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Tuesday, August 18, 2009

WEEI: Bradford: Ricciardi, Jays weather the storm

Ricciardi took a few minutes to talk about his team’s lot in life, via phone, Monday night:

RB: How do you view your team after all of this dust has cleared?

JP: We like our team, we really do. We like the nucleus we have in place. We think Hill and Lind are going to be stars and are on their way. We think Snider is going to be a very good player. We like our team. We have a very good catcher in Eric Seivert coming. We like our arms on the mound. There’s a lot of really good things happening here. What I think we’ve realized is the reality of the division. We know it, but we’ve come to realize it even more so. This is not a division you can be good in, you have to be great in it to make the playoffs. We’ve been good the last three years. The ownership has been great to us. They’ve allowed us to spend some money over the last three years, and the last three years we were high 80’s in wins. We’re not good enough to win the division.

What we have to do is take a step back and start looking at ways that we can start building to get great. I think with the Cecils and the Romeros and all the young arms we have, along with the Hills and the Linds and the players we have coming we have a really good foundation and nucleus to get there. But I think we have to be smart about the fact that right now we’re not great and you have to be great to win this division.

I think it’s extremely important. You have to realize that we’re a club that had a $20 million cut in payroll this year. So with that savings going into next year, along with the Rolen savings along with the players we acquired for Rolen, we were able to hopefully utilize that money to address some of our needs. I’ll only be able to answer the question over the next five years how that money works in our favor.

next five years?! (adjusts Fargas lid…topples over in shock)

 

Repoz Posted: August 18, 2009 at 03:18 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. rawagman Posted: August 18, 2009 at 05:00 PM (#3296644)
1) Ricciardi is an abject failure. A point further hammered home in his failure to sign three of the Jays' top four picks this year
2) Who in the hell is Eric Seivert?
   2.     Hey Gurl Posted: August 18, 2009 at 05:09 PM (#3296660)
Snider is now hitting .337/.431/.663 in AAA. After missing June with an injury he's hit 14 homers in 40 games and is hitting .448 in August. He's 21. It's been awhile since the Jays had a prospect like this.
   3. Eric P. Posted: August 18, 2009 at 05:26 PM (#3296685)
Eric Seivert has to be J.P. Arencibia (pronounced Erin Seebia). Amateur hour from Bradford butchering that.

I really, really wish I could say I was done with this team. The front office & the ownership don't deserve anyone's fandom. Missing out on 3 of the top 4 picks in the draft right after cutting a ton of payroll at the big league level is inexcusable. I hate this ####### organization.
   4. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 18, 2009 at 05:27 PM (#3296688)
So start following Toronto F.C.
   5. madvillain Posted: August 18, 2009 at 05:40 PM (#3296706)
The Jays just failed to sign 3 of their top 5 picks. After giving away Rios you'd think they would have had some money lying around. This is yet another blow for die hard Jays fans. Might be the death knell for JP, as his coffin just keeps getting more nails.
   6. rawagman Posted: August 18, 2009 at 06:56 PM (#3296845)
Might be the death knell for JP, as his coffin just keeps getting more nails.
Which leads to the age-old question, "Just how many nails are needed to close a coffin?"
It's been awhile since the Jays had a prospect like this.
Snider's actually been a prospect like this since he was drafted three years ago.
I really, really wish I could say I was done with this team. The front office & the ownership don't deserve anyone's fandom. Missing out on 3 of the top 4 picks in the draft right after cutting a ton of payroll at the big league level is inexcusable. I hate this ####### organization.
Seconded. And you didn't even mention the Rogers Centre - maybe the worst ballpark in MLB not already slated for the wrecker's ball.
   7.     Hey Gurl Posted: August 18, 2009 at 06:58 PM (#3296855)
Snider's actually been a prospect like this since he was drafted three years ago.


I am aware of this.

I am not aware of your point.
   8. RJ in TO Posted: August 18, 2009 at 07:04 PM (#3296865)
Seconded. And you didn't even mention the Rogers Centre - maybe the worst ballpark in MLB not already slated for the wrecker's ball.


The Rogers Centre isn't that bad. Since they did the sprucing up a couple seasons ago, it's actually a pretty decent place to watch a game.
   9. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: August 18, 2009 at 07:23 PM (#3296888)
The Rogers Centre isn't that bad.

They need to get rid of the turf.
   10. Paul D(uda) Posted: August 18, 2009 at 07:28 PM (#3296895)
maybe the worst ballpark in MLB not already slated for the wrecker's ball.

Strongly disagree.
   11. drjohnnyfever Posted: August 18, 2009 at 07:33 PM (#3296901)
The Rogers Centre is perfectly fine. It's comfortable, good sightlines, can put on a good show when they want too (eg. indoor firework displays), and the downtown location puts it within walking distance of lots of great restaurants and other attractions.

The problem is just the team. The stadium can be as great as it wants, but it can't compensate for Kevin Millar sucking the soul from fans...
   12. Mike Green Posted: August 18, 2009 at 07:49 PM (#3296921)
Anybody got a Cowboy Down video?
   13. rawagman Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:01 PM (#3296937)
Rogers Centre is soulless. When the roof is clothed, it's almost impossible to watch a game there, it's that stuffy. The lights are poorly aligned, shining into the eyes of fans along the baselines. The dome is also poorly run from the perspective of in-game distractions - there are too many, and they are too loud, swinging the balance strongly in favour of those who are there for "something to do" instead of being there to actually watch the ball game.
Finally, the seating arrangements are poorly planned. Obviously, there are about 15,000 too many. They are packed too closely to one another, so anyone over 5'9'' spends the game trying to figure out how to accommodate his or her knees. The location is fine, but it is not a comfortable place to watch a game.
The sightlines are mostly decent (excepting parts of the outfield seats), but the turf does look sh*tty.

Baseball is more beautiful to watch in an open environment. I recently went on a short baseball trip to see games in Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Detroit. Each of the three stadia put the Rog' to shame. And as bad as the Jays are, they are still better than any of the teams I saw on that trip (Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, Baltimore and Cleveland), but the experience of watching the game live in the other parks was vastly superior.
   14. rawagman Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:02 PM (#3296939)
The Rogers Centre isn't that bad. Since they did the sprucing up a couple seasons ago, it's actually a pretty decent place to watch a game.
I remember hearing about plans for sprucing, but could never find any evidence of it being carried out (except for the players' locker rooms). What was done?
   15. drjohnnyfever Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:06 PM (#3296944)
And as bad as the Jays are, they are still better than any of the teams I saw on that trip (Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, Baltimore and Cleveland), but the experience of watching the game live in the other parks was vastly superior.


The experience of watching your team WIN is vastly superior. All your arguments are moot to me if the team is winning. I used to sit at the old stadium BEHIND the outfield wall, and sometimes all I'd see all game is an outfielder's glove snag a deep drive. It still rocked because the mid-to-late '80s Jays were all sorts of awesome.

I remember hearing about plans for sprucing, but could never find any evidence of it being carried out (except for the players' locker rooms). What was done?


If you didn't notice the sprucing, then I don't know how genuine your bashing can be...
   16. RJ in TO Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:17 PM (#3296955)
I remember hearing about plans for sprucing, but could never find any evidence of it being carried out (except for the players' locker rooms). What was done?


Switching out the old turf for the much better looking FieldTurf, redoing all the walls surrounding the playing field (including adding the additional screens to the outfield wall), replacing the Jumbotron, redoing all the concessions, cleaning up and otherwise tweaking all the concourses. I'm sure there's a bunch of other stuff too, but those are the items that quickly come to mind.

Yeah, it's still not Camden Yards, but it's hardly the abomination you seem to think it is.
   17. drjohnnyfever Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:22 PM (#3296966)
I don't know what they're called, but they also added the "ribbon"(?) LCD screens around the upper deck rings.

Anyone know why they took away the homerun fireworks? Was that a cost move, or something to do with insurance and it sometimes being a closed facility?
   18. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:26 PM (#3296972)
Switching out the old turf for the much better looking FieldTurf

Why not just go to grass? Why the insistence on artificial?
   19. SoSH U at work Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:28 PM (#3296976)
Why not just go to grass? Why the insistence on artificial?


It may have something to do with how much time the roof spends closed.
   20. drjohnnyfever Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:31 PM (#3296982)
It may have something to do with how much time the roof spends closed.


I recall reading something about that. They had conducted studies and determined that maintaining real grass in that environment wasn't viable.
   21. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: August 18, 2009 at 08:39 PM (#3296997)
It may have something to do with how much time the roof spends closed.

Can you elaborate on this?
   22. Greg K Posted: August 18, 2009 at 09:18 PM (#3297072)
I knew we were entering an age of the Jays spending little to no money...but not signing draft picks...

This is going to be a very sad several years isn't it?
   23. snowles Posted: August 18, 2009 at 09:40 PM (#3297106)
There's no grass because the place hosts everything from concerts to monster truck races, conventions and everything in between. The cost to have removable grass in a stadium purchased for being an 'entertainment centre' would be too much. AFAIK, Toronto FC paid a quarter of a million dollars to get real grass at BMO Field for one (1!) game against Real Madrid a couple of weeks ago.

Like all things Blue Jays lately, it's purely business, and far too little baseball.
   24. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: August 18, 2009 at 10:31 PM (#3297148)
My only experience at Rogers Centre was in '05. I liked it well enough though baseball played under a roof is just a lesser experience. It was leaps and bounds better than watching a game in Tampa (the only other closed dome I've seen a game at).
   25. villageidiom Posted: August 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM (#3297170)
Back to Ricciardi... it almost seems as though he has the right plan, about 5 years too late. The Jays need to crater, get a slew of top draft picks, and build up from there. So they didn't sign three of their 2009 top draft picks; they get roughly the same picks as compensation in 2010, plus their usual allotment, plus potentially 3 more picks when Scutaro and Barajas walk. They should be diverting their revenues away from the MLB roster and toward amateur scouting and player development now, playing poorly the rest of the way in 2009, 2010, and 2011, start building the foundation of the next great Jays team, instead of treading water.

They claim they went into this with the strategy of drafting signability issues, and the evidence backs them up. If they'd done this with the plan to sign all of them, they were (a) nuts, and (b) failures. If they went in with that strategy and figured they'd sign some but not all their top picks, they were (a) sane, and (b) successful. Whether the signability strategy will work better than the safe route of past years, I don't know. BA has their organizational talent (prior to the 2009 season) ranked last among AL East teams, so on a relative basis something isn't working.

As I say at the top, Ricciardi is realizing this a little too late. Building up the farm will take a while, and (IMO) he should've done this before now. But it's for the best, eventually.
   26.     Hey Gurl Posted: August 19, 2009 at 12:00 AM (#3297279)
Ha, Snider back :)
   27. Matthew E Posted: August 19, 2009 at 03:24 AM (#3297642)
The other reason why they can't have grass is because that's not just ground underneath the field. There's understructure and stuff, and no irrigation or drainage system or any way to put one in.
   28. rawagman Posted: August 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM (#3297820)
For the World Cup in Japan/South Korea 8(?) years ago, new stadia were constructed with removable grass playing surfaces. IF there is a will for it, it can be done.
   29. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 19, 2009 at 11:55 AM (#3297823)
When the roof is clothed
I heard that they had dressed up the stadium </ducking>

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