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Saturday, July 28, 2018

Weekend OMNICHATTER for July 28-29, 2018

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Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:46 AM | 80 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:47 AM (#5717280)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5717319)

"Shea, meet your new little brother Cooper!"

David O'Brien
‏Verified account @DOBrienATL

Chipper’s wife, Taylor, is due to have their second baby at any moment and is here with him in Cooperstown for Sunday’s HOF induction. Chipper said hopefully the baby won’t come till they get home to Atlanta, but if he’s born here in Cooperstown that wouldn’t be bad either.
10:07 AM - 28 Jul 2018
   3. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 01:43 PM (#5717356)
Christ on a cracker, Wade, that was pathetic.
   4. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 28, 2018 at 02:37 PM (#5717374)
Great, now Severino's had four straight starts where he's looked like the Severino of early 2016. I don't think Happ's going to be able to make up for that if Sevvy doesn't straighten himself out, and quickly.
   5. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 02:38 PM (#5717375)
Sevy seems to have hit a wall in his last 4 starts, Gator's '78 is safe.

Ugh ... 4-0 down to Kansas ####### City.

Thanks, again, Wade.

[edit] 6-0 ... and the natives are growing restless.

What a shitshow.
   6. BDC Posted: July 28, 2018 at 02:46 PM (#5717379)
With three singles last night, Adrian Beltre moves into a tie for 49th in career singles (1,994) with … Bill Buckner. That doesn't sound very good. Anyway, Buckner wasn't a great hitter, but he got a boatload of singles.

The career leaderboard for singles has some unusual features. Omar Vizquel had more singles than Wade Boggs or Stan Musial. Doc Cramer had more singles than Roberto Clemente, Richie Ashburn, or George Brett. Buckner had more than Willie Mays or Rogers Hornsby.
   7. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 02:53 PM (#5717382)
Stanton goes BOOM!
   8. BDC Posted: July 28, 2018 at 02:53 PM (#5717383)
More singles trivia, though this one is basically unguessable. Since 1893, the player with 3,000 PAs and the highest percentage of his career base hits being singles is Spike Shannon, a deadball NL outfielder. 90.1% of Shannon's hits (610/677) were singles.
   9. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 28, 2018 at 03:02 PM (#5717386)
More singles trivia, though this one is basically unguessable. Since 1893, the player with 3,000 PAs and the highest percentage of his career base hits being singles is Spike Shannon, a deadball NL outfielder. 90.1% of Shannon's hits (610/677) were singles.


if you asked one to guess, I would have guessed Roy Thomas, who has a 89.6% single percentage, in far more PA. 1377 singles, 100 doubles, 53 triples, and 7 HR. Like most players, he added power as he got older. through age 30, he had 866 singles, 42 doubles, 24 triples, and 5 HR. 92.4%.
   10. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 03:30 PM (#5717401)
GLEYBER! YES!!!

GLEYBER! NO!!!
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 28, 2018 at 03:49 PM (#5717410)
And just when it looked like there was a chance of a comeback, Robertson serves up a 3 run bomb.
   12. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 28, 2018 at 03:53 PM (#5717411)
This game has been an extra special kind of frustrating.
   13. mathesond Posted: July 28, 2018 at 03:57 PM (#5717417)
John Axford is getting the start for the Jays tonight, it seems.
   14. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5717429)
Not watching the Cubs/Cardinals: Were the first two hits balls that a good third baseman would've had?
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:23 PM (#5717430)
Cardinal announcers "I'm liking Molina batting second, he's arguably your best hitter with a .297 average".

Molina is a slow dp machine, the absolute last guy you want batting behind your average speed , best on base guy. Of course Molina is having the second best offensive year for a Cardinal, so he's not a liability there, just not really the guy you want in that spot if Pham, Martinez and Ozuna are hitting the way they are capable of.
   16. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:23 PM (#5717431)
Not watching the Cubs/Cardinals: Were the first two hits balls that a good third baseman would've had?


No. (actually can't say anything about the bunt, but the hit by Molina wouldn't have been fielded by any third baseman without super powers---Barry Allen or Ralph Dibny might have gotten it, but that is about it)
   17. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:26 PM (#5717433)
No. (actually can't say anything about the bunt, but the hit by Molina wouldn't have been fielded by any third baseman without super powers---Barry Allen or Ralph Dibny might have gotten it, but that is about it)


gotcha. I only asked because Gameday said it was deflected off Happ's glove.
   18. Voodoo Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:27 PM (#5717434)
####### Quintana.
   19. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:27 PM (#5717435)
This game could get out of hand quickly.
   20. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:27 PM (#5717436)
####### Quintana.


Someone needs to pick up the walks slack now that Chatwood has been exiled to the pen.
   21. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5717438)
gotcha. I only asked because Gameday said it was deflected off Happ's glove.


I need to see a replay then, because it didn't look like that to me, but it was just a shot similar to the double he hit yesterday, just pulled a little bit more...


Molina just got beaned by an Ozuna foul ball. (well if you are one of those who define bean as being hit in the head, that isn't an accurate comment, he got hit in the back)
   22. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:31 PM (#5717439)
Do they have anyone up in the pen yet? This is looking like he might not be able to get an out today.
   23. Voodoo Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5717443)
Well ####
   24. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5717444)
Welp, probably not coming back from that. Even if the Cubs can put up some runs, no way they hold Cards to five.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5717445)
Ozuna can hit homeruns apparently.
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:33 PM (#5717446)
Welp, probably not coming back from that. Even if the Cubs can put up some runs, no way they hold Cards to five.


Not sure what the forecast is, but there are at least some drops of rain on the field.
   27. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:34 PM (#5717447)
Ironically enough, Len Kasper spent some time earlier today defending Jose Quintana quite a bit. He's probably unfairly marred, but honestly, I'm kinda lukewarm of Quintana.
   28. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:34 PM (#5717449)
Thirty-four pitches to get one out. Well done.
   29. Perry Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5717450)
gotcha. I only asked because Gameday said it was deflected off Happ's glove.


It did go off his glove, but it was also hit very hard.

Cards with 5 runs (including an Ozuna GS) before making an out.
   30. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:36 PM (#5717452)
What's the record for most pitching appearances by position players for a team in one season? I have to think the Cubs are gonna add to their total before the day is over.
   31. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:42 PM (#5717455)
That reminded me of that Randy Wells start where the Cardinals put up five before the Cubs even batted.

Cubs rotation is a total mess.
   32. Voodoo Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:44 PM (#5717458)
I'm pretty lukewarm to Quintana too. I expressed some dissatisfaction with his Cubs tenure recently over in Gonfalon and it was pointed out that maybe I was being too hard in him (119 ERA+, outdueled Scherzer in NLDS) but I expected more from him (so did ZIPS fwiw).
   33. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:47 PM (#5717461)
I'm pretty lukewarm to Quintana too. I expressed some dissatisfaction with his Cubs tenure recently over in Gonfalon and it was pointed out that maybe I was being too hard in him (119 ERA+, outdueled Scherzer in NLDS) but I expected more from him (so did ZIPS fwiw).


Len pointed out that his ERA with the Cubs is the same as it was with the White Sox (115). I think it's just a mix of what they gave up for him and what his potential was that's made him seem a bit of a disappointment.
   34. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:55 PM (#5717466)
what a throw by Heyward.
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 04:59 PM (#5717468)
Quintana with the first hit of the game, and almost got caught in the rare 9-3 groundout.
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 05:32 PM (#5717477)
bad hop on that one, but with a bit of luck, a third baseman would have fielded it, not sure if I would say a "good" third baseman, more like a lucky thirdbaseman.
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: July 28, 2018 at 05:37 PM (#5717480)
Matt Holliday signed a minor league deal with the Rockies.
   38. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 08:03 PM (#5717514)

Michael Silverman
‏Verified account @MikeSilvermanBB
2h2 hours ago

The Yankees are reportedly trying to trade for starter Chris Archer of the Rays.
In 21 career starts against the Red Sox, Archer has a 5.27 ERA, 1.631 WHIP and 2-12 record.
In 7 starts at Fenway, Archer has a 7.29 ERA, 1.920 WHIP and .301/.401/.441 against.
   39. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 28, 2018 at 08:20 PM (#5717515)
HomeRobinson !!
   40. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 08:42 PM (#5717517)
I'd hate to be Sabathia's life insurance company.

man, does he battle. but he was sweating out there like a priest in a brothel - and we're not even into August yet, and this is not one of the top 10 hottest days of the year. sweat dripping off his cap in Niagara Falls fashion.

1st time thru lineup this season AVG is .215
second time is .215
third time is .367

he leaves with 2 out in the 5th and bags loaded

interesting replay:
he had bags loaded with 1 out, 2-1 count, then threw 2 balls
the first one clearly missed (you know it's clear when even the NYY announcers admit it) but was called a strike
then a terrible swing for a K on a ball way out of the strike zone

so 3-1 on next batter, an exhausted CC throws that same outside pitch - and this time he doesn't get the charity call. he was so frustrated

again, the guy gives you every ounce that he has. great, great pitcher
   41. JJ1986 Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5717520)
Does the Rays weird short reliever-long reliever instead of a starter thing always involve leaving the second guy in to take a beating?
   42. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5717521)
speaking of great pitchers, deGrom has allowed 1 run in 6 IP and has a double and a single while batting

he trails 1-0 because - well, that is the curse the gods have handed him
   43. Howie Menckel Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:42 PM (#5717544)
this is so insane that you sort of root for it to continue because....


Matt Ehalt
‏Verified account @MattEhalt
3m3 minutes ago

This seems like a joke, but it's not:

Jacob deGrom's last 12 starts:
1-6, 1.87 ERA. 87 IP, 65 H, 18 ER, 95 K.
   44. rconn23 Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:51 PM (#5717553)
Stick a fork in this Yankees team.
   45. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: July 28, 2018 at 09:59 PM (#5717558)
Jacob deGrom's last 12 starts:
1-6, 1.87 ERA. 87 IP, 65 H, 18 ER, 95 K.


Heck, his last 17 starts:

3-6, 120.2 IP, 22 ER, 1.64 era. team record of 5-13
   46. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 28, 2018 at 10:19 PM (#5717564)
Yankees take the lead 5-4 in 8th, and even more importantly, the ROYALS ARE OUT OF MOUND VISITS, and will be helpless for the remainder of the game.
   47. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:13 AM (#5717580)
The Rockies shut down the A's, allowing them just one run for the second night in a row in a 4-1 win. Nolan Arenado homered for the second night in a row.
   48. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:18 AM (#5717581)
Has any team run out of mound visits before that? I don’t recall ever seeing it even come close,
   49. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:27 AM (#5717583)
Yankees take the lead 5-4 in 8th, and even more importantly, the ROYALS ARE OUT OF MOUND VISITS, and will be helpless for the remainder of the game.


Since the Yankees never had the lead at any point in this game, I don't have a lot of confidence in your ability to properly tally the Royals' mound visits.
   50. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 01:37 AM (#5717587)
Since the Yankees never had the lead at any point in this game, I don't have a lot of confidence in your ability to properly tally the Royals' mound visits.

You do realize that the Yankees played a day-night doubleheader Saturday? Check the second game box score.
   51. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2018 at 11:31 AM (#5717638)
My mistake! I noticed that this morning. Yahoo Sports should have listed the games next to each other.
   52. Chip Posted: July 29, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5717668)
This might be one of the greatest catches ever made by a centerfielder: JBJ is incredible.
   53. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: July 29, 2018 at 03:42 PM (#5717686)
Ugh, the Royals are turning The Hammer into a nail ...
   54. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 04:07 PM (#5717690)
Braves Sean Newcombe no-hitting Dodgers thru 8; at 117 pitches and apparently being allowed to pitch the 9th.
   55. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5717692)
Chris Taylor breaks it up with a 9th inning, 2-out single with a 2-2 count, on pitch #134.
   56. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 04:25 PM (#5717694)
This might be one of the greatest catches ever made by a centerfielder: JBJ is incredible.


Need to post the statcast version, they gave it 4 stars, and have it at 42% likely to be caught.
   57. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 04:27 PM (#5717695)
I'm surprised there isn't a hof induction thread going on.
   58. manchestermets Posted: July 29, 2018 at 04:30 PM (#5717697)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!


By giving up seven runs before recording two outs is the early favourite. Wow.
   59. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 29, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5717698)
Not even half an inning in, and the game's already over. The warm bodies the Angels have had to use to plug in for those rotation injuries just aren't worth a god damned thing.
   60. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:07 PM (#5717703)
Yankees radio announcer Suzyn Waldman, age 71 and with the club since 2005, mentioned BBTF mascot Jack Morris on today's broadcast.

"Someone asked me before the game if I thought he was a Hall of Famer," Waldman rambled, "and I said, 'Of course.' Then he started rattling off some stats and I said, 'Well, obviously you never saw him pitch. He pitched to the score - he wanted to win.'"

Don't let anyone ever tell you that given half a chance, a woman can't be as proudly and publicly ignorant as a man.

btw, this is the third sentence of Suzyn's Wiki bio: "She is the worst broadcaster in the history of sports."

   61. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:13 PM (#5717706)
Yankees radio announcer Suzyn Waldman, age 71 and with the club since 2005, mentioned BBTF mascot Jack Morris on today's broadcast.

"Someone asked me before the game if I thought he was a Hall of Famer," Waldman rambled, "and I said, 'Of course.' Then he started rattling off some stats and I said, 'Well, obviously you never saw him pitch. He pitched to the score - he wanted to win.'"


I agree with your post for the most part, but on this day, I just don't think there is any reason to belittle Jack Morris and the hof. I'll give them the weekend off, and return to the regular scheduling complaining about the standards on Monday. I think Morris is a better pick than Jim Rice, and Morris isn't even the worst player going in this weekend. I would rather focus on Trammell, Chipper, Thome, and any comments being made about Whitaker by Morris and Trammell. I'll save the nitpicks on Hoffman, Morris and Vlad for a later day.
   62. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:21 PM (#5717708)
That 1982 Tigers team was something else. Lance Parrish, Trammell, Whitaker, Chet Lemon, Kirk Gibson, Jack Morris and Dan Petry all at their peaks(Petry really only had a five year peak, but got cy votes in two of them and made the all star team in another)
   63. BDC Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:28 PM (#5717710)
After looking futile in losing four straight to the A’s at home, the Rangers go to Houston and win three straight. You cannot figure this game out.
   64. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:34 PM (#5717713)
You cannot figure this game out.

Part of the reason why it's so great.
   65. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:38 PM (#5717715)
This might be one of the greatest catches ever made by a centerfielder: JBJ is incredible.

Need to post the statcast version, they gave it 4 stars, and have it at 42% likely to be caught.

I say we hold off the superlatives about any catch until Ray has chimed in, since he's the only one who's always 100% objective.
   66. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:42 PM (#5717720)
Ichiro could have made JBJ make the catch if he wanted to
   67. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2018 at 05:46 PM (#5717723)
The Rockies complete the sweep over the A's, from the much tougher American League, with a 3-2 win. With the Dodgers' near no-hit loss, the Rox (and the D-Backs too, although really, who cares) are just a game out of first.
   68. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:01 PM (#5717740)
I say we hold off the superlatives about any catch until Ray has chimed in, since he's the only one who's always 100% objective.


When was the last time Ray chimed in on anything?
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:01 PM (#5717741)
I hate the fact that I'm a fan of a popular team.... Way too many Sunday night games.... And I don't have ESPN. I'm on vacation, last day and going back to work tomorrow, I would have loved to have seen all three games of this sweep of the Cubs...but noooooo.... ESPN decided to make me miss the game, they could have had a LAD and Atl game featuring two contenders, instead of a first place team facing off against a fourth place team.... or an Oak/Col game featuring two teams on the cusp of the playoffs, instead they chose the uber popular Cardinals, and the much hated Cubs as their Sunday game..... a week after screwing them by making them play the only Thursday after all star game.
   70. Perry Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:26 PM (#5717748)
Don't look now (and nobody is, cuz Rockies) but the Rockies are 19-5 in their last 24 games, just finished a 4-1 homestand vs. Houston and Oakland drawing 43,000/game, and are 1 game out of first. Good times.
   71. SoSH U at work Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:39 PM (#5717752)
When was the last time Ray chimed in on anything?


Baseball related? About three weeks ago he predicted that Bryce Harper would be up near a 150 OPS+ by season's end (he was at 122 at the time). Since then, Harper's raw OPS has dropped from .846 to .842.

   72. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:40 PM (#5717753)
Don't look now (and nobody is, cuz Rockies) but the Rockies are 19-5 in their last 24 games, just finished a 4-1 homestand vs. Houston and Oakland drawing 43,000/game, and are 1 game out of first. Good times.


I just looked, and in the AL there is a race for the second wild card, with Oakland 1.5 back of Seattle for the last spot, but that is pretty much the only race left in the AL. I mean sure New York is still in the race for the division barely, and Seattle and Oakland are in the race for the division, but ultimately it's pretty clear that the AL post season will be Bos/Cle/Hou/NYY and one of Sea/Oak.

In the NL it's a much different story. The east still has Was struggling to compete with ATL/Phi, the Central is a dogfight between Mil/Chc and the west is a dogfight between LAD/Ari/Col... with even the Pirates, Cardinals, Giants and Nats still barely in the race for the wildcard. (all of those nl teams are closer to the wild card than the Angels who are 8 back of the wild card)
   73. Chip Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:41 PM (#5717754)
Need to post the statcast version, they gave it 4 stars, and have it at 42% likely to be caught.


Statcast has failed badly on that, perhaps because, from what I’ve read, it takes no account of where the wall is, or other park configuration issues.
   74. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 29, 2018 at 06:51 PM (#5717757)
Ichiro could have made JBJ make the catch if he wanted to


Pfft, you know who was available to make that catch? Yep, you guessed it, Alfonso Soriano.
   75. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 07:17 PM (#5717769)

Statcast has failed badly on that, perhaps because, from what I’ve read, it takes no account of where the wall is, or other park configuration issues.


Isn't it more arguable that statcast is rightfully predicting that with a better jump on the ball and not that timing step he did towards the end(ala Jim Edmonds) he would have made that play a bit more cleanly?

I mean the original post said it was one of the greatest catches ever by a centerfielder, and I'm thinking that was a typical Thursday for a peak Pillar.
   76. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2018 at 09:06 PM (#5717791)
ESPN noting that Enrique Hernandez the other day became the first position player in the history of MLB to allow a walkoff HR.

also, he went 0 for 7 - topped as a losing pitcher only by Cy Young's 0 for 8 in 1905.

I figured Dave Roberts' postseason bedshits would have made him smarter - but not so much.

at some point, I can imagine MLB teams having an "attitude manager" who keeps the ship from rocking, but also someone who actually grasps how to manage a pitching staff.
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: July 29, 2018 at 09:38 PM (#5717799)
looking like a pitchers duel in St Louis as it's 1-2 in the first inning.
   78. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: July 29, 2018 at 09:58 PM (#5717801)
Cubs have looked like total #### in the second half.
   79. puck Posted: July 29, 2018 at 10:15 PM (#5717806)
More Rockies, that 19-5 run came against some pretty good teams. All were .500+ at the time of the series: Dodgers, Giants, Mariners, Diamondbacks, Mariners, Diamondbacks, Astros, A's.

The Rockies have also been carrying 3 catchers through this run, which matches the # of outfielders currently on the active roster due to a recent roster move (OF Noel Cuevas down, INF Ryan McMahon up.)

Rockies have still been outscored for the season, 500-503.
   80. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2018 at 10:59 PM (#5717810)
good ESPN stat on the Cardinals leading MLB in errors.

last time was 1958, with INFs Don Blasingame, Eddie Kasko, Ken Boyer, and Gene Freese combining for 71 errors. but also, Stan Musial with 13 and youngsters Ducky Schofield with 9 and Curt Flood with 8.

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Ƒunhouse
‏ @BackAftaThis
6h6 hours ago

The #RedSox are an insane 26-5 in day games, which tells me that they don't have a lot of big drinkers on the team.

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