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Saturday, September 08, 2012

WBC Update (9-8-12): South Africa releases it’s roster, and other updates

We have our first roster for the 2012 WBC qualifiers! South Africa’s roster can be found here, and includes eight players currently on affiliated Minor League rosters.

A Sept. 4 article from Baseball America brings some tidbits about other Minor Leaguers who will be active in the qualifiers, particularly of those who are eligible due to ancestry (i.e. parents or grandparents from a country). Michael Roth of the Angels (and formerly of South Carolina) will be allowed to pitch one game for the UK, for example, due to relatively recent English ancestry. Two players of Bahamian descent will also be playing for the British, due to the fact that that the Bahamas, which doesn’t have a team in the WBC, was a British colony at the time their grandparents were born. The Israelis, managed by Brad Ausmus, will be primarily made up of Jewish-American minor leaguers (as well as ex-MLB players like Gabe Kapler and Shawn Green, who will be acting as player-coaches), as well as three or four spots for actual Israelis. The Germans will have Max Kepler and German-American Donald Lutz. Tim Smith and Andrew Albers have confirmed they expect to play for Canada. The French will have some minor leaguers, but will primarily be made up of guys from the French domestic league. The Filipinos have confirmed that some Filipino-Americans will be on their team.

Meanwhile, in Japan, the search for a manager for Samurai Japan has begun, but due to the fact that the NPB is trying to make “National Team Manager” a full-time job, it’s unlikely that any active managers will go through with it. As for Japan’s roster? Well, Aoki is probably going to be in, but Kuroda might be out. Also, one Japanese service had a list of possible players, which Yakyu Baka translated. Yu Darvish is too focused on the current season to comment.

Gamingboy Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:59 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: international, israel, japan, south africa, uk, usa, wbc, world baseball classic

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   1. Greg K Posted: September 08, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4230346)
In a sense the ancestry rules are a bit of a shame. Obviously the UK team will be a lot better than if it were made up of domestic players, but it would be great for domestic development if that was the case.

I am getting really excited for this qualifier! And less and less supremely confident that Canada will have a walk in the park. I'm really curious to see their roster.
   2. Gamingboy Posted: September 08, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4230391)
Apparently Greg, that's the idea France is going with. They will have a few French-descended North Americans to sort of not get completely embarrassed, but they will have a ton of domestic players too, to make sure that they can develop the program. It's interesting to see how each of the European countries treat it. The Netherlands, for example, is almost always made up of people from The Netherlands (remember that Curacao, Aruba and such are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in much the same way that England, Scotland, Wales and North Ireland are all part of the United Kingdom), I can only think of one guy who regularly makes the Dutch squads that is a Ancestry case, and even then I think it was a closer ancestry than a grandparent, it was parent or something like that.
   3. Greg K Posted: September 08, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4230394)
I'm assuming the Czechs are mostly domestic as well?

Speaking of which, apparently Great Britain just beat them in the European Championships today. Grudge re-match at the qualifiers!
   4. Gamingboy Posted: September 08, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4230399)
I'm assuming the Czechs are mostly domestic as well?

Think so. Especially because it's not like there are as many Czech-Americans are there are some of the other countries.
   5. Greg K Posted: September 08, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4230402)
Think so. Especially because it's not like there are as many Czech-Americans are there are some of the other countries.

Hey, my ex-girlfriend has Czech ancestry!

Although she sucks at baseball.
   6. Flynn Posted: September 08, 2012 at 06:14 PM (#4230432)
Leon Boyd of the Netherlands is originally from Canada, but he is a Dutch citizen, so you can't say he has no right to be on the team. His mother is Dutch and he's played there for years.

Bahamians playing for the UK is ridiculous. If somebody has a British grandparent then that makes some sense - it's the same standard used by the International Rugby Board. Rugby is like baseball in that it has about 10 countries worth a damn with a severe drop off after that and it wants to get bigger and somebody with a grandparent is eligible for citizenship in many EU countries and it implies some sort of genuine connection. But Bahamians playing for the UK is just making up the rules. Spend the money to build a couple decent fields in this country instead and stop wasting our time.
   7. Greg K Posted: September 08, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4230437)
Spend the money to build a couple decent fields in this country instead and stop wasting our time.

Ground broke on a pretty big project in Milton Keynes last week. Not sure what it's going to end up looking Hemel Hempstead the current national standard for ballparks?
   8. Nats-Homer-in-DC Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:30 AM (#4230839)
What benefit is it to play the WBC qualifiers every few years? You already play that level of competition in the Euro championships. Better to research some family trees and recruit some New Worlders to get you into the round-robin versus professional Dominicans and Japanese. The exposure will grow the league. As long as you have a handful of domestic players and a operational domestic league, you're showing to your young athletes there's an opportunity to play the sport and possibly represent their country at the world stage.
   9. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:40 AM (#4230841)
Think so. Especially because it's not like there are as many Czech-Americans are there are some of the other countries.

Hey, my ex-girlfriend has Czech ancestry!

Although she sucks at baseball.

I have Czech ancestry. But I suck at baseball.

But I do have a friend who's also of Czech ancestry and she's a pretty softball player.

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