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Tuesday, April 17, 2012

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Washington Nationals
WAR Winning Percentage: .647; Current Winning Percentage: .700; WAR Wins: 6; Current Wins: 7

Everyone expected the Nationals to be good in 2012, but probably not No.-3-in-the-Power-Rankings-good. Washington leads the majors with a team ERA of 1.99 and a FIP of 2.29, but it is hard to imagine this impressive display lasting much longer. Even when the rotation begins performing at their true talent levels, though, a starting group featuring Stephen Strasburg, Jordan Zimmerman, Gio Gonzalez and Edwin Jackson is no pushover, and the NL East will have to take notice.

Interesting rankings:
#10 Mets
#11 Royals
#13 Astros
#18 Angels
#20 Braves

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   1. Joey B. is being stalked by a (Gonfa) loon Posted: April 17, 2012 at 11:59 PM (#4109354)
Best of all, we're doing it without our best hitter and our closer. Our schedule has admittedly been pretty soft so far, but we're not pushovers any longer. Rizzo deserves some credit; he has built himself an excellent pitching staff.
   2. Dr. Vaux Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:07 AM (#4109358)
I was at tonight's game. The crowd really booed Lidge when the first two guys got on. The next strike he threw got one of the best sarcastic cheers I've witnessed in person.
   3. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4109362)
he has built himself an excellent pitching staff.

And "K Street" is a great nickname for the staff. Fun team they've got in D.C. this season.
   4. Esoteric Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4109365)
The Nats still suffer from their chronic offensive problems, but it's also worth pointing out that while Morse is out and Zimmerman is off to a cold start, the three biggest offensive question marks in the lineup have all started blazing out of the gate: Jayson Werth, Ian Desmond, and Adam LaRoche. I don't know which of them surprises me more. I suppose Werth was bound to bounce back, and LaRoche had obvious injury problems last year that made an improvement this year plausible, so I guess the answer is Desmond. There's no way he can keep up his torrid pace -- if he were able to he would suddenly become one of the best shortstops in all of baseball -- but it sure does feel weird to have someone who at least gives a credible simulation of a leadoff hitter.

Finally, Gio Gonzalez and Edwin Jackson are making one hell of an impression thus far. Gonzalez has the added virtue of being almost ridiculously likable.

Damn it feels good to be a fan of this team. My reward for suffering through those awful "Natinals" years.
   5. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM (#4109370)
Btw, Ankiel's throw last night was a thing of beauty.
   6. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:00 AM (#4109372)
Btw, Ankiel's throw last night was a thing of beauty.

QFT.
Runner on third, medium-shallow fly to center... yeah, let's just hope the next guy gets a hit.
   7. Dan Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:10 AM (#4109375)
The kicker about the Ankiel throw was that the runner on third was Schafer, a pretty speedy guy, and they never even thought of sending him.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:44 AM (#4109381)
Good on fangraphs for landing some sort of SI hookup.
   9. Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: April 18, 2012 at 02:00 AM (#4109384)
Sports Illustrated: Financed by a rich grandpa.
   10. DKDC Posted: April 18, 2012 at 04:25 AM (#4109397)
And given the platform, Fangraphs decided to produce power rankings that mihht be an even worse indicator of team quality than your standard power rankings (which generally rank teams roughly by W-L but at least have some adjustment in the early going for expected team quality).
   11. boteman digs the circuit clout Posted: April 18, 2012 at 04:56 AM (#4109400)
Damn it feels good to be a fan of this team. My reward for suffering through those awful "Natinals" years.

For once I'm wearing my red curly W baseball cap around not as an ostentatious joke, but with pride. How long will it last?

Please don't wake me, don't shake me now if it's only...if it's only just a dream.
   12. OsunaSakata Posted: April 18, 2012 at 05:16 AM (#4109404)
Btw, Ankiel's throw last night was a thing of beauty.


And you wonder how he was unable to throw to home plate from 60 feet, 6 inches, a decade ago.
   13. Greg K Posted: April 18, 2012 at 06:59 AM (#4109410)
My simple way of keeping track of the standings is to project a final win total assuming the current pythag pace as the actual winning pct in the remaining games. It's useful for me because I have trouble conceptualizing what a 10 game lead in mid-July, or 45 wins in mid-June means.

The playoff teams currently are
AL East - Toronto 108 wins
AL Central - Detroit 111 wins
AL West - Texas 137 wins (mostly thanks to the 18-2 win today)
Wild Card 1 - Baltimore 93 wins
Wild Card 2 - New York 91 wins

NL East - Washington 114 wins
NL Central - St. Louis 120 wins
NL West - Los Angeles 110 wins
Wild Card 1 - Arizona 98 wins
Wild Card 2 - Philadelphia 85 wins

It's obviously a very rudimentary system, but by about three weeks in its usually spitting out fairly reasonable win totals (if not necessarily correct on which teams will end up winning that amount).
   14. God Posted: April 18, 2012 at 07:13 AM (#4109413)
Anybody ever think Ankiel should give pitching another shot? Not right now, but maybe in a couple of years when he might need to hang on as a Brooks Kieschnick-type character?
   15. Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: April 18, 2012 at 07:27 AM (#4109417)
Man, I don't know. If it went well, it would be the greatest comeback story I've ever seen. If it went poorly, it would be a complete trainwreck.

I think we'd all like to see Ankiel do what makes him the happiest, but selfishly as a baseball fan, I really don't want to watch him suffer through the same issues that almost cost him his career. This American Life had a segment with Steve Blass this week in which a sports psychiatrist talked about how Blass Disease is often caused by overthinking. That rings true when you watch that throw Ankiel made - he didn't have time to worry about his mechanics, he just had to wing it in there. Having 20-30 seconds between pitches to stand there and think might be the worst thing in the world for him.
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 07:52 AM (#4109422)
Are DC fans excited about the Nats yet? I lived there when they moved to DC and it was all Redskins, all the time. With the Caps success, and the Nats having exciting players like Stras and Harper, has that put the Nats on the map in DC yet?
   17. Tricky Dick Posted: April 18, 2012 at 08:03 AM (#4109426)
The most surprising part of the Astros' start to the season is their ability to take walks. The Astros had the worst BB% in the majors last year (6.1%) and are now ranked 7th in BB% (10.4%). Under a new front office, the Astros made an obvious effort to change the approach to walks among hitters, beginning in the spring. In a way, this makes me more upset with Ed Wade. I assumed that it is nearly impossible to change hitter's approach to walks. If it turns out that all the front office has to do is emphasize walks more to the hitters, then I should give Wade even more blame.
   18. jmurph Posted: April 18, 2012 at 08:16 AM (#4109428)
Are DC fans excited about the Nats yet? I lived there when they moved to DC and it was all Redskins, all the time. With the Caps success, and the Nats having exciting players like Stras and Harper, has that put the Nats on the map in DC yet?


My take is that it hasn't hit the average person yet, though I think actual sports fans (locally-raised fans and those from other cities) are paying a little more attention. Strasburg went Monday night, for instance, and the attendance was under 17,000. So they haven't yet reached the point where they can draw against bad teams during the week.
   19. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: April 18, 2012 at 08:34 AM (#4109436)
And given the platform, Fangraphs decided to produce power rankings that mihht be an even worse indicator of team quality than your standard power rankings


This.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 08:40 AM (#4109439)
And given the platform, Fangraphs decided to produce power rankings that mihht be an even worse indicator of team quality than your standard power rankings


This.


Really, how can an alleged sabremetric site base power rankings off a 10-game sample?
   21. Hit by Pitch Posted: April 18, 2012 at 08:59 AM (#4109446)
They should do this using a rolling 6 month sample.
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:05 AM (#4109449)
They should do this using a rolling 6 month sample.

Isn't the "best" approach to revise your projectiosn model every 10 or 20 games (based on the new data), sim the remainder of the season, and add the projected records to actual records to date?

A rolling sample of team performance includes a lot of guys that are on different teams now (e.g. Mil. should not be getting "power" credit for what Fielder did last year.
   23. Hit by Pitch Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:14 AM (#4109454)
sn't the "best" approach to revise your projectiosn model every 10 or 20 games (based on the new data)


That's true but that's already being done at baseball prospectus and coolstandings. I think SI is trying to do something different. Its also true that many players have turned over but the rolling 6 months sample is still more meaningful than this.
   24. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:16 AM (#4109456)
This American Life had a segment with Steve Blass this week in which a sports psychiatrist talked about how Blass Disease is often caused by overthinking.


So Ankiel needs to learn Zen, then?
   25. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:33 AM (#4109466)
Strasburg went Monday night, for instance, and the attendance was under 17,000.


Monday night games in April are generally going to draw poorly. On the same night, the White Sox drew 13,732, the Diamondbacks drew 17,366, the Royals drew 14,039, the Braves drew 16,161. Some of those teams were even good last year.
   26. Chris Needham Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:37 AM (#4109472)
And the local recently beloved hockey team had a home game, a few miles away, that drew 18,000. You gotta figure a few thousand of them would've gone to the Nats game.
   27. TomH Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:39 AM (#4109474)
The Nats' Davey Johnson took a lot of grief for senidng Lannan down to the minors to start the year. THAT decision looks OK right now, don't it.
   28. TerpNats Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4109484)
Are DC fans excited about the Nats yet? I lived there when they moved to DC and it was all Redskins, all the time. With the Caps success, and the Nats having exciting players like Stras and Harper, has that put the Nats on the map in DC yet?

My take is that it hasn't hit the average person yet, though I think actual sports fans (locally-raised fans and those from other cities) are paying a little more attention. Strasburg went Monday night, for instance, and the attendance was under 17,000. So they haven't yet reached the point where they can draw against bad teams during the week.
Dan Steinberg addressed this recently on his D.C. Sports Bog (Is Strasmas over?), where he notes that Monday's crowd was the second-largest on the first Monday or Tuesday night home game following opening day in the five-year history of Nationals Park (and the first came in the second-ever regular-season game there). People are slowly beginning to catch on, but not local sports talk radio (not yet, anyway), which this morning is examining the Redskins schedule with fine-tooth comb and largely ignoring Gio Gonzalez. Ignorant one-dimensional media.
   29. jmurph Posted: April 18, 2012 at 09:49 AM (#4109492)
I didn't mean to come off negative- just trying to point out in response to the question that they haven't exactly taken the city by storm yet. But the potential is there. More $2 ticket nights like last night will certainly keep me going.
   30. Chris Needham Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4109501)
Well, go back to 2005. In a stadium without any of the bells and whistles, they drew 38-40K a night in June while the team was on that hot streak to push them into first place.

There's definitely potential here.
   31. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4109502)

Really, how can an alleged sabremetric site base power rankings off a 10-game sample?


The small sample size is a problem now, but as the season progresses, it will become increasingly apparent that FanGraphs' WAR has only a nodding acquaintance with actual wins.
   32. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM (#4109504)
The small sample size is a problem now, but as the season progresses, it will become increasingly apparent that FanGraphs' WAR has only a nodding acquaintance with actual wins.

Yes, their pitching WAR is a joke.
   33. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM (#4109506)
as the season progresses, it will become increasingly apparent that FanGraphs' WAR has only a nodding acquaintance with actual wins.
Well, the main problem with fWAR is its pitching component that regresses the rate of hits allowed to the league mean. The full-team fWAR will bring hits allowed back into the equation with its defensive component. (Not all the way, since it will continue to assume that all pitchers allow "no doubt" hits and outs at the same rate, but it'll get them most of the way back to reality.)

This is basically just a component runs power ranking, with some regression of batted ball data on defense. It's not much different from the W2% or W3% at BPro. I don't think that Fangraphs WAR, used for a whole team, will be notably worse at predicting team quality than the various other component runs metrics out there.
   34. spike Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM (#4109519)
I know they are just for fun, but I really don't care for "power rankings" in baseball - my interest is based around the rise and fall of my teams fortunes over the season, not the comparative horse-race aspect of it. "Well just don't read them, then" applies, but since the subject has come up, I think it's a bit of an instant analysis football-ification of baseball coverage, which I certainly disapprove of. But what do I know? Football does just fine by doing this sort of thing.

/Glad baseball fans in my old hometown have something to cheer about - when Senators II left it was very sad for my 10 year old self.
   35. Guapo Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4109526)
That Ankiel throw was great, but I likethis Ankiel throw from last year better.
   36. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM (#4109533)
A baserunner kill by an OF is the most exciting play in baseball IMO. Similar to a great blocked shot in basketball.
   37. Danny Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM (#4109539)
Speaking of good throws, Josh Reddick picked up his 4th assist last night--which is more than any other team has.
   38. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM (#4109560)
I can't resist copying this after last night's funfest:

What's in a 1-5 start anyway? The Red Sox may have looked road kill-esque against the Tigers and Blue Jays during the opening week, but after trouncing a once-hot Tampa Bay Rays team (outscoring them 31-11), the Red Sox are looking like the Red Sox again.


-------------------------------------------------------

Are DC fans excited about the Nats yet? I lived there when they moved to DC and it was all Redskins, all the time. With the Caps success, and the Nats having exciting players like Stras and Harper, has that put the Nats on the map in DC yet?

Attendance hasn't yet reflected the quality of the team, but it'll get there if the Nats keep going the way they have been. My Nats fan friends are all excited, and I'm even thinking of making the long trek down there myself. What we all want to see, of course, is a Yanks - Nats World Series.

And for the first time in my memory, the Post is actually starting to give prominent play to the Nats on a regular basis** instead of focusing almost exclusively on the Caps' playoff games and the Redskins' strategy for the upcoming draft.


**Nice front page Sports section story today on the velocity ratings of the starting rotation---tops in baseball
   39. McCoy Posted: April 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM (#4109565)
My Nats fan friends are all excited, and I'm even thinking of making the long trek down there myself.

Just bought some tickets for tomorrow's game against the Astros. Ended up costing me $29.45 for a ticket that would cost me $71 if I bought it from the Nationals. Not crazy about the over $10 in fees that end up jacking up tickets significantly but hopefully it will be a good game. i'll be just to the right of home plate (to the left if you are viewing it from the pitcher's mound) and up one section.
   40. sjberke Posted: April 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4109567)
I don't know for sure which station TerpNats was referring to (I gave up listening to DC area sportstalk about the time Ken Beatrice retired), but I would guess it could be the station owned by Redskins owner Dan Snyder. Best way to see that the Nats get air time might be for Nat owners Ted and Mark Lerner to buy a station. They certainly could afford it.
   41. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: April 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4109568)
This American Life had a segment with Steve Blass this week in which a sports psychiatrist talked about how Blass Disease is often caused by overthinking.

The fact that all of them are eventually diagnosed with compromised UCLs is a coincidence, I'm sure.
   42. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 11:37 AM (#4109598)
Regarding the "low" attendance number for Monday night, let's also not forget it was a ridiculous 84 degrees and plenty humid when the game started.
   43. Spahn Insane Posted: April 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM (#4109606)
That Cubs ranking's hilarious.
   44. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4109641)
Unfortunately - kind of? - all of my friends that are Nats fans have been Nats fans since the move to DC.
They all seem super-excited about this year's team, but they've always gone to lots of games.

Also, that A's rating is too low. They beat the Angels decisively last night! I demand a recount! Josh Reddick!
   45. toratoratora Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:19 PM (#4109645)
I live in Baltimore and haven't seen a Nats game live since the RFK days, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna find my way down to DC for a game sometime this year.

The main reasons I haven't done so yet are DC traffic (Which is horrific in the weekday pregame hrs)and the cost(Because the O's are so terrible I can usually snag free or super cheap tix for anything other than Yanks/Sox games).

But this team looks to be worth a gander...plus I know this gal who lives in the new buildings right next to the stadium...
   46. TerpNats Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4109652)
Tora, drive down I-95, park at the Greenbelt Metro, and it's a one-seat ride to Nationals Park.
   47. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:30 PM (#4109659)
I absolutely refuse to take the Nationals seriously.
   48. Kurt Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM (#4109665)
And for the first time in my memory, the Post is actually starting to give prominent play to the Nats on a regular basis** instead of focusing almost exclusively on the Caps' playoff games and the Redskins' strategy for the upcoming draft.

I noticed this too - I forget if it was Saturday or Sunday, but it was the Nats rather than the Caps who got the big shot across the top of A1.

The main reasons I haven't done so yet are DC traffic (Which is horrific in the weekday pregame hrs)

Drive to Greenbelt and take the Metro - in my experience they do a pretty good job of getting people in and out.

And eat before you go or bring your own food - my wife had to wait in the hot dog line for three innings on Saturday.


Edit: Coke to TerpNats
   49. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM (#4109670)
Drive to Greenbelt and take the Metro - in my experience they do a pretty good job of getting people in and out.

There is a Metro problem for those returning home looking to transfer from the Green to the Red/Orange/Blue/Yellow. At 10pm or later you can expect up to a 15-minute wait at Gallery Place or L'Enfant Plaza. On a weeknight that is a real inconvenience.
   50. Kurt Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM (#4109678)
There is a Metro problem for those returning home looking to transfer from the Green to the Red/Orange/Blue/Yellow. At 10pm or later you can expect up to a 15-minute wait at Gallery Place or L'Enfant Plaza. On a weeknight that is a real inconvenience.

Agreed - my closest stop is Takoma, but I usually park at Fort Totten to avoid having to transfer. If you can do it from the green line though, like toratoratora can, it beats the hell out of driving all the way in.
   51. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4109685)
People are slowly beginning to catch on, but not local sports talk radio (not yet, anyway)


I don't know for sure which station TerpNats was referring to (I gave up listening to DC area sportstalk about the time Ken Beatrice retired), but I would guess it could be the station owned by Redskins owner Dan Snyder.

Thanks to the miracle of deregulation, Dan Snyder now owns ALL of the local DC sports talk stations.
   52. Chris Needham Posted: April 18, 2012 at 12:51 PM (#4109694)
[49] That's the biggest deterrent to me going to more games. Something like 70% of their fans are coming from VA, and are affected by the transfer. If you're coming from Alexandria, and don't feel like taking the blue all the way around, it's a three-line transfer, which is death that time of night.

I wish there were more reasonable parking options. There are some $10 lots ~5 blocks or so away, but everything closer is $20 and up, which is ridiculous. In the zeal to cater to the NIMBYs they've taken away basically all street parking, even in parts of the zone that're nothing but empty lots and warehouses. I'll usually park near Capitol South (there are a few 2-hour parking zones that stop enforcement at 8:30) and hoof it from there. It's like a 20-minute walk, which isn't bad if I'm by myself or a friend... but I can't imagine trying to bring a family there.

Of all the alternatives they examined, this is one of the least convenient locations for a lot of their fans.
   53. Kurt Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:05 PM (#4109711)
If you're coming from Alexandria, and don't feel like taking the blue all the way around, it's a three-line transfer,

What about green to L'Enfant, and then yellow from there to VA?
   54. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:20 PM (#4109724)
People are talking a lot more about the Nats this year, but they haven't yet gotten to the point where people really care if they win or lose much. I see a lot more hats and jerseys around this year.

This team is really fun. It is possible that this will be the year I finally switch my "offical fandom" from the A's to the Nats. It's been coming for awhile, and the A's aren't really putting up much of a fight.

   55. Swedish Chef Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:27 PM (#4109734)
It is possible that this will be the year I finally switch my "offical fandom" from the A's to the Nats. It's been coming for awhile, and the A's aren't really putting up much of a fight.

You can just pretend that your fandom was included in the Gio trade.
   56. zenbitz Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:28 PM (#4109736)
Power Rankings: Dumbest thing ever or Dumbest thing currently in existence?
   57. toratoratora Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:36 PM (#4109744)
Actually it's less of a Metro issue than a 95 issue.
I live smack dab in the heart of B-more so driving to Silver Spring or Ft. Totten on a weekday around 5 or 6 at night is a nightmare. A 30 or so mile drive can easily take 2 hrs.

Really the best bet for me is to take the MARC to DC, then hop a Metro. I know they have a stop by the stadium and the neighborhood is changing (A few years back I would have never gotten off at that stop at late night). It may take a bit longer coming home but the tradeoff is worth it.

Edited to add that of course, I could leave way early, go to the Mall,check out the Freer, make a day of it, have dinner in G-town(1789 anyone?), then roll to the game....which sounds like a better plan.
Plus I can park at my friends place, which makes life smooth

It is possible that this will be the year I finally switch my "offical fandom" from the A's to the Nats. It's been coming for awhile, and the A's aren't really putting up much of a fight.

Don't feel bad. After a lifetime of quasi following the Pirates I'm thinking of switching allegiances and making the Nats my NL team.It would be nice to root for one local team.
   58. SoSH U at work Posted: April 18, 2012 at 01:43 PM (#4109749)
Power Rankings: Dumbest thing ever or Dumbest thing currently in existence?


There's only one way to find out.

Power Rankings of Dumb Things, 4.5 Billion B.C.-Present:

1. Sox dump Babe Ruth, launch Evil Inc.
2. Spiderman on the Bases
3. The Holocaust
4. Bo Schembechler pushing out Ernie Harwell
5. Power Rankings
6. A Box of Rocks
7. Tommy Lasorda
8. Interleague Play
9. 10 Dogs (whaddya know, jmac was right).
10. Scientology
11. 6org (to tie it back to the original thread).
12. New Coke

So, not all-time, but dumbest thing currently in existence.
   59. spike Posted: April 18, 2012 at 02:02 PM (#4109768)
How does all-star game tie, and all-star game determining WS home field not make that list?
   60. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4109780)
I wish there were more reasonable parking options. There are some $10 lots ~5 blocks or so away, but everything closer is $20 and up, which is ridiculous. In the zeal to cater to the NIMBYs they've taken away basically all street parking, even in parts of the zone that're nothing but empty lots and warehouses. I'll usually park near Capitol South (there are a few 2-hour parking zones that stop enforcement at 8:30) and hoof it from there. It's like a 20-minute walk, which isn't bad if I'm by myself or a friend... but I can't imagine trying to bring a family there.

I also park approximately 20 minutes away -- near the Capitol Police HQ -- but enforcement ends there at 6.30.

EDIT: Keep that between us, ok?
   61. Chris Needham Posted: April 18, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4109816)
[60] Supposedly there's a block or two of unmarked zones right across S. Capitol street... somewhere along the lines of 1st and P. I haven't wanted to try it, especially during a night game. But that can't be more than a 5-minute walk.

[53] Yeah, brain cramp. Maybe I shouldn't have downed that 5th claritin.
   62. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 18, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4109818)
NM.
   63. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4109841)
[60] Supposedly there's a block or two of unmarked zones right across S. Capitol street... somewhere along the lines of 1st and P. I haven't wanted to try it, especially during a night game. But that can't be more than a 5-minute walk.

I think that was true two years ago but who knows now? I really like parking closer to the Capitol, even with the 15-20 minute walk and putting up with the Fascist/Bolshevik crossing guard at the intersection of M and South Cap. By the time I get to my car I have walked off one of the two Stellas I consumed and the traffic has pretty much dissipated.
   64. Chris Needham Posted: April 18, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4109881)
I did just get a parking ticket on Monday at 8:33 for a zone that expires at 8:30. So your mileage may vary, even when you're in the right!
   65. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 18, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4109894)
I did just get a parking ticket on Monday at 8:33 for a zone that expires at 8:30. So your mileage may vary, even when you're in the right!

That sucks. Good luck with the appeal. I got a $15 ticket last August for not completely scrubbing off my expired DC registration sticker even though the old one would not even partially come off without the repeated use of a razor blade and bucket of warm water. Needless to say, my protest went nowhere.
   66. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: April 18, 2012 at 04:04 PM (#4109897)
It is possible that this will be the year I finally switch my "offical fandom" from the A's to the Nats. It's been coming for awhile, and the A's aren't really putting up much of a fight.

You can just pretend that your fandom was included in the Gio trade.

*throws chair*
   67. McCoy Posted: April 18, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4110053)
Edited to add that of course, I could leave way early, go to the Mall,check out the Freer, make a day of it, have dinner in G-town(1789 anyone?), then roll to the game....which sounds like a better plan.
Plus I can park at my friends place, which makes life smooth


Wouldn't that be something like a 4pm dinner then? Or even something like a 3pm dinner depending on what you get and when you go.
   68. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: April 18, 2012 at 08:42 PM (#4110147)
I got a $15 ticket last August for not completely scrubbing off my expired DC registration sticker even though the old one would not even partially come off without the repeated use of a razor blade and bucket of warm water. Needless to say, my protest went nowhere.

Things sure have changed in DC. Back in the early 80's my best friend had a decrepit Dodge Dart that couldn't have passed the annual inspection without a bribe way beyond his limited means. So first he placed a strategic leaf over the expired sticker, and after he started thinking that that particular ruse had passed its pull date, he then scraped the old sticker off (very carefully), artfully changed the year of expiration with a flair pen, then took it to one of those fancy color copying centers and made himself a very workable facsimile.

But the best part was when after about a year he finally got caught. On the space on his ticket where the DOT cop marked the nature of his violation, he simply wrote "FICTITIOUS INSPECTION STICKER". My friend said that the literary effort on the part of the DOT was almost worth the price of the ticket, and I couldn't really argue the point.
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: April 18, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4110277)
That Ankiel throw was great, but I likethis Ankiel throw from last year better.


When he retires, he's going to have quite a greatest hits video. I still love the first of these two the best.
   70. spike Posted: April 19, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4110680)
Wouldn't that be something like a 4pm dinner then? Or even something like a 3pm dinner depending on what you get and when you go.

Maison Blanche used to do a spectacular prix fixee "pre-theater" meal starting 4pm. It was the only way I could ever afford it, let alone bring a date.
   71. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 19, 2012 at 02:40 PM (#4110692)
When he retires, he's going to have quite a greatest hits video. I still love the first of these two the best.

I agree with you, because the runner was safe in the second one
   72. bigglou115 Posted: April 19, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4110702)
Anybody who followed Fangraphs' power rankings last year should know that while there are some things that crowd does well, this is not one of them.
   73. McCoy Posted: April 19, 2012 at 07:20 PM (#4110952)
Three triples in one inning I don't thin
k i've seen that before. It looks like washingtons vaunted era is going to take a massive hit tonight.

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