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Monday, March 04, 2013

WBC Day 4 OMNICHATTER

Is this the end of the Honkbal heroes? Which Fukuoka pool team will avoid likely relegation to the qualification rounds in 2017? Will Taipei send the hometown fans home with pool sweep?

FIND OUT TONIGHT!
11:30 PM- Netherlands vs. Australia
3:00 AM- China vs. Brazil
6:30 AM- Korea vs. Taipei

All games on MLB Network and ESPN Deportes.

Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 01:23 PM | 192 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 01:50 PM (#4380223)
Oh, and the Pool C and D teams are getting together today, and Joey Votto has confirmed he's playing. Jesse Crain has a strained shoulder though so won't.
   2. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 04, 2013 at 02:45 PM (#4380289)
Definitely going to watch the Dutch/Ozzie game, take a brief nap, and then watch RoK/RoC.
   3. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:04 PM (#4380307)
I mentioned this at the end of last thread, but might as well repeat it here: Netherlands advances with a win against Australia no matter what. Once that game is over, we'll know what is at stake in Korea vs. Taipei. Australia is not out of it yet, but they'd need to win by at least 7 runs and have Taipei beat Korea.

In summary, what each team needs to advance:

Chinese Taipei: Win vs. Korea OR
Australia beats Netherlands OR
Loss to Korea by 3 runs or less

Netherlands: Win vs. Australia

Korea: Win vs. Chinese Taipei by 4 runs or more OR
Win vs. Chinese Taipei and Australia beats Netherlands OR
loss to Chinese Taipei and Australia beats Netherlands by 6 runs or fewer

Australia: Win vs. Netherlands by 7 runs or more and Chinese Taipei beats Korea
   4. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:08 PM (#4380311)
Robbie Cordemans apparently is pitching for the Dutch tonight. Probably the Cy Young of the Hoofdklasse, holds basically every pitching record there. Has spent some time in Asia as well.
   5. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:14 PM (#4380315)
Oh, and it's official that R.A. Dickey starts against Mexico. Mauer will DH, presumably so Arencibia can catch Dickey.
   6. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4380327)
This is getting about 13 steps ahead of things, but if form holds and Australia and China wind up at the bottom of their pools, it makes me wonder how they'll organize the qualifying rounds for 2017.

Australia certainly has the facilities to host a qualifier. I don't know anything about Chinese stadiums, but I'm sure they could build something if they wanted to.

But do they really want to have 2 qualifiers in Asia - which probably means sending 3 European teams over there? Make China or Australia come to the Americas or Europe, and play at inconvenient times? (Granted, a lot of the Australian team is playing in the U.S. during the regular season.) Put both of them in an Asian qualifier? (Highly doubtful.)

Like I said, getting way ahead of everything, but it's something to think about.

   7. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:26 PM (#4380329)
Too late to edit my post above. Netherlands wins a tiebreaker of 1-3 teams if their loss is by 3 runs or less Netherlands and Korea are even if both lose and Netherlands loss is by 4 runs. Korea comes out ahead on a tiebreaker of 1-3 teams if Australia wins by 5 or 6 runs.
   8. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:27 PM (#4380330)
When do we get games at a normal time finally?
   9. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:33 PM (#4380334)

Australia certainly has the facilities to host a qualifier. I don't know anything about Chinese stadiums, but I'm sure they could build something if they wanted to.


I know China has some stadiums, although they did demolish the main Olympic baseball stadium in Beijing. However, I'm sure any qualifier in China, no matter where in China it is, would probably require a bunch of logistical things (with the government) that wouldn't be happening somewhere else, so I'd have to guess China would be far less likely than Australia to host a qualifier.


Like you said, we're way ahead, but I'm guessing Australia would probably take roughly the place that Taipei had, in a pool with New Zealand, the Filipinos and Thailand. China is far more likely to be in a situation like South Africa or Canada was in, having to go somewhere else to play.


Assuming that Italy and Spain are the other two, I'd guess it'd be something like this (working on it):

Sydney, Australia (w/ AUS, NZ, Philippines, Thailand)
Some neutral location (w/ China, South Africa, Israel, UK)
Nettuno, Italy (w/ Italy, Germany, France, Czech Republic)
Some South American country like Panama, Colombia or Nicaragua (w/ Spain, Panama, Colombia, Nicaragua)
   10. JJ1986 Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4380337)
I would think they're going to want a qualifier in Panama so that at least some of the American teams don't have to travel the world to play in it.
   11. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:40 PM (#4380348)
I would think they're going to want a qualifier in Panama so that at least some of the American teams don't have to travel the world to play in it.


Yeah, that's why I had the "Some South American Country" on there.
   12. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:50 PM (#4380359)
Apparently the USA rotation looks something like this:

Dickey vs. Mexico
Vogelsong vs. Italy (with Detwiler possibly coming out of the bullpen)
Holland vs. Canada (Lefties vs. Lefties)

with Gio Gonzalez starting game 1 of round 2, should USA advance.

   13. JJ1986 Posted: March 04, 2013 at 03:52 PM (#4380364)
Yeah, that's why I had the "Some South American Country" on there.


Yeah, I didn't see your post, but I think you have it right (unless Spain can avoid finishing last).
   14. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: March 04, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4380414)
In summary, what each team needs to advance:

Chinese Taipei: Win vs. Korea OR
Australia beats Netherlands OR
Loss to Korea by 3 runs or less

Netherlands: Win vs. Australia

Korea: Win vs. Chinese Taipei by 4 runs or more OR
Win vs. Chinese Taipei and Australia beats Netherlands OR
loss to Chinese Taipei and Australia beats Netherlands by 6 runs or fewer


The tiebreak is run differential in common games, right? So far in common games (assuming a NED and KOR win) is:

Taipei +5 (8-3 win over NED)

NED 0 (8-3 loss to Taipei and 5-0 win against KOR)

KOR -5 (5-0 loss to NED).

So a 4 run win by KOR still leaves them in last place (among the 2-1 teams). A 5 run win and everybody is at 0, but maybe the funky run differential divided by innings will come into play.
   15. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 05:04 PM (#4380466)
I'm wondering what the Japanese are thinking about with Korea being in such a tight spot. Would they enjoy having them not make it or bummed that they themselves didn't get the chance to beat them?
   16. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 04, 2013 at 05:29 PM (#4380488)
When do we get games at a normal time finally?


Thursday the Puerto Rico and US pools start playing. There's games on at 3 (eastern time), 6:30 and then at 10 there's a game from the Tokyo pool.
   17. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 05:46 PM (#4380502)
When do we get games at a normal time finally?



Thursday the Puerto Rico and US pools start playing. There's games on at 3 (eastern time), 6:30 and then at 10 there's a game from the Tokyo pool.


And the various teams from those pools will be playing exhibition games on Tuesday and Wednesday, which also will help.
   18. Gamingboy Posted: March 04, 2013 at 11:02 PM (#4380637)
Probable starters:
Robbie Cordemans (Netherlands) vs. Dushan Ruzic (Australia)
Tao Bu (China) vs. Oscar Nakaoshi (Brazil)
Won Jun Chang (Korea) vs. Yao-Hsun Yang (Taipei)

I'm guessing the attendance for those first two games added up won't even equal 10% of the last game, but, hey, that's what is expected with the Asian brackets.
   19. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 12:29 AM (#4380690)
Let's go Curacao, CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP
   20. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4380693)
Ah, seriously, the WBC needs to make the tickets cheaper for the non-home team games in Asia, if only to get more butts in the background.
   21. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 12:36 AM (#4380697)
Or threaten the national baseball organizations that they'll have to play overseas if they can't sell more tickets.
   22. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 12:38 AM (#4380699)
Anybody else read that ERA on Cordemans in the Hoofdklasse. Y'know, 0.22 ERA.

0.22
   23. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 12:55 AM (#4380716)
Honkbal up by 1.
   24. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:01 AM (#4380722)
If an MLB team wanted to sign Cordemans or another Honkballer, would they be eligible to sign as an international free agent or would they have to go through a posting process, like in Japan and Korea?
   25. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:03 AM (#4380723)
Robbie Cordemans (Netherlands) vs. Dushan Ruzic (Australia)


...and Ruzic plays in the Hoofdklasse. Wonder if that would be an advantage since some of the Flying Honkbalers have seen him before.
   26. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:06 AM (#4380725)
Honkbal up by 1.


Crap, I had my DVR rewound a bit without knowing it, I was about to yell at you for what I thought was an unannounced delay in the broadcast.
   27. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:10 AM (#4380729)
MLB (or whoever's responsible for the WBC's ticket sales) should really consider papering the stadiums. It's far too quiet and it's depressing to see literally one guy sitting behind first base.
   28. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:11 AM (#4380730)
Cordesmans is too old to go to MLB anymore, but I'm wondering that too. I don't know the financial side of European baseball that well....
   29. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:17 AM (#4380734)
MLB (or whoever's responsible for the WBC's ticket sales) should really consider papering the stadiums. It's far too quiet and it's depressing to see literally one guy sitting behind first base.


What's sad is that this happens EVERY TIME they do this in Asia. Unless the local team is playing, nobody shows up. You'd think MLB would get the hint by now and either suggest putting some of the non-marquee matchups in smaller stadiums (similar to how two games with Italy are going to be in a spring training stadium instead of Chase Field) or lower the prices of non-marquee games.

I think it has to do with the heterogeneity of most Asian societies, I guess, mixed with the middle-of-the-day timing.
   30. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:23 AM (#4380741)
Not sure how they do the pricing, but if they haven't already, but they should offer free admission to the other games with a ticket stub (You can make the home team games a little more expensive to make up for it, or discount the "ticket strips"). Not sure how much of an incentive free entertainment would be without a rooting interest, but I would think having the possibility of more people in the stands would be worth the possible loss in ticket sales for these games.
   31. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:25 AM (#4380743)
What's sad is that this happens EVERY TIME they do this in Asia. Unless the local team is playing, nobody shows up. You'd think MLB would get the hint by now and either suggest putting some of the non-marquee matchups in smaller stadiums (similar to how two games with Italy are going to be in a spring training stadium instead of Chase Field) or lower the prices of non-marquee games.


It's not just Asia. Canada vs Italy drew 12,411 in Toronto. The final game in that pool (Venezuela vs US) had just over 12,000 watching. Canada vs USA drew over 40,000 but no other game in Toronto drew over 13,000. Skydome looked really empty for most of those games.
   32. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:28 AM (#4380746)
Looking pretty good for the Netherlands to advance. Really puts Korea behind the eight-ball.
   33. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:30 AM (#4380749)
Canada vs USA drew over 40,000 but no other game in Toronto drew over 13,000. Skydome looked really empty for most of those games.


Although on that I'd partially place the blame on the double-elimination format. The only game everybody KNEW was going to go on were the games on day one. Actually, that's one of the problems with double-elimination: you don't know what teams you'll see when you buy the ticket, and, unlike semi-finals or finals, there's a chance you might end up seeing a crappy matchup. Similar stuff happened in the double-elimination round of the '09 WBC.
   34. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:30 AM (#4380750)
It's not just Asia. Canada vs Italy drew 12,411 in Toronto. The final game in that pool (Venezuela vs US) had just over 12,000 watching. Canada vs USA drew over 40,000 but no other game in Toronto drew over 13,000. Skydome looked really empty for most of those games.


On a positive note, the lowest attended WBC game at Marlins Park will be more than the highest attended Marlins game...
   35. puck Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:30 AM (#4380751)
That Dick's Sporting Goods commercial was pretty cool. The shorter Clydesdale reunion ad isn't as good as the original.
   36. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:33 AM (#4380752)

On a positive note, the lowest attended WBC game at Marlins Park will be more than the highest attended Marlins game...


To be fair, the crowd of 88 that saw Cuba-China probably is higher than the highest attended Marlins game...
   37. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:35 AM (#4380755)
This might be the second game that makes it to the mercy rule at this pace.
   38. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:36 AM (#4380757)
The Dutch are not ####### around.
   39. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:38 AM (#4380759)
...Okay, so the Aussies kept this game from getting out of hand super-early..
   40. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:41 AM (#4380761)
Although on that I'd partially place the blame on the double-elimination format. The only game everybody KNEW was going to go on were the games on day one. Actually, that's one of the problems with double-elimination: you don't know what teams you'll see when you buy the ticket, and, unlike semi-finals or finals, there's a chance you might end up seeing a crappy matchup. Similar stuff happened in the double-elimination round of the '09 WBC.


That's true, I'd forgotten about that (and Canada's ignoble defeat at the hands of Italy) until after I'd posted. Still, it's safe to say that early-round WBC games are not a draw without some sort of hook.
   41. morineko Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:43 AM (#4380763)
Yeah, the entire problem with this pool is that apparently Taiwan made it illegal to import velocity into the country. Anyone out there throwing faster than Kuo?
   42. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:45 AM (#4380764)
How did Cordemans never get a shot in MLB/MILB is what I'm wondering. I think the Nationals at one point held his rights (and still might), but he's basically the Dutch Greg Maddux. Did he come up like the second before European Scouting became a thing?
   43. RollingWave Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:50 AM (#4380768)
The TV rating in the last TW vs Netherland game was nearly 10, I'm sure it's going to completely blow that away tonight.... oh god please win.
   44. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:51 AM (#4380769)
The TV rating in the last TW vs Netherland game was nearly 10, I'm sure it's going to completely blow that away tonight.... oh god please win.



Give us an idea of how big a "10" is, percentage wise....
   45. RollingWave Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:54 AM (#4380770)
Yeah, the entire problem with this pool is that apparently Taiwan made it illegal to import velocity into the country. Anyone out there throwing faster than Kuo?


it is being widely reported that the MLB crew is completely messed up in Taiwan in quite a few ways , one of it is the messed up guns. the Miles gun is anywhere between 3 to even 5+ miles slower than the local KM gun or the guns the MLB scouts are bringing. interview with the scouts says they're seeing a lot of 90mph + and some mid 90s pitch from Kuo / Yang / Chen. so essentially, add at least 4 to what you see on screen .


   46. RollingWave Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:58 AM (#4380772)
a really popular show in Taiwan is about 5% to 6% .. so 9-10% is pretty crazy.

   47. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 01:59 AM (#4380773)
Okay, thanks for context. I was seeing that in Japan the ratio is about 23% to 26%... which is actually below the previous WBC.
   48. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:02 AM (#4380775)
Did the announcer just say "when he's not playing pranks he's breaking wind?"
   49. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:03 AM (#4380777)
65 pitches ... that means this is the last batter for Cordemans.
   50. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:03 AM (#4380779)
Did the announcer just say "when he's not playing pranks he's breaking wind?"


I dunno, I missed a few minutes.


A fine performance by the greatest Dutch pitcher to (almost) never leave Holland.
   51. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:04 AM (#4380780)
new pitcher next inning for the honkballers because of pitch count correct?
   52. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:05 AM (#4380781)
That's correct.
   53. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:06 AM (#4380782)
well he had a solid outing. seemed to make quick work of aus.
   54. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:10 AM (#4380784)
They probably won't need the extra runs, but double plays are killing the Honkballers.
   55. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:18 AM (#4380788)
Self (BTF-level) high-five for ######' baseball. (AUS v NED).
   56. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:18 AM (#4380789)
LOOK AT THE ORANGE PEOPLE IN THE BACKGROUND!
   57. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:23 AM (#4380791)
Announcer just said - literally - this.
   58. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:24 AM (#4380792)
Oxspring single-handedly keeping them in this game. He must be the most popular man in Korea.
   59. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:25 AM (#4380793)
To clarify, and he did say it as a reference...

"I was told there'd be no math."
   60. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:27 AM (#4380795)
Announcer just said - literally - this.


So many possible options:

"There's no point to any of this. It's all just a... a random lottery of meaningless tragedy and a series of near escapes. So I take pleasure in the details."

or

"You can't navigate me. I may do mean things, and I may hurt you, and I may run away without your permission, and you may hate me forever, and I know that scares the living #### outta you 'cause you know I'm the only real thing you got."

or

"I'm bursting with fruit flavor."

The first one actually sounds like something the Alan Ashby might say now that he's with the Astros.

Edit: damnit, got clarified before I finished copying and pasting.
   61. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:28 AM (#4380796)
Edit - what - nothing.
   62. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:31 AM (#4380797)

"I'm bursting with fruit flavor."


We need to get either Long or Magrane to say this. For America.
   63. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:33 AM (#4380798)
I figured it would be "Don't Boegarts that can, man..."
   64. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:36 AM (#4380800)
"Daddy, what'd you do during the 2013 WBC?"
"I dotted a guy in the back."
   65. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:37 AM (#4380801)
1 pitch 1 hit batter, and out of the game.
   66. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:39 AM (#4380802)
If memory serves, Boyd got a brief stint in the minors after the '09 WBC. Now he plays in a top amateur league in BC.
   67. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:40 AM (#4380804)
There really should be a word for one-pitch relief appearances. Using 'Yount' as a verb might work except Larry didn't even throw a pitch before he was hooked.
   68. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:40 AM (#4380805)
Tying runner at bat.
   69. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:41 AM (#4380808)
Snelling! He's not in a hospital somewhere!
   70. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:42 AM (#4380809)
And the Aussies have begun to rally.

Edit: And he strikes out as soon as I post that.
   71. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:43 AM (#4380810)
That was a short rally.
   72. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:43 AM (#4380811)
Snelling now can be returned to his protective bubble.
   73. Good cripple hitter Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:44 AM (#4380812)
From lookout landing "This season in the Australian Baseball League, the average OPS was right around .715, with twice as many strikeouts as walks. After not playing for about three years, Snelling hit .273/.492/.398, with 32 walks and 12 strikeouts. The next-best OBP in the league was .423."
   74. morineko Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:46 AM (#4380813)
it is being widely reported that the MLB crew is completely messed up in Taiwan in quite a few ways , one of it is the messed up guns. the Miles gun is anywhere between 3 to even 5+ miles slower than the local KM gun or the guns the MLB scouts are bringing. interview with the scouts says they're seeing a lot of 90mph + and some mid 90s pitch from Kuo / Yang / Chen. so essentially, add at least 4 to what you see on screen .


I haven't even been paying attention to the gun, just noticing the sound and the look of the pitches. The velocity indeed is coming out of the Taiwan pitching staff, with the occasional exciting Korean pitcher.
   75. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:54 AM (#4380816)
[66] According to BB-Ref, he played in the Blue Jays' organization in '09. It also has his Honkbal stats, though for whatever reason bb-ref only has 2007 and '08 Dutch League stats. It has rosters for some other years but only has stats for those two years.
   76. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:55 AM (#4380817)
If the Dutch advance to Tokyo, do the Japanese mistake Loek Van Mil for a Kaiju?
   77. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 02:56 AM (#4380818)
4 outs to go
   78. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:04 AM (#4380819)
Wait, did they just say that it's a win-and-your-in thing for the Dutch now? Did they score enough or something?
   79. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:05 AM (#4380820)
Bogaerts looks bonafide. If the Dutch can develop some pitching over the next 4-8 years, they're gonna have a dark horse chance at the 2017 or 2021 games.
   80. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:10 AM (#4380821)
Bogaerts looks bonafide. If the Dutch can develop some pitching over the next 4-8 years, they're gonna have a dark horse chance at the 2017 or 2021 games.


Hell, they are a dark horse NOW. If Profar and some more of the pitchers had shown up, I'd be willing to outright say they were a legitimate title threat.
   81. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:15 AM (#4380822)
Tying run at the plate!
   82. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:15 AM (#4380823)
rally?
   83. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:16 AM (#4380824)
TYING RUN AT THE PLATE! GO-AHEAD ON DECK! WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO OUR HONKBAL HEROES?
   84. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:19 AM (#4380825)
Well, that would have been a showstopper.
   85. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:19 AM (#4380826)
Phew.
   86. RollingWave Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:19 AM (#4380827)
GAME TYING HOME RUN PLZ

   87. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:20 AM (#4380828)
Yeah, that was very close, I though that it would go out.
   88. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:20 AM (#4380829)
"The groan was audible."


The Korean broadcast team is a bunch of homers. They probably were about to yell "YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAARD" in Korean.
   89. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:21 AM (#4380830)
And the Netherlands joins Japan and Cuba in the second round! It'll be a tough task for Korea; they have to beat Taipei by at least 5 runs to advance.
   90. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:21 AM (#4380831)
honk!
   91. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:21 AM (#4380832)
Going to be do or die for Korea. See y'all in four hours!
   92. RollingWave Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:22 AM (#4380833)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

Arragh, I guess that makes tonight's game all the more intense. Great for enterntainment, bad for your heart / stomach

I hope for a complete and utter smack down on the Koreans of course.

   93. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:22 AM (#4380834)
Congrats!

But "sending the Dutch to round two" means something different around here.
   94. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:22 AM (#4380835)
Honkbal heroes!
   95. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:25 AM (#4380836)
OK, I'm confused here... after all that talk about tiebreakers based on runs scores / allowed, how are the Flying Honkbalers automatically advancing? I can understand it being hard for Korea to beat Taipei by enough runs, but... I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here...
   96. RollingWave Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:26 AM (#4380837)
I'm all confused as well, lets hope that Taiwan wins so we don't need to figure it out ;)
   97. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:28 AM (#4380838)
I think it has to do with the amount of runs the Dutch scored, I believe. Maybe. Tiebreakers hurt my head.

Of course, Korea will have to have a big game at the plate, although they likely would have had to do that no matter what happened with the Dutch, so long as the Dutch won.
   98. Tschingsch Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:29 AM (#4380839)
I agree. Honkbal is like cowbell, you always need more Honkbal.
   99. Gamingboy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:29 AM (#4380840)
I'm going to go to bed for a few hours so that I can wake up by 6:30...
   100. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: March 05, 2013 at 03:30 AM (#4380841)
[95] The tiebreaker is a formula that can be very closely approximated by run differential in games against tied opponents. The Netherlands is even on run differential, meaning they can't have the worst run differential of the three, since if somebody is positive, somebody else would be negative. It is possible that all three teams will be even, if Korea wins by exactly five runs, in which case I'm not sure who the odd team out is.
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