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Sunday, March 10, 2013

WBC Day 10 OMNICHATTER

12:30- Venezuela vs. Spain
4:00- Canada vs. USA
7:30- Puerto Rico vs. DR
6:00 AM (Monday)- Netherlands vs. Cuba (ELIMINATION GAME)

All games on MLB Network and ESPN Deportes.

Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM | 312 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. Der-K thinks the Essex Green were a good band. Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM (#4385977)
196 - i just want to see how far you'll go, gamingboy. :)

i'd imagine a large country(like india) could outplay, say, new caledonia - even with a relative lack of experience.
africa also real light on representation
   202. Joe Kehoskie Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:38 PM (#4385978)
Panama City, Panama: Brazil, Panama, Colombia, Nicaragua (wide open pool)
Perth pool: Australia, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand
Rio pool: Brazil, Panama, Argentina, Israel
Monterrey pool: Mexico, Nicaragua, Pakistan, South Africa

The WBC is great, but if it has one structural flaw, it's situations like the above, in which actual baseball-playing countries get left out while countries with few or no MLB or MiLB players — or MLB or MiLB players who are little more than ringers — get spots in the event.

If I was running this thing, I'd simply double the field to 32 teams (it was already at 28, including the qualifiers) and then start the event 7-10 days earlier, without holding any qualifying rounds months before. This would bring 16 additional teams into the actual event instead of playing in qualifiers that get little or no attention. It would also prevent situations like Brazil having its only ML player help the team qualify but then skip the actual event.
   203. RollingWave Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4385979)
on a separate note, the MLB host is getting a lot of flak for sending Taiwan's players home in 13 separate flight and all in econ class .....

   204. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4385980)
i'd imagine a large country(like india) could outplay, say, new caledonia - even with a relative lack of experience.
africa also real light on representation


I think the main reason that there was that gameshow to find a pitcher was basically done on the idea that with so many people there must be SOMEBODY who can throw a ball relatively quick with some control. Really, they should try the same thing in China.
   205. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:46 PM (#4385981)
(spits) ...triple.

/tomhanks
   206. Joe Kehoskie Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:49 PM (#4385982)
on a separate note, the MLB host is getting a lot of flak for sending Taiwan's players home in 13 separate flight and all in econ class .....

I would guess MLB would have preferred booking them on one flight, but they probably don't make reservations until teams are eliminated.
   207. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:50 PM (#4385983)
A falu is a bear
   208. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:50 PM (#4385984)
Holy cow, Rinku Singh is still pitching and doing okay. Seriously, Pirates, if he's got a ERA below 4 in high-A or AA, and you are out of it in September, please bring him up as a publicity stunt. Hell, bring up Gift Ngoepe and all the other prospects from emerging baseball markets.
   209. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4385985)
Nice curveballs from Casilla
   210. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:55 PM (#4385986)
Ohhhh! What a play
   211. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4385987)
Heck, I bet these days, Veeck would put out a team in September where all of the starting nine came from a different country... just because.
   212. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:04 PM (#4385990)
Puerto Rico has lost some star power but all their dudes can play.
   213. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:06 PM (#4385993)
Puerto Rico has lost some star power but all their dudes can play.


Yes, and given some of the good guys the MLB Academy has begun putting out (Correa, most notably), the PR may be on it's way back up again. It'll never be the factory of talent it once was, but it's not dead- and advancing out of the first round like they did this time will also help.
   214. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:10 PM (#4385994)
So things could change but we seem to be headed for a Puerto Rico/USA matchup in Miami. Last time those two hooked up in Miami or was an absolute classic.

USA better come to play, because Los Boricuas sure will.
   215. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:10 PM (#4385996)
That red lobster hostess is so hot.
   216. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:11 PM (#4385997)
Oddly enough, despite all the millions in India whose greatest joy is throwing the baseball-sized cricket ball roughly 60 feet (actually 66 feet), the two winners of the competition, Rinku and Dinesh, were both trained as javelin throwers.
   217. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:18 PM (#4386001)
So, it's looking like USA-Puerto Rico and DR-Italy.

Although the fact that Italy is even there is proof that they can pull upsets, something tells me Italy is in deep trouble.
   218. Gamingboy Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:18 PM (#4386003)
Cano MVP.
   219. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:24 PM (#4386005)
Heck, I bet these days, Veeck would put out a team in September where all of the starting nine came from a different country... just because.


Well, just because...

C - Yadier Molina PR
1B - Joey Votto CAN
2B - Robinson Cano DR
SS - Alexi Ramirez - CUB
3B - Miguel Cabrera VEN
LF - Andruw Jones - NED
CF - Mike Trout USA
RF - Shin Soo Choo ROK
SP - Yu Darvish - JPN
   220. Rennie's Tenet Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:29 PM (#4386007)
the two winners of the competition, Rinku and Dinesh, were both trained as javelin throwers.


An unfortunate consequence of which was that they arrived in the States with limited experience at playing catch.
   221. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:58 PM (#4386016)
The seeding games in round 2 are so dumb. Just make the team that went through 2-0 the winner and the team that came through the losers bracket the runner up.
   222. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: March 10, 2013 at 11:59 PM (#4386017)
Can anyone explain why Japan and the winner of CUB and NED will play? I understand it's for seeding purposes, but why is there a game for this? We have mercy rules, and tiebreakers for advancement, presumably to protect pitchers. Why play a meaningless seeding game? Why not declare the team that wins the first two in the second round the top seed from that pool?

edit: gee, thanks WJ
   223. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 11, 2013 at 12:02 AM (#4386019)
I agree with [221] and [222]. I actually had thought they'd done away with the seeding games.
   224. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 11, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4386033)
C - Yadier Molina PR
1B - Joey Votto CAN
2B - Robinson Cano DR
SS - Alexi Ramirez - CUB
3B - Miguel Cabrera VEN
LF - Andruw Jones - NED
CF - Mike Trout USA
RF - Shin Soo Choo ROK
SP - Yu Darvish - JPN


Here's the 2nd team:

C - Carlos Ruis - Panama
1B - Luke Hughes - Australia
2B - Donovan Solano - Colombia
3B - Jeff Baker - Germany
SS - Everth Cabrera - Nicaragua
OF - Alex Liddi - Italy
OF - Che-Hsuan Lin - Taiwan
OF - Antoan Richardson - Bahamas
SP - Justin Masterson - Jamaica


   225. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:20 AM (#4386073)
Go Honkbal Go!
4-4 in the 6th!
   226. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:27 AM (#4386075)
Honkbal has been hit by so many injuries- Balentien tweaked his groin, De Caster taken off on a stretcher, and Bernadina's wrist means he probably can only do defensive replacement duty.

It doesn't look good for the Honkbal 9, but they still have it tied up...
   227. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:28 AM (#4386076)
This Cuban pitcher has been relentless with those sliders. Kinda wonder if we are going to see a Romo fastball at some point.
   228. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:36 AM (#4386080)
Saw that the "5 buck WBC tickets if you show a spring training ticket" deal is valid for Miami too. In other words- shocker- people in Miami aren't buying tickets, or at least not enough of them.

To be fair, I believe they gave Miami the games back when that stadium was new and a bright and shiny future was ahead, instead of the dystopia it has become. In other words: I blame Loria.
   229. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:37 AM (#4386081)
If only the Dutch had any pitching...

Dear Dutch pitchers,

You have the best defensive infield in the WBC.
A few more strikes will be appreciated.

Regards
Honkbal supporters
   230. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:38 AM (#4386082)
DUTCH SPECIAL!
   231. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:38 AM (#4386083)
Ha, Cubans are learning from Torre.
Really, bunting with Gourriel?!

EDIT : And that double play wakes up GamingBoy
   232. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:39 AM (#4386084)
Honkbal escapes!!!
   233. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:41 AM (#4386086)
That was about as bad a managerial decision as I've ever seen.
   234. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:44 AM (#4386087)
Ugh.
   235. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:45 AM (#4386088)
That was just ugly.
   236. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:48 AM (#4386090)
I think there's a good chance that Jose Abreu would be an MVP candidate in major league baseball.
   237. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:50 AM (#4386091)

I think there's a good chance that Jose Abreu would be an MVP candidate in major league baseball.


At the very least he'd be a good bat.
   238. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:53 AM (#4386093)
That at bat by Bogaerts is exhibit A on how an experienced and knowledgable pitcher can make a talented young hitter look bad.
   239. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:54 AM (#4386095)
Bogaerts has not had a good tournament at the plate.
   240. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:55 AM (#4386097)
Yup. What was cool, I thought, is that Gonzalez threw three slightly different sliders.

And yeah, Bogaerts looked like the kid that he is. (This gets at what's so special about Trout and Harper - most 20-year-olds just don't have the baseball skills to face up against real professional pitchers.)

I think the East Asia WBC is a wonderful place to send a prospect. He faces real professional pitchers in competitive game situations. Bogaerts' struggles will show him what he still needs to learn. (He does have only three Ks so far, so he's at least been making contact.)
   241. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:56 AM (#4386098)
Time for a pitching change. Martis has taken them as far as he can.
   242. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:58 AM (#4386099)
That is a beautiful swing on Abreu. I really hope he can find his way to America.
   243. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 08:58 AM (#4386100)
This has to be Martis' last batter.
   244. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:01 AM (#4386103)
Too late. Unless we get another Dutch Special.
   245. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:04 AM (#4386105)
Nope. Bummer.
   246. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:08 AM (#4386107)
If the Dutch come back from this, I will be 100% sure this game is rigged and is actually a movie.
   247. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:10 AM (#4386110)
Two innings left for some magic!
Heh if the Dutch win, Castro will for sure claim it is rigged
   248. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:14 AM (#4386115)
Mesa, time to put those gloves on and yank Gonzalez san
   249. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:15 AM (#4386116)
Oh well...another good showing by Honkbal.
   250. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:16 AM (#4386117)
Gah, they couldn't pinch hit for this Ricardo guy? Its do or die time.
   251. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:21 AM (#4386121)
OH MY GOD!
   252. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:22 AM (#4386122)
Honk!!!!!!
   253. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:24 AM (#4386124)
Andrelton Simmons for MVP!
of the 2013 season!
   254. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:24 AM (#4386125)
Wow. ####### honkbal
   255. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:24 AM (#4386127)
Stunten!!
   256. JJ1986 Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:25 AM (#4386129)
I really hate that I am at work and can't see the end of this game.
   257. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:26 AM (#4386130)
Of course, now the Dutch need to somehow hold back the big bats in the 9th, possible 10th and after.
   258. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:28 AM (#4386131)
I really hate that I am at work and can't see the end of this game.

You better hope your boss is not Steve Balboni's personal trainer
   259. Tschingsch Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:29 AM (#4386132)
Primey for 258
   260. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:29 AM (#4386134)
Uh oh... big bats coming up.
   261. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:32 AM (#4386135)
I fear that Andrelton merely gave a stay of execution.
   262. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:33 AM (#4386136)
Victor Mesa is awfully entertaining.
   263. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:34 AM (#4386137)
Gulp...
   264. JJ1986 Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:38 AM (#4386138)
Gameday said pitching change, and now shows Van Mil as still pitching. Which is it?
   265. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:38 AM (#4386139)
Abreu missed a couple of hittable pitches in that at bat.
   266. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:39 AM (#4386141)
Van Mil escapes!

I feel like the Dutch can't escape much longer though. If they want to win, they need to do it soon.
   267. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:39 AM (#4386142)
Still Van Mil. He made some nasty pitches to Cepeda for the K
   268. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:41 AM (#4386143)
The Dutch got really lucky the last inning.

Now someone photoshop a picture of his wife on baseballs pitched to Andruw
   269. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:42 AM (#4386144)
Norberto Gonzalez is still going. Is this even legal?!
   270. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:42 AM (#4386145)
Norberto Gonzalez is still going. Is this even legal?!


He just hit the pitch limit and is being taken out.
   271. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:44 AM (#4386147)
Time for another Guevara to let down Castro.
   272. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:47 AM (#4386153)
And so it begins..
   273. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4386154)
The ninth inning has not been one for Gourriell's scrapbook.
   274. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:49 AM (#4386156)
Ok, how about a runner for Jones here?
   275. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:51 AM (#4386159)
Ok, how about a runner for Jones here?

Think the Dutch are out of position players or something. They had a chance to pinch hit for their pitiful hitting catcher in the previous inning and didn't.
   276. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:51 AM (#4386160)
I hereby dub Van Mil The Vanimal!
   277. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4386161)
Bogaerts needs to settle down a bit. He may not realize that it's permissible to not swing at a pitch from time to time.
   278. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:54 AM (#4386164)
Oh, Andruw. If only you could still run.
   279. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:55 AM (#4386165)
RUN FAT ANDRUW RUN!
   280. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:55 AM (#4386166)
I am sort of surprised that they didn't put Bernadina in for Jones- Bernadina's wrist contusion isn't major and he's still able to run.
   281. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:55 AM (#4386167)
He also got a terrible read on the ball. Though it probably wouldn't have mattered, given the additional Andruw Jones he's carrying around his avoirdupois.
   282. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:58 AM (#4386168)
They better not pass the Dutch Special on the left hand side
   283. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:59 AM (#4386170)
C'mon Honkballers!
   284. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 09:59 AM (#4386171)
That's a hell of a play by Sanchez.
   285. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM (#4386173)
HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK
   286. Tschingsch Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM (#4386174)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   287. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM (#4386175)
HONKBAL RULES!
PASS THE DUTCHIES!!
#### YOU, COMMIES!!!!!!!
   288. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM (#4386176)
HONKBAL!!!!
   289. bunyon Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:01 AM (#4386177)
HONK BAll!
   290. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:01 AM (#4386178)
HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK!!!
   291. Der-K thinks the Essex Green were a good band. Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:01 AM (#4386179)
Everybody's rooting for the Netherlands in this tournament - right?
   292. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:02 AM (#4386180)
Defect! Defect to Japan, you Commie sons of b!tches!
   293. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:05 AM (#4386182)
So that's twice in two tournaments the Dutch have knocked out a traditional baseball power with an improbable walk-off victory, right? That's pretty good.
   294. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:05 AM (#4386185)
LOL, MLB Network just showed a quote from Victor Mesa from after the last game saying he still didn't think the Dutch were that great a team.
   295. Honkie Kong Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:06 AM (#4386186)
Everybody's rooting for the Netherlands in this tournament - right?

Mostly because of Simmons / Andruw.

But I feel bad for the Cubans too. They kind of dug their own grave though. Usually they have much better pitching.
Had chances in the 8th / 9th..and then that error by Gourriel.
   296. Der-K thinks the Essex Green were a good band. Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM (#4386188)
I would have liked to have watched Abreu face American pitching, otherwise...
   297. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:12 AM (#4386189)
Everybody's rooting for the Netherlands in this tournament - right?

Of course, but mainly because all of the braves curacao connections through the years.
   298. Gamingboy Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:14 AM (#4386190)
Just realized this:

Yurendell De Caster's injury seemed pretty severe. He might not be able to play in the next round, meaning the Dutch could call upon somebody to replace him....

I wonder if Jurickson Profar would be willing to change his mind?
   299. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:23 AM (#4386199)
Nah, they'll get Sidney Ponson.
   300. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:27 AM (#4386204)
Nah, they'll get Sidney Ponson.
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