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101. Perry Posted: September 09, 2018 at 12:18 AM (#5741168)

Wow, the end of the Braves-Dbacks game was nuts.

102. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2018 at 12:47 AM (#5741173)

Nationals come back in 7th to take a 6-5 lead, and then after the top of the 8th, the rain begins again. Tarp on, and it looks like it will rain until Sunday night, Probably some unhappy Cubs when this gets called about 3:00 AM.

From a practical standpoint, if they want to finish the last 1-1/2 innings there looks like a window of no rain for about 30-60 minutes after this stuff moves out shortly. But I suspect the bureaucratic inertia will prevent any quick decision and turnaround, so...

Sunday looks to be a washout until later in the evening. If the Cubs want to get tomorrow's game in they will be tired on Monday for sure.

103. Meatwad Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:11 AM (#5741176)

This weekend has been a #### show for them. Should never have started that game on friday

104. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:22 AM (#5741177)

Man it has rained pretty much everywhere east of the Mississippi this weekend, save maybe the extreme SE.

105. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:31 AM (#5741179)

Looks like they're about to resume in DC, but they better not dawdle. Under a flood watch not that far away.

106. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:33 AM (#5741180)

As if blessed by the Baseball Gods, the line of clouds moving NE towards D.C. is parting to avoid Nationals Park, so they should finish it now assuming they don't go into extra innings.

107. Meatwad Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:43 AM (#5741181)

Well todays #### show is finally over. Wonder if they even get a game in tomorrow. I am in favor of it being called and not played this year.

108. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:51 AM (#5741182)

The Nats only played 161 games during one of their also-ran years, I think 2006. I doubt the Cubs can spare a game at this point.

At least the Nationals had a nice Ring of Honor ceremony for the Werewerth to ease the pain.

Also, let it be known that SOMEBODY finally took the Nationals Park bullpen cart tonight: Sean Doolittle.

109. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:21 AM (#5741196)

lol was that Moses who was saying yesterday Justin Wilson is good? #### outta here.

So he's not perfect and Bryce Harper got him. Means the last 3 months didn't happen. Got it.

At least the Nationals had a nice Ring of Honor ceremony for the Werewerth to ease the pain.

Which they didn't between the games and delayed the start of the 2nd one by a half hour. Good work.

110. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:22 PM (#5741238)

Cubs @ Nationals not starting "on time" today, and I'm doubtful it ever will. I'm about 10 miles south of the ballpark, and forecast isn't good, > 50% chance of rain until 8:00 PM. How late is too late?

111. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5741239)

Cubs @ Nationals not starting "on time" today, and I'm doubtful it ever will. I'm about 10 miles south of the ballpark, and forecast isn't good, > 50% chance of rain until 8:00 PM. How late is too late?

With the way the Cubs have looked this week? Five minutes ago.

112. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:45 PM (#5741240)

So he's not perfect and Bryce Harper got him. Means the last 3 months didn't happen. Got it.

113. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 01:53 PM (#5741243)

HOW WILL THE CARDINALS REGRESS TODAY?

(SUNDAY EDITION)

114. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:13 PM (#5741247)

HOW WILL THE CARDINALS REGRESS TODAY?

By being no-hit apparently.

115. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:14 PM (#5741248)

we are being no-hit by a pitcher with a 3-10 record.

116. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:23 PM (#5741250)

we are being no-hit by a pitcher with a 3-10 record.

Tim McCarver is really pushing that point. "again, Fulmer has entered the game with a 3-10 record...someone is getting to him this year."

And of course McLaughlin is talking about the ton of strikeouts this series...."Cardinals struck out 12 times Friday, 14 times yesterday..." and then realizes that this game is a bit different, so mutters under his breath "and four times this game." (note paraphrasing a bit.... the numbers might be mixed up a bit)

117. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:27 PM (#5741251)

Still facing the minimum with the caught stealing.

118. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:39 PM (#5741256)

you gotta be kidding me ... a rally squirrel?

119. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:39 PM (#5741257)

Rally squirrel sighting....

120. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:46 PM (#5741262)

... and we score.

wild.

and tigers RF drops an easy fly ball, run scores. 2-0.

this is nuts.

121. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5741264)

Rally squirrel gives us a run.... and Ozuna still has a shot at player of the week...although I have no idea who is his competition for the week.

That was just a bad play by the Tigers rightfielder.

122. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5741265)

quick look at the last seven days(offensive players only) and it looks like NL potw candidates are Harper, Ozuna, Story as the leading candidates....

123. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5741266)

jeez, death by a thousand cuts for the tigers ... another infield hit, another run for the cards.

124. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5741267)

a 5 run 7th...after being no hit for the first 6 innings.

125. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5741268)

da-yum, those rally squirrels are something else. martinez with a seeing eye hit, another run scores.

126. cardsfanboy

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:57 PM (#5741269)

Harrison Bader put in to pinch run for Martinez.... my girlfriend is half watching the game, and just started laughing at the announcement of Bader pinch running. (one of those laughs that says "now you are in trouble" type of sounds)

127. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 02:58 PM (#5741270)

... and the unfortunate matt adams bookends the inning with another out.

128. Sunday silence Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5741271)

129. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:14 PM (#5741273)

ATTN:

Chase De Jong is no-hitting a Royals team whose 789 hitters are Brian Goodwin, Rosell Herrera and Cam Gallagher.

130. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:16 PM (#5741274)

128- If you really want your blood to boil, watch it again and keep your eye on the runner at first (I think it was Cain). Bryant had a trivially simple 5-4 double play if he’d noticed Cain wasn’t running.

131. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5741277)

Ah ha. Jinx worked! No mo no no.

132. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:26 PM (#5741279)

munoz with a really dumb slide into first.

133. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:37 PM (#5741282)

what the hell -- why is hicks shaking off signs? now hes walked someone he should have been going after.

134. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:45 PM (#5741284)

wow, carp pissed about that punchout. i don't blame him one bit.

he got right in the ump's face, and the ump just took it. i wonder if he regretted the call, carp is known for having a good eye.

135. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:47 PM (#5741285)

welp, carpenter and shildt kept barking at him, and now they are ejected.

whatever.

the jose oquendo as manager of the cardinals era begins.

136. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5741287)

detroit down to their last strike.

i'm just noticing -- lots of cardinal fans in town.

137. phredbird

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 03:52 PM (#5741288)

CARDS WIN11!!11!11!1

GOOD AFTERNOON AND GOOD LUCK.

138. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:10 PM (#5741297)

Hey I wanted to ask, last week when the cubs lost that game in the 9th inn. bases loaded fielders choice situation. What was the reason Bryant tried to complete the double play instead of going to home with the ball?

Did they ever get a reason for that?

He said he didn't think he had a throw home and would do it the same way again. No one really challenged him on it, I think he was just rusty and not up to game speed after not playing much lately.

Still nothing happening in DC.

139. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:20 PM (#5741300)

Bruce Levine:

Cubs and Washington only mutual off day this Thursday .That would have the Cubs playing a night game at home flying to DC . Playing a Day game and hustling back for a day game on Friday at Wrigley. That scenario would have the Cubs with unheard of 30 straight scheduled games.

This has to be just him speculating. They'll just have to have it as a potential makeup after last day of season if necessary. No other option. At least it's a night game tomorrow.

140. rconn23 Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:21 PM (#5741303)

Aaron Boone's lineup choices continue to amaze. Gleyber Torres, who may be the best healthy hitter on the team, bats 7th, two spots behind Neil Walker.

141. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5741308)

Yeah, Boone-y has underwhelmed me so far

142. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5741309)

Ugh, seems like bad CC has shown up again

143. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:37 PM (#5741311)

And there it is: The #Cubs-#Nationals game has been postponed to Thursday at 3:05 p.m. Chicago time.

#### that.

144. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:38 PM (#5741312)

Game just postponed at 3:36... which brings us to our stat of the day:

Elapsed time of combined rain delays this weekend: 10 hours, 56 minutes.

Elapsed time of three combined games: 10 hours, 0 minutes

145. Meatwad Posted: September 09, 2018 at 04:42 PM (#5741314)

Thats pretty shitty that the cubs have to travel to dc on thursday.

146. BDC

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 05:02 PM (#5741326)

Adrian Beltre, with his 3,153rd base hit, passes Paul Waner for 17th all-time; he's now one behind George Brett.

147. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: September 09, 2018 at 05:31 PM (#5741338)

JFC the Yankees have just been PITIFUL with the bases loaded this year.

148. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 09, 2018 at 05:39 PM (#5741342)

I wonder if they'd hold off on rescheduling the Cubs-Nats game if the Cubs hadn't had such an abysmal week.

149. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2018 at 05:58 PM (#5741347)

The #Cubs-#Nationals game has been postponed to Thursday at 3:05 p.m. Chicago time.

Good news, they should be able to get the game in just ahead of Hurricane Florence hitting town!

150. stanmvp48 Posted: September 09, 2018 at 06:07 PM (#5741350)

Gerardo Parra with another unforced out on the bases

151. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 06:23 PM (#5741357)

Coors Field special going on. Great play by Musgrave to get the tag down and now Blackmon homers, 8-6 in the 8th.

152. TomH Posted: September 09, 2018 at 06:25 PM (#5741358)

Yankees stats, with bases loaded, 2018
batting avg .238 OPS .665

Yankee opponents also just as bad tho
batting avg .211 OPS .670

153. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: September 09, 2018 at 06:43 PM (#5741362)

Is that from BBREF?

Can it be broken down by month?

And what's league average?

154. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 07:22 PM (#5741368)

.266/.307/.464 is the league average.

If you want to break it down go to Baseball Musings then go to the Day by Day Database.

155. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 07:25 PM (#5741369)

It was a pointless review but I like Boone having the umps look at the Haniger catch. May as well check it out. Better that than Girardi not challenging the HBP in the LDS last year.

That’s the area where the stat geeks can influence the game on field. Help managers understand the win expectancy of plays on reviews rather than just “do we have a good look at it.”

156. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 09, 2018 at 08:17 PM (#5741379)

What I have noticed with this Red Sox/Astros series is 2 things. The bottom of the Red Sox order is what it is and struggles against good pitching and the Red Sox pen(and SP outside of Price and Sale), like the bottom of the lineup, is pretty average and gets beat up by good hitters.

Though the 'Stros have won less games so far this year, I still consider them the favourites to represent the AL in the world series.

157. For the Turnstiles (andeux) Posted: September 09, 2018 at 08:21 PM (#5741380)

Has there ever been a battery with as many last names as Bibens-Dirkx-Kiner-Falefa?

158. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5741382)

Though the 'Stros have won less games so far this year, I still consider them the favourites to represent the AL in the world series.

Still time for injuries or slumps to change things a bit, but any team getting past the Astros will have done something special, IMHO. They're very good.

159. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 09, 2018 at 08:35 PM (#5741384)

And Porcello gets that "let's give up a home run sometime in my 6 1/3 inning thing" take care of early. I was really worried he wasn't going to give up a long ball today, but there it is.

C'mon Rick, just give us that 6 1/3 IP, 3 runs thing and I'll be happy with that.

160. TomH Posted: September 09, 2018 at 08:54 PM (#5741385)

Hugh 156, do you have any data to back up your claim that multiple Sox struggle against good pitching and good hitting?

Their W-L record against the best opponents they have played is 19-16, FYI (CLE OAK HOU ATL NYY).

I agree that overall, Hou and Bos are about evenly talented, with Hou a slight edge unless Sale is healthy.

161. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:14 PM (#5741386)

For my money the AL playoffs are pretty wide open. I think the four top teams are all pretty even especially if the Yankees get Judge back in some reasonable form. If Sale is healthy then I feel really good about the Sox as a Sox fan with Sale/Price up top but there isn’t any team in there that would surprise me by getting to the World Series. So I guess bet on Oakland is the message.

One thing about the AL playoffs is that Boston, Houston and Cleveland have bullpen concerns. I think it’s highly likely that we get a few truly memorable games this October with those teams involved.

162. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:15 PM (#5741387)

One more thing about the Sox against the good teams. They have the second best record in the AL against teams over .500. It’s not the perfect measure and as Tom notes they are good against the top of the top list.

163. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:17 PM (#5741389)

Yep, I tweeted about it being ridiculous to DH Eduardo Nunez earlier. 2-2 so far.

164. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:25 PM (#5741390)

OK, I've asked about this a couple times before, but no one has answered - for those of you who are watching the Red Sox game now, what's with the "whoo!" yell that people are doing in the stands? It's hard to describe in words, but it starts out really high-pitched and then descends as it trails off. I'd never heard it before this year, but now I hear it at maybe half of the games I watch. Any idea where it came from and why it's become such a thing so quickly?

165. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:29 PM (#5741394)

The Sox play it after a strikeout; I think it's this kid yodeling in Wal-Mart, which was kind of viral back around the start of the season, although I didn't spot the particular bit they use in that video.

166. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:35 PM (#5741396)

Wow. So many questions come to mind with that video. Mainly:

1) What the hell kind of parent makes their kid do that in the middle of a Wal-Mart? And
2) What the hell kind of kid is willing to do that in the middle of a Wal-Mart?

But no, that's not it. The sound I'm talking about is kind of like an amped-up and elongated version of the "pyoo" sound that people make when they're imitating the laser blasters from Star Wars or something.

167. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:36 PM (#5741397)

J.D. Martinez remains good.

168. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:39 PM (#5741401)

That strikeout thing is the most annoying ####### thing. I hate it.

169. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:41 PM (#5741402)

BIlly I don’t know what you’re describing. I watch most games on TV without sound and I haven’t noticed it (other than the strikeout nonsense) when I’ve gone to games.

What you seem to be describing is something that doesn’t happen anymore but did when I was a kid. Anytime a ball would be fouled onto the screen the crowd woudl go woooooOOOOO as it rolled down getting louder throughout. I miss that.

170. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:42 PM (#5741403)

Yeah, I would not mind losing that at all.

171. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:48 PM (#5741406)

I hear it a lot at sparsely attended games. It's like one person does it and then someone else, and then there's a volley of them, kind of call-and-response. Probably just another manifestation of Americans' seemingly constant need to draw attention to themselves.

172. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 09:54 PM (#5741409)

I've never heard that "woo" thing, but apparently there are a lot of weird section-specific things. Like, my seats are in section 43, and friends whose are just a couple sections away have never heard of the kazoo guy.

173. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:23 PM (#5741411)

sorry, got caught up in a meeting. Who had Porcello sh*tting the bed in the 6th?

174. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:28 PM (#5741413)

Who had Porcello sh*tting the bed in the 6th?

Everybody, every game?

175. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:32 PM (#5741414)

I haven't followed the Red Sox closely all year - how did a team this good get so desperate that "Let's sign Brandon Phillips and have him play third base" seemed like a good and/or necessary idea?

176. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:33 PM (#5741416)

I think he's safe, but wow, that's close.

177. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:34 PM (#5741417)

Ah, some stats from the RAB post-game write up regarding the Yankees and bases-loaded situations:

Coming into this game, the Yankees were hitting .238/.281/.385 (78 OPS+) as a team with the bases loaded this season. They rank 21st in AVG, 23rd in OBP, 21st in SLG, and 23rd in OPS+ with the bases loaded. How is a team this good so bad with the sacks full?

178. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:34 PM (#5741418)

Looks safe to me too.

179. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:35 PM (#5741419)

Seems safe, but you need the super-slo-mo, frame-by-frame replay to tell. Being a teeny, tiny tagging target helped Altuve there.

180. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:36 PM (#5741421)

What??

181. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:37 PM (#5741422)

Clearly safe, but way too close to overturn.

EDIT: And I should have added that I'm rooting for the Astros, so this wasn't a laundry driven opinion.

182. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:37 PM (#5741423)

175 - Phillips was signed and stashed in Pawtucket as part of a Dustin Pedroia backup plan earlier this year, but him being at 3rd tonight is screwy, probably Cora trying to get him in more after a great finish on Thursday and Devers apparently being in the doghouse. Not sure why Holt isn't playing more.

183. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:37 PM (#5741424)

Maybe they need to embed sensors in home plate so you can tell when the baserunner touches it.

184. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:38 PM (#5741425)

Clearly safe, but way too close to overturn.

That doesn't make any sense. Why even have replay then, if not to overturn the clearly wrong calls? Doesn't matter how close it was.

185. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:40 PM (#5741426)

175 - Phillips was signed and stashed in Pawtucket as part of a Dustin Pedroia backup plan earlier this year, but him being at 3rd tonight is screwy, probably Cora trying to get him in more after a great finish on Thursday and Devers apparently being in the doghouse. Not sure why Holt isn't playing more.

Thanks. Yeah, I looked up for the replay of Altuve's bunt and thought "That looks like Brandon Phillips, but why the hell would he be playing third?"

186. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:41 PM (#5741427)

Clearly safe, but way too close to overturn.

Clearly safe, and should have been overturned I think.

187. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:42 PM (#5741428)

For my money the AL playoffs are pretty wide open. I think the four top teams are all pretty even especially if the Yankees get Judge back in some reasonable form.

Only if Severino recovers his early season form and Tanaka and Happ keep up what they've done recently. It'd also be nice to get Sanchez and Bird over .200 and not let Walker and Gardner slip below it.

188. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:44 PM (#5741429)

Well, I suppose having a knuckleballer for one team and a sidearmer for the other at least keeps the parade of anonymous relievers somewhat interesting.

189. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:46 PM (#5741430)

Clearly safe, but way too close to overturn.

Why even have replay then

Wouldn't bother me a bit if they got rid of it, especially when a runner gets called out when he lifts his toe off the base for about 1/10th of a second. My gripe with umpires is personalized strike zones, not bang-bang plays on the bases.

, if not to overturn the clearly wrong calls? Doesn't matter how close it was.

YMMV, but I'd think the standard for overturning a call should be a bit tighter than "He missed the tag by an inch, and you can only tell that from one camera angle".

190. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:49 PM (#5741432)

191. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 10:52 PM (#5741433)

People just did the whoo! thing. Anyone hear it?

192. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:00 PM (#5741436)

It'd also be nice to get Sanchez and Bird over .200

I think the Bird has flown for this year, Voit with another 2 hits tonight.

Not saying it's going to last, but it's clear he's going to get the vast majority of playing time until he proves otherwise ...

193. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:09 PM (#5741437)

Cora, what the hell didn't you bunt???

194. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:10 PM (#5741438)

Cora, what the hell didn't you bunt???

Because it's 2018?

195. Jay Seaver Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:21 PM (#5741440)

Is JBJ not available? Why do you pinch-hit Vazquez for Leon when Swihart is already in the game?

EDIT - Duh, that would lose them the DH.

196. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:23 PM (#5741442)

Great relief performance with a huge assist from that home plate ump.

197. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:24 PM (#5741443)

Squanderville, we have arrived!

198. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:31 PM (#5741445)

OK, so really you just don't want to have replay. I agree with you about when the runner loses contact with the base for a split second. But you yourself said he was clearly safe - it wasn't that Leon missed the tag by an inch (although if a call like that was clear, it should be overturned as well), it was that Altuve's hand was clearly on the plate before the tag. Not much before, sure, but clear is clear. The standard for upholding a call shouldn't be "Well, it clearly wasn't the right call, but it was almost the right call!"

That's a perfectly logical argument, but then what's the point of the way the announcers keep saying that the call on the field will be upheld unless there's clear** evidence to overturn it? The only time there's no clear evidence is when none of the cameramen were stationed in the right position. As long as the camera catches the critical angle, there's always going to be a clearly right decision.

** or whatever word you always hear from the announcers when the umps go to their headsets

199. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:39 PM (#5741447)

The only time there's no clear evidence is when none of the cameramen were stationed in the right position. As long as the camera catches the critical angle, there's always going to be a clearly right decision.

Eh, I don't think that's really true - for example, I've seen a bunch of replays of bang-bang plays at first where it wasn't really clear whether the ball was in the glove before the foot was on the bag.

200. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 09, 2018 at 11:43 PM (#5741449)

Should you really PR for Martinez here with two outs and Moreland up? Not at all sure that's a good idea.

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