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:04 PM (#4385895)
Wow, he's a 29 year old rookie. Cool!
   165. Greg K Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:05 PM (#4385896)
I didn't quite catch that, how old is he?
   166. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:05 PM (#4385897)
Come on Carlos...bomb.
   167. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4385900)
Dudes...Miami is gonna be ####### ROCKIN with these teams in the pool.
   168. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:11 PM (#4385902)
Iirc, falu and roman went to the same juco in Iowa (Indian hills) - it has had a number of guys from pr
   169. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:19 PM (#4385905)
How come sports is the only place you still hear the term JuCo....
   170. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:23 PM (#4385906)
Giving the crappy Molina a start...
   171. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4385907)
Weekly Journalist makes a good point. Is it the same thing as a community college? Are any community colleges actually called "junior colleges"? Maybe it's a thing that exists in regions of the country where I've never been.

Or is it like a fake college that does nothing but prepare athletes, like some of those basketball prep schools (Oak Hill Academy).
   172. Harvey Berkman Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:25 PM (#4385908)
Yeah, why isn't Yadier playing?
   173. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:32 PM (#4385911)
Dear MLB Network: Please find more advertisers for your network, so we don't have to watch the same 5 commercials every break. After seeing the heartwarming story of a man and the horse he felt wasn't as important to him as money about 2,000 times in the last 2 weeks, my desire to drink Budweiser is still at 0%.
   174. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:35 PM (#4385913)
"Junior college" was once the preferred term, but fell out of favor as the institutions tried to puff up their reputation. I should know, having attended one. They're real schools that grant the all-important two-year Associates degree.
   175. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:35 PM (#4385914)
Junior College is an outdated term for Community College...the term comes from the fact that you graduated with Junior standing at the four year college you moved on to.

I am a community college professor and haven't heard anyone in academia use the term ever. Lots o football recruiting sites though...
   176. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:36 PM (#4385915)
Okay, go figure that Hosmer and Victorino would get RBIs- and Hosmer would have the hit that finally put the game totally out of reach....
   177. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:51 PM (#4385927)
Also, here's what I think the qualifiers will be... problem is that, unlike last time where one of the qualifiers (South Africa) definitely didn't have either a stadium or a country nearby that did, two- possibly three- definitely have the stadium to play in, and all four slot pretty well into a region, making it hard to figure out where to put outliers like South Africa and Israel...

Monterrey or a similar Mexican City: Mexico, South Africa, UK, France (Mexico should walk)
Regensburg, Germany (probably the best stadium complex in Europe outside of Italy and Holland): Germany, Spain, Israel, Czech Republic (only the Czechs have no shot)
Panama City, Panama: Brazil, Panama, Colombia, Nicaragua (wide open pool)
Sydney, Australia: Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand (Australia should walk but New Zealand is improving quickly so could give them some trouble)
   178. Greg K Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:52 PM (#4385928)
Dear MLB Network: Please find more advertisers for your network, so we don't have to watch the same 5 commercials every break. After seeing the heartwarming story of a man and the horse he felt wasn't as important to him as money about 2,000 times in the last 2 weeks, my desire to drink Budweiser is still at 0%.

Watching it on ESPN America in the UK was even worse. No commercials at all, just the same NCAA highlights every single break in play. Surely something other than TCU beating Duke has happened in the past 6 months!
   179. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:53 PM (#4385929)
I was enjoying the Taiwanese commercials on Justin TV.
   180. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:55 PM (#4385930)
Can Melito Perez pitch for Nicaragua?
   181. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4385933)
How are Spain's facilities? Bad enough that they can't host?
   182. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4385934)
Another JuCo reference.
   183. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:58 PM (#4385935)
Spain just takes facilities from Latin America and declares them Spanish territory.
   184. Greg K Posted: March 10, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4385936)
Regensburg, Germany (probably the best stadium complex in Europe outside of Italy and Holland): Germany, Spain, Israel, Czech Republic (only the Czechs have no shot)

I'd like to say "agreed" but Regensburg is the only European stadium I've been to. I'd probably be forced to agree on the Czechs as well, but I will say they put up a valiant fight against the Germans last autumn. Their 3B and SS even pulled off the classic Manny Machado-fake-throw-to-first-get-the-runner-rounding-third trick. (Unless it was Germany nabbing them on that play...which now that I think about it, it probably was). Either way, for a few innings it looked like they had a chance!

They also had a catcher named Peter Cech (I think), who was hitting baseballs with a hockey goalie stick before the game.
   185. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:13 PM (#4385943)
Boricuas!!
   186. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:20 PM (#4385945)
Robbie!

not really sure what else you could want from a ballgame.
   187. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4385946)
Holy ####, Ricky Bones!!
   188. Tschingsch Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:23 PM (#4385947)
With 4 years between tournaments, I'd like to think MLB/WBC would pretty much make this open to any country who wanted to field a team and have multi-tiered tournaments, or work out something with the IBAF. If the point of the WBC is to grow the sport internationally, then you want to get as many places involved as possible. Sure, you'll have some really bad teams in the lower tiers, but if you want the sport to grow internationally, then you have to start somewhere. And, following the same qualifiers as this year, a team technically could go from the lowest tier all the way to qualifying, which would be pretty cool.
   189. RollingWave Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:36 PM (#4385952)
@188 yeah that would be awesome, the problem is that most country probably can't even field a team . unlike Soccer
   190. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4385957)
How are Spain's facilities? Bad enough that they can't host?


I believe they still have a secondary (maybe 3,000 seats) facility left over from the Barcelona games, but I don't think it's aged very well, if I remember correctly.
   191. Yardape Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:49 PM (#4385958)
Monterrey or a similar Mexican City: Mexico, South Africa, UK, France (Mexico should walk)
Regensburg, Germany (probably the best stadium complex in Europe outside of Italy and Holland): Germany, Spain, Israel, Czech Republic (only the Czechs have no shot)
Panama City, Panama: Brazil, Panama, Colombia, Nicaragua (wide open pool)
Sydney, Australia: Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand (Australia should walk but New Zealand is improving quickly so could give them some trouble)


Pakistan and Argentina are each ranked higher than New Zealand and France in the current IBAF rankings, so presumably they would be in the qualifiers. I would go something like:

Perth pool: Australia, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand
Rio pool: Brazil, Panama, Argentina, Israel
Monterrey pool: Mexico, Nicaragua, Pakistan, South Africa
Regensburg pool: Spain, Germany, UK, Czech Republic
   192. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 09:53 PM (#4385960)
So, I looked up Indian Hills CC - Ramon Vasquez, Rafael Carmona, Ruben Gotay, and Jose Rodriguez (actually drafted from Fla Int'l) are other Puerto Ricans who reached the bigs from there - their current roster has nine from the island (also guys from VZ, the DR, Canada - over 40% of their roster is from another country). Longest careers: Duane Kuiper and Shane Rawley. Most famous alum: Tom Arnold, for whom the softball field is named.

Some schools have retained the name "junior college", but that does seem to be going away outside of athletics, afaict.
   193. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM (#4385964)
@188

Assuming that the relegation was done in a way similar to how the WBC relegation to qualifiers worked, the "C-level" qualifier would look something like this (taking the other countries from IBAF rankings):


France (no clue): France, Sweden, Belgium, Switzerland

Czech Republic (I do remember seeing the Czech Republic has a pretty good baseball facility that, while not WBC quality, could probably hold a qualifier): Czech Repubic, Croatia, Greece, Russia

Nicaragua (Estadio Dennis Martinez): Nicaragua, Argentina, Ecuador, Honduras

Thailand (no idea): Thailand, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Indonesia

Some of those qualifiers would be very, very ugly, and it'd get even uglier after that in a hypothetical D-level:

Switzerland: Switzerland, Austria, Ireland, Finland

Russia: Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Bulgaria

Honduras: Honduras, Peru, Chile, Guatemala

Indonesia: Indonesia, Hong Kong, Afghanistan, Guam (if you want to meld Hong Kong with China, then add in Palau)

And it'd get even worse from there...
   194. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:12 PM (#4385966)
Keep going...
   195. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM (#4385971)
Are there any white Dominicans? I know that Carlos Delgado is an example of a rare black Puerto Rican.
   196. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4385972)
Seriously, Der K? Okay, fine, here's the E-level although I won't be able to stay with the rough regions I've been having:

Finland: Finland, Romania, Hungary, Georgia
Bulgaria: Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia
Guatemala: Guatemala, Iran (doesn't really fit anywhere else), Fiji (like Iran), Bahamas
Guam: Guam (actually, whatever happened to Hattig?), Palau, New Caledonia, Nepal

...
   197. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM (#4385973)
Pakistan can just convert some bowlers....like the Pirates.
   198. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM (#4385974)
Pakistan can just convert some bowlers....like the Pirates.


Yeah, I wonder why MLB isn't pushing India, even though Rinku and Dinesh would be the only two guys...
   199. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM (#4385975)
I doubt there are 25 people in Nepal who even know the rules of baseball.
   200. JJ1986 Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM (#4385976)
Are there any white Dominicans?


At least one.
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