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Weekend OMNICHATTER for April 14-15, 2018

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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:42 AM (#5653691)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS WIN TODAY?!
   2. Lassus Posted: April 14, 2018 at 08:35 AM (#5653707)
By losing all their catchers?
   3. BDC Posted: April 14, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5653730)
Bartolo starts for the Rangers Sunday, at Houston … a headline in the Ft. Worth paper this week read INJURY TO FISTER MEANS OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLON and I am not making that up.
   4. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 14, 2018 at 11:02 AM (#5653731)
Why aren't sox and twins at Miller Park this weekend?
   5. Lassus Posted: April 14, 2018 at 11:18 AM (#5653735)
a headline in the Ft. Worth paper this week read INJURY TO FISTER MEANS OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLON and I am not making that up.

This is the closest I could find online, which is.... pretty good

Injuries to Odor, Fister give opening to Profar, Colon
   6. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 14, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5653736)
ostensibly, the SF Chronicle once had a headline:
"Warriors cut Dickey--gap filled by Cox"
   7. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 14, 2018 at 01:10 PM (#5653756)
"Warriors cut Dickey--gap filled by Cox"


Darn, I was hoping that was Chubby Cox, but he only got a cup of coffee with Washington.

I didn't know that Cox was Kobe Bryant's uncle. Chubby's sister married Joe "Jellybean" Bryant.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 01:21 PM (#5653760)
Early 1-0 lead for the Cardinals, as the Reds pitcher can't find the strike zone.
   9. Chip Posted: April 14, 2018 at 01:27 PM (#5653763)
Baltimore catcher Sisco illegally blocks plate without ball, Mookie Betts scores anyway, then has to limp to clubhouse.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 14, 2018 at 01:35 PM (#5653767)
Max Scherzer's first 6 outs against the Rockies all came on strikeouts, but in Scherzerian fashion, he also gave up a 2-run HR in the 1st. Very good slider today, don't think we've seen his last K.
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 01:49 PM (#5653773)
Greg Garcia with a solo homerun giving the Cardinals a 2-0 lead. The Cardinals are sitting Fowler, Carpenter and Wong against this left handed pitcher. (Fowler is a switch hitter) These three happen to be the three starters struggling the most.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:04 PM (#5653779)
Dangit it Ozuna, double play.

Looking at some of Jose Martinez's stats on bb-ref it made me think... bb-ref shouldn't list 'black ink' standards for the current year when it comes to hof standards.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:05 PM (#5653781)
Yadier is tied for second in homeruns in the NL... that of course isn't going to last long, as I would be surprised if Yadier reaches even 20 homeruns for the season.
   14. Jay Seaver Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:08 PM (#5653783)
Oh, right, this is why the Red Sox signed J.D. Martinez.
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:11 PM (#5653784)
One other stat that I'm wondering, is Pete Rose number one all time in outs made? Or has Pujols caught him...by outs made I mean all outs....other words ((ab-hits) + dp + sac + caught stealing - roe + thrown outs + pickoffs and anything else I'm forgetting---not counting fielder choices though)
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:11 PM (#5653785)
Did I just not notice when they passed a law that like 80% of new movies have to be based on a comic book?
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:11 PM (#5653786)
Greg Garcia having a pretty good game today, second homerun of the game for him.
   18. greenback slays lewks Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5653787)
Greg Garcia now has two homers against LHP, both of them today against Brandon Finnegan.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:13 PM (#5653789)
Cardinals NL leading 23rd homerun puts them 2 ahead of Colorado who with Blackmon's homerun today has 21. (note: I don't really care about these things right now, just observing them and looking for anything good)
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5653792)
Pham with his 4th and 5th steals of the season, and Jose Martinez doubles him in from third. Although he should have been out at second
   21. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:28 PM (#5653794)
Ozuna gets his first walk of the season... 65th plate appearance of the season.
   22. Jay Seaver Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:40 PM (#5653798)
Free run and at-bats for the Red Sox!

It's starting to look like the rest of the AL East isn't that good.
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:41 PM (#5653799)
Cubs players breaking out the ski masks today. It's a great day to watch baseball inside on the couch.
   24. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:44 PM (#5653800)
Apparently any pitch that doesn't bounce is a strike today at Wrigley.
   25. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:44 PM (#5653801)
I'm late, but this strike zone has pretty much already been a 2 run swing against the Cubs (yes I know it doesn't work this way but still).

Albies took a pitch that was per the kzone a strike on the inside corner, called ball 3 when should have been strike 3, couple pitches later homers. Bottom inning, Happ takes a pitch in almost the same spot (both hitting right against a lhp), but per the kzone clearly inside, should have been ball 4, next pitch strikes out; next batter almora homers.

It's shitty weather, so I'd understand a zone where all borderline ones are strikes, I just want some damn consistency.
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5653803)
Why should it possibly be OK for the weather to affect the strike zone?
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5653804)
Greg Garcia with his third hit of the game, not bad for the number 8 hitter...hr/hr/dbl.
   28. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5653805)
I said I'd understand, not that's it's ok.
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5653806)
I really don't get the whole "pitchers don't like to wear sleeves even when it's 20 degrees out" thing.
   30. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:51 PM (#5653807)
One other stat that I'm wondering, is Pete Rose number one all time in outs made? Or has Pujols caught him...by outs made I mean all outs....other words ((ab-hits) + dp + sac + caught stealing - roe + thrown outs + pickoffs and anything else I'm forgetting---not counting fielder choices though)


Well, not sure why you wouldn't count FC, and they are in there anyway. A FC is an AB. or do you mean out as a baserunner on someone else's FC?

Anyway, by BBREF, which counts most but not all of your categories, he's not close, 10,328 to 7319. Pujols isn't even the active leader, Beltre is.
   31. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:51 PM (#5653808)
He's just not giving quintana the ones on the edge.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:51 PM (#5653809)
Not sure who is having the better day... Pham who is 3 for 3 with a walk, double and two stolen bases or Garcia who is 3 for 3 with two homeruns and a double.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5653810)
Well, not sure why you wouldn't count FC, and they are in there anyway. A FC is an AB. or do you mean out as a baserunner on someone else's FC?


The latter. As you pointed out, FC is in at bats already.
   34. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:52 PM (#5653811)
If the Cubs hadn't won the World Series, how hated would Heyward be at this point?
   35. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:53 PM (#5653813)
If the Cubs hadn't won the World Series, how hated would Heyward be at this point?
We would have killed and eaten him around mid-July of last year.
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5653814)
I didn't realize that Pujols was that far behind, maybe my brain was thinking about adding in another 4 years of play which would be roughly 2000-2500 more outs.
   37. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5653815)
I don't care for this Albies fellow.
   38. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5653816)
Oh, he's still hated. It'll be worse if the Cubs lose out on Harper, or don't go for him because of heywards contract and roster spot.

Teams are hitting the Cubs hard and getting the seeing eye ones too.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5653817)
Although Mikolas is also having a good game too. Looking to be a solid addition to the team.
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:57 PM (#5653818)
Sigh. Like yesterday, this one feels like it's over already.
   41. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:58 PM (#5653820)
I didn't realize that Pujols was that far behind, maybe my brain was thinking about adding in another 4 years of play which would be roughly 2000-2500 more outs.


2000 on the high end. His career high in a season is 499. he made 480 last year. 2000 more will put him in second place, still 1000 behind Rose.
   42. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5653821)
Bloop bloop rocket bloop bloop
   43. Jay Seaver Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:08 PM (#5653825)
Like I said two years ago, Jackie Bradley Jr. belongs in right field, with another Superman catch.
   44. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:12 PM (#5653826)
If the Cubs hadn't won the World Series


It's funny how this phrase can still offset pretty much all of the bad things that have happened to the team since then.

It'd be nice if they weren't playing such mediocre ball, though, for sure.
   45. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:15 PM (#5653828)
The Cubs went to the NLCS last year and are of the favorites to win it all this year. How much really has happened?
   46. Sleepy's not going to blame himself Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:18 PM (#5653830)
Phillip Ervin took a coveted 8 pitch Christmas walk, strike-ball-strike-ball-foul-ball-foul-ball. It was very pretty on the gameday screen.
   47. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:24 PM (#5653832)
The Cubs went to the NLCS last year and are of the favorites to win it all this year. How much really has happened?


I guess I just meant in the micro sense. There were several points during the regular season last year where they were really frustrating to watch. I know that's every team at some point, but other Cub fans can corroborate that it felt like the team never really got into a sustained groove.
   48. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:25 PM (#5653833)
Cardinals aren't comfortable with Holland closing right now. Coming into a 6-1 game in the 8th inning.
   49. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:25 PM (#5653834)
other Cub fans can corroborate that it felt like the team never really got into a sustained groove.
Seconded. And so far the 2018 team is the same.
   50. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:29 PM (#5653837)
Now it's overer.
   51. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5653838)
That the Dodgers and Nats are also playing mediocre is helping to keep me sane this year.

On the "other" end of the scale ... leaving aside the issue of whether it's "tanking" or not, there are a set of teams that didn't seem that interested in improving themselves this offseason. Let's put them into a few categories ....

I think we were all agreed they'd stink: Det, CWS, KCR, Marlins, Reds, Padres

Some folks saw rays of hope: TB, A's, Phi, Atl

Business as usual or worse? O's, Pirates

Starting today, the first group are 20-53 ... that's sub-300 baseball to start the season

Group 2 are 22-27, largely thanks to the Braves

Group 3 are 14-11, thanks to the Pirates

Add it all up and it's 56-91 -- a 381 win percentage or a 62-100 pace. Of course that's due to the super tankers.

Back to the Cubs, our "problem" is that we started with a heavy does of these teams and we're about to go 3-7 against them. The Pirates walloped us twice, the Braves are walloping us for the second time.
   52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5653839)
And overerer.
   53. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5653841)
Is Markakis going to be able to get a contract next year? He'll be 35 and hasn't put up more than 1.8 WAR since 2012. Seems like exactly the kind of player teams are no longer willing to sign.
   54. Jay Seaver Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5653842)
Blake Swihart with his second hit of the game, doing decent in part-time work at the start of the season, and I'm wondering if he's making himself an appealing trade target for teams like the Mets that could use a catcher despite not playing much/at all behind the plate.
   55. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5653845)
On the one hand, I can't keep Charlie Culberson and Cheslor Cuthbert straight. On the other hand, this problem doesn't arise often.
   56. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:56 PM (#5653847)
Man, I'm glad I'm not at Wrigley today. Miserable weather, miserable game and miserable pace. An hour and 40 minutes and they're not through the top of the 4th.
   57. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 03:59 PM (#5653848)
Huh. The Orioles have a shortstop name of Engelb Vierma.
   58. Jay Seaver Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:04 PM (#5653850)
Walden going for a save with an eight-run lead against the Orioles.
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:05 PM (#5653851)
After todays game, Greg Garcia should get another start tomorrow, most Cardinal fans would hope for it to be in replace of Wong, but I'll go with him spelling DeJong a game.
   60. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5653852)
#53 ... let's see how he does this year. Granderson had 1.5 WAR last year and found a job at 37 (and doing well). Chris Young was a mediocre part-time for ages 31-33 and got a job (for just $2 M). Rajai Davis, 37, signed for $2 M. Matt Adams is still employed for $4 M. He's off to a fine start but the DBacks are playing Owings in RF and might have been interested in somebody like Markakis instead. He'll be in competition this offseason with Hunter Pence but given how poorly Pence is playing, that might be more of a potential landing spot for Markakis 2019 than competition.

If he's a healthy, 1-1.5 WAR player and willing to play for $2-4 M, he can probably still find a job.
   61. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:14 PM (#5653855)
Do you guys get the local Toyota commercials with Javy Baez? He might be even worse as an actor than Mike Trout.
   62. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5653857)
Since the Cubs aren't providing a pleasant distraction, might as well waste some time meandering through b-r. Let's see:

The Giants OF: Pence 28 OPS+, A Jackson 66, McCutchen 56

Some of the offseason's big names:

Longoria 23 OPS+
Stanton 110
Ozuna 103
Yelich 170 but injured
Gordon 119
Hosmer 133
Moose 154
JDM 106
Cain 113
Bruce 130

Darvish 67 ERA+
Arrieta 91 (just 1 start)
Odorizzi 184 (much worse peripherals)
Cole 573 (and nearly the peripherals to match)
Wade Davis 137
Lynn 83
Cobb hasn't pitched

Who'd I forget?
   63. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:23 PM (#5653859)
Cobb pitched today and was terrible.
   64. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 14, 2018 at 04:28 PM (#5653863)
Todd Frazier has a .962 OPS and a 170 OPS+ but his numbers went up a lot after a big game yesterday, he was at .708 before hitting a couple homers last night. One of the better deals of the offseason.
   65. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:20 PM (#5653876)
Since the Cubs aren't providing a pleasant distraction, might as well waste some time meandering through b-r. Let's see:


Offensive stats are updated to include yesterday, but pitching stats are not.

But that is what I've been doing today, just looking at some of the early seasons performance.
   66. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:24 PM (#5653880)
Heyward taking one for the team.
   67. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:36 PM (#5653884)
Gordon 119
Also injured.
   68. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:37 PM (#5653886)
At least the Cubs players haven't given up on this game, unlike some of their fans. :P
   69. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:37 PM (#5653887)
Touché. But it’s still over. It’s always been over.
   70. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:38 PM (#5653888)
Zobrist’s wife manages to turn ‘jets’ into a 17-syllable word.
   71. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:39 PM (#5653889)
Who'd I forget?
   63. What did Billy Ripk


Jon Jay with a 98 ops+ in KC this season, but -2 rField. (of course that has to be rounding, but still not good)
   72. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:42 PM (#5653892)
I guess it’s not over.
   73. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:44 PM (#5653895)
That was some quality bullpen management there.
   74. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:44 PM (#5653897)
Well well well
   75. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:45 PM (#5653898)
sadly, I must be a Cubs good luck charm.... started watching them on gameday when the score was 10-3....
   76. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:48 PM (#5653901)
Jon Jay

I said "big names". :-) Nice player, came through for the Cubs last year. And what he's done so far is solid 4th OF performance, not his fault KC is such a mess he's not a 4th OF.
   77. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:49 PM (#5653902)
Hmmm. mlbtv seems hung up. What's Heyward done?
   78. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:50 PM (#5653903)
Heyward walked.
   79. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:50 PM (#5653904)
Full count to schwarber
   80. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5653905)
Heyward walked.
   81. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5653908)
Schwarber another bases loaded walk
   82. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5653909)
As did Schwarber. Cubs lead,
   83. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5653910)
Cubs take the lead.... if I was a Cubs fan that would make me happy.
   84. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:53 PM (#5653912)
Lastella bases loaded walk
   85. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:53 PM (#5653913)
Woo-hoo, connected again finally ... 12-10

And thanks for the updates.
   86. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:55 PM (#5653914)
Oh, FFS. Insurance runs are now sponsored.
   87. McCoy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:57 PM (#5653918)
Good Lord, what an inning for the Cubs
   88. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:57 PM (#5653919)
I'll take it
   89. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:58 PM (#5653920)
Well, that was something.
   90. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 05:58 PM (#5653921)
It ain't over until it's overerererer.
   91. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 06:01 PM (#5653922)
9 runs on 3 hits? I'm not sure I have ever seen that.
   92. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 14, 2018 at 06:01 PM (#5653923)
In little league, for sure.
   93. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 06:03 PM (#5653924)
9 runs on 3 hits? I'm not sure I have ever seen that.


Cubs have to outdo the Cardinals, the Cardinals yesterday got 7 runs off of 3 hits...two of which were solo homeruns to start the inning and then got 5 runs off of one hit.
   94. McCoy Posted: April 14, 2018 at 06:06 PM (#5653925)
I don't think I've ever seen a game played in such atrocious weather
   95. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 06:08 PM (#5653926)
I'll take it but between that gift in Milwaukee and this insanity, I'm worried the Cubs have already used up their miracles for this season.
   96. Walt Davis Posted: April 14, 2018 at 06:09 PM (#5653927)
I was surprised they didn't call it after 7 with the rain picking up.
   97. Lassus Posted: April 14, 2018 at 07:26 PM (#5653941)
I dunno, I think this might be the game we finally lose.
   98. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 14, 2018 at 07:31 PM (#5653943)
It looks like Jakob Junis is the next great pitcher to be on a garbage team. He was fantastic on Monday, and he's off to a flying start against the Angels.
   99. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 14, 2018 at 07:32 PM (#5653944)
Honestly, I don't have that much confidence in Harvey. His stuff is really diminished.
   100. Lassus Posted: April 14, 2018 at 07:33 PM (#5653945)
I wrote that before this mess started.
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