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Weekend OMNICHATTER for August 11-12, 2018

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Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 11, 2018 at 02:50 PM | 132 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2018 at 10:54 PM (#5725525)
John Lackey Jr.'s inability to throw strikes looms pretty large now.
   102. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2018 at 10:59 PM (#5725526)
What an odd way they've put men on in this inning.
   103. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:04 PM (#5725527)
HOLY ####
   104. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:04 PM (#5725528)
Hahahahaha

Wow. Bote. #### yeah
   105. Brian C Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:04 PM (#5725529)
Now that's a ####### awesome moment.
   106. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:05 PM (#5725530)
I'm following on MLB Gameday and ESPN Radio. There's quite the delay in ESPN Radio, so when I saw "In play, Run(s)," I quickly minimized the window so I could be surprised and hear the actual play.
   107. Brian C Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:05 PM (#5725531)
When's the last time someone hit a walk-off grand slam to win 4-3? That's like the purest walk-off win possible.
   108. Voodoo Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:06 PM (#5725532)
I can't believe it.
   109. Voodoo Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:06 PM (#5725533)
With two outs AND two strikes.
   110. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:08 PM (#5725535)
And again, the Cubs had loaded the bases on an infield hit and two HBP. Crazy.
   111. salvomania Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5725536)
I'm the last thing from being a Cubs' fan, but that was a heck of a moment.

Almost TOO ridiculous: down three runs in the bottom of the 9th, two outs, bases loaded, two strikes, and a freaking pinch-hit grand slam.

If I'm the Nats, though, I'm still steamed by the awful called strike three on Reynolds to end the top of the 9th on a pitch that should have loaded the bases for the Nationals.
   112. Brian C Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5725537)
With two outs AND two strikes.

Yes! And obviously a rookie pinch-hitter, too. Other than clinching a playoff series, it checks every box a walk-off can check.
   113. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5725538)
Well that was fun.
   114. Brian C Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:16 PM (#5725541)
The MLB Network lady just called him "David Boat".
   115. Voodoo Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:16 PM (#5725542)
Yes! And obviously a rookie pinch-hitter, too. Other than clinching a playoff series, it checks every box a walk-off can check.


Yes! So basically that has to be an all time record for WPA in a game. Ever. Maybe it's been tied, but I don't know think it can be topped.
   116. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:20 PM (#5725545)
Yes! So basically that has to be an all time record for WPA in a game. Ever. Maybe it's been tied, but I don't know think it can be topped.

Single plate appearance, yes (except for possible adjustments for park and league context). Single game... not so much.

(Still awesome, though.)
   117. Howie Menckel Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:24 PM (#5725547)
man, I love Wrigley Field.

started going there in mid-1980s, have sat in the bleachers for dozens of games (in spite of never having lived there), and often the Cubs have been terrible.

I was always struck how - compared to NY - the fans broke it down to, "hey, we might win TODAY" - - so they followed the whole game.

I know it's easy in 2018 to think, "well sure, now the whole damn crowd sticks around to the last strike because the curse is over." but that's always been how they roll, in my experience.

some may disagree, but I loved seeing old man Bill Murray there in the bottom of the 9th down 3-0, keeping the faith.

same for a round of "GO CUBS GO" once the game ends in a W.

I had never heard that song until about 5 years ago. the Cubs won (they were 4-0 against the hapless Astros over 2 years of my visits) - and what the heck was this song? hypnotic, to this visitor. the song's complicated history (google it) - I don't care. and anything by Steve "A Dying Cubs Dan's Last Request" Goodman is gold.
   118. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:33 PM (#5725551)
The MLB Network lady just called him "David Boat".

About time somebody got it right!

I assume full responsibility for this win/loss.

I'll be posting my GoFundMe/Patreon shortly.
   119. Brian C Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:39 PM (#5725553)
I assume full responsibility for this win/loss.

I almost feel bad for you guys ... Cubs have given you some real nut-kick losses over the last few years.
   120. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:48 PM (#5725555)
Yes! So basically that has to be an all time record for WPA in a game. Ever. Maybe it's been tied, but I don't know think it can be topped.

Today's the anniversary of the all-time known WPA one-game performance by a hitter: Art Shamansky. He hit three homers - two in extra innings. And his team lost. Go figure.
   121. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:58 PM (#5725556)
David Bote: first ultimate grand slam (walkoff Grand Slam hit when down 3 runs) to erase 3-0 deficit since Sammy Byrd of the Reds 5/23/1936 vs Pirates.

Bote's was with 2 out though. Byrd's was with none out.
#Cubs
   122. Howie Menckel Posted: August 12, 2018 at 11:59 PM (#5725557)
beaten by ONE MINUTE by Moses

I'll collect some cred by noting that Byrd was known as "Babe Ruth's Legs" and that he left baseball to play on the PGA Tour.

only man ever to play in a World Series and The Masters - where he posted 3rd and 4th place finishes.

won 6 times, lost the 1945 PGA Championship (won today by Brooks Koepka) to the legendary Byron Nelson in a match play final.

his slam was the 2nd-to-last HR of his MLB career, and came in his final MLB season

HOFers who played in his slam game:
Arky Vaughan
Paul Waner
Lloyd Waner
Kiki Cuyler
Ernie Lombardi

pitcher Cy Blanton replaced Bill Swift with bags loaded and none out, and did the deed
   123. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:01 AM (#5725559)
David Bote just hit the Golden Homer: a walk-off grand slam, down three, and with his team down to his last strike.

For all the years we have pitch data, there are just two other Golden Homers: Chris Hoiles on 5/17/1996 and Alan Trammell on 6/21/1988.
   124. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:10 AM (#5725561)
Jarrett Seidler @jaseidler
I know the outside belief was that he was often being interviewed only to fulfill the Selig Rule a la Art Shell, but it’s worth noting that Dave Martinez went through a comically high number of managerial hiring processes before actually getting a job. Maybe there was a real reason?
   125. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:11 AM (#5725562)
I almost feel bad for you guys ... Cubs have given you some real nut-kick losses over the last few years.

Joe wanted to Rochambeau for it, but Deivi kept volunteering to go last.
   126. Baldrick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:41 AM (#5725568)
Single plate appearance, yes (except for possible adjustments for park and league context). Single game... not so much.

That Shamsky game never fails to impress me.

1.5 WPA in a single game...a game which he didn't even ENTER until the 8th inning...and which his team ended up LOSING!
   127. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 07:38 AM (#5725572)
I don't pay much attention to any NL game, and so I just saw that grand slam on the highlight website a few minutes ago. Jesus. #######. Christ. What a moment.

For all the years we have pitch data, there are just two other Golden Homers: Chris Hoiles on 5/17/1996 and Alan Trammell on 6/21/1988.

By that you have to mean down to the last strike, because there've been several times before pitch data was recorded where the team was down 3 runs with 2 outs. Phil Bradley of the Mariners on April 13, 1985 was one of them, but I'm sure there were others.

Fun fact about that Bradley game: Every plate appearance in the bottom of the 9th was one of TTO: 3 walks, 2 strikeouts, and a walkoff grand slam.
   128. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 13, 2018 at 08:21 AM (#5725573)
I had never heard the term "Golden Homer" before. I think y'all are just makin up sh|t now.

Golden Sombrero, yes.
   129. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 13, 2018 at 09:41 AM (#5725593)
I had never heard the term "Golden Homer" before. I think y'all are just makin up sh|t now.

Golden Sombrero, yes.


I've heard the term golden pitch before. That is a pitch which could wind up winning or losing the WS. It last happened in 2016. It has to be game 7, bottom of the 9th or later, 2 out*, home team losing, and enough runners on base that a HR would win the game.

*not sure about that part. Could be 1 out if a DP is in order.
   130. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 13, 2018 at 10:55 AM (#5725650)
Does the winning team take Golden Showers???
   131. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 13, 2018 at 11:56 AM (#5725709)
I've heard the term golden pitch before. That is a pitch which could wind up winning or losing the WS. It last happened in 2016. It has to be game 7, bottom of the 9th or later, 2 out*, home team losing, and enough runners on base that a HR would win the game.

What about a pitch with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th in the 7th game of the World Series, with the visiting team ahead by 1-0, and with runners on second and third, that results in a screaming line drive? At that point it's not either a golden pitch or a golden hit, but that split second between contact and ????? has got to be the greatest golden moment of all time, with every fan in the country suspended between hope and dread.

Game 7, 1962 World Series
   132. Voodoo Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5725733)
At that point it's not either a golden pitch or a golden hit, but that split second between contact and ????? has got to be the greatest golden moment of all time, with every fan in the country suspended between hope and dread.


Agreed that this is the #1 golden moment. Somewhat surprisingly there are four at-bats that had higher championship probability leverage than this one, but none of the ones above it were game enders like this one was.
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