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Tuesday, February 07, 2012

Western Front: Scrappy Rain, Scrappy Rain

Arizona’s Willie Bloomquist is small (5-foot-11, 185 pounds) by current MLB standards, his baseball skills are limited, and he plays hard. He is, according to the vernacular, “scrappy.” Many fans love him for this. They watch Bloomquist, and what they see doesn’t seem so far removed from their own perceived level of ability. It is conceivable to watch him and think, “I could do that,” in a way that it is not possible to watch Justin Upton and reach the same conclusion. This makes it easier for some folks to root for Bloomquist than for Upton despite the latter’s superiority at baseball. I haven’t read the original research, but psychologist Scott Barry Kaufman references work done in this area:

  Researchers Penelope Lockwood and Ziva Kunda at the University of Waterloo found that stars whose success was relevant to people and seemed attainable to them evoked inspiration. In contrast, if the star’s success seemed unobtainable, some subjects reported that they felt deflated.

This could be a factor in Bloomquist’s popularity. And in Pavement’s.

Perspective is everything. What inspires endearment in some may inspire resentment in others. You might think it’s great that a player of Bloomquist’s caliber can survive in the big leagues with such a limited skill set. Or you might wonder why he is taking time away from more talented individuals who are languishing in the minors.

In Pavement’s case, the band had trouble writing cohesive melodies and recording them without falling apart in the process. Depending on your perspective, you might think it’s cool that people lacking basic musicianship skills can succeed in the business, or you might be annoyed that they have a recording contract when people who write songs and play instruments with some proficiency are struggling to support themselves and their families.

Sits back, pops corn ...

dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: February 07, 2012 at 01:20 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Roger Freed Is Ready Posted: February 07, 2012 at 11:24 AM (#4055398)
8 hours in and no 200-post long Pavement debate? No one bit on the Pavement = Willie Bloomquist thing? Where's the BBTF I used to know?
   2. Swedish Chef Posted: February 07, 2012 at 11:37 AM (#4055418)
That doesn't make sense at all, surely a supernatural greatness such as Pavement's will forever be unattainable by mere mortals.
   3. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: February 07, 2012 at 12:09 PM (#4055465)
8 hours in and no 200-post long Pavement debate? No one bit on the Pavement = Willie Bloomquist thing? Where's the BBTF I used to know?


I know, right?

Obviously, I'm no Repoz ...
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: February 07, 2012 at 12:20 PM (#4055478)
I'm more bothered by his assessment of Eckstein's output than his view of Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (I'm an Archers of Loaf man myself). Eckstein is miles better than Willie Bloomquist as a ballplayer (I realize he acknowledged he was better, but it's kind of offhand and not terribly enthusiastic). Eckstein had a legitimately productive 10-year career. Reducing him to little more than a poster child for scrappiness is off base.
   5. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: February 07, 2012 at 01:24 PM (#4055567)
I'll bite ...

In Pavement’s case, the band had trouble writing cohesive melodies and recording them without falling apart in the process. Depending on your perspective, you might think it’s cool that people lacking basic musicianship skills can succeed in the business, or you might be annoyed that they have a recording contract when people who write songs and play instruments with some proficiency are struggling to support themselves and their families.


The problem is that this is simply wrong. Pavement had solid "musicianship skills", in that all of them could play their instruments competently (except Bob Nostanovich, but that's why they had two drummers). Gary Young was a good drummer, he just looked sloppy on stage because he constantly threw his drum sticks all over the place, the guy who replaced him was solid, Mark Ibold was a solid bass player in a you-don't-notice-him sort of way, and once you've got a competent rhythm section you're a competent rock band. There were a million bands in the 1990s that couldn't play their instruments and plenty labels and fans that fetishized this, but all Pavement has in common with them was that their first couple of releases weren't of the highest recording quality. What Pavement did was to choose to be sloppy and not to play at the edge of their skills but rather well under them and lazily. Sure, Malkmus is more vocalist than singer, but Lou Reed had been putting out records for 25 years when Pavement's first album came out, so that's neither here nor there. Pavement were just a band that made some aesthetic decisions. If you want Bloomquistian untalented-but-scrappy from that era you should buy yourself something from Beat Happening's oeuvre.

EDIT: And I'm not now and wasn't then especially a Pavement. I was more into the people who couldn't play!

EDIT EDIT: What I'm saying is that Pavement were like Ichiro -- they could have written cohesive melodies and kept together while playing them if they'd wanted to.

   6. Dangerous Dean Posted: February 07, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4055742)
I know a bit about Bloomquist and agree it is fun to watch a guy with no perceived exceptional talent. I think of him as this generation's Cookie Rojas.

But I have never heard of Pavement. So I got nuttin.
   7. RJ in TO Posted: February 07, 2012 at 04:06 PM (#4055770)
(I'm an Archers of Loaf man myself)

This is because, like me, you're an intelligent and handsome individual.
   8. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 07, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4055812)
What I'm saying is that Pavement were like Ichiro -- they could have written cohesive melodies and kept together while playing them if they'd wanted to


"Gold Soundz" is about as a perfect a two-and-a-half-minute pop song as you could imagine; concise, melodic, and without a note wasted or out of place.
   9. Repoz Posted: February 07, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4055857)
What I'm saying is that Pavement were like Ichiro -- they could have written cohesive melodies and kept together while playing them if they'd wanted to.

I remember once being part of a Maxwell's late nite rolling rock drinktank about Pavement...and someone (might have been Chris Stamey) said that Malkmus could have rolled out pure pop hit after pure pop hit but much like Chilton, he'd rather "drag a rake over the recording" to give it lasting quality. Or something.
   10. bread and rice Posted: February 07, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4055965)
Date With Ikea makes Brighten the Corners the superior Pavement album.

And I never listened to Archers of Loaf but I really like Crooked Fingers. Is AoL anything similar to what Bachmann was doing in Crooked Fingers?
   11. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: February 07, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4055987)
In Pavement’s case, the band had trouble writing cohesive melodies and recording them without falling apart in the process.


Malkmus during his Pavement days was a genius of melody.

"Gold Soundz" is about as a perfect a two-and-a-half-minute pop song as you could imagine; concise, melodic, and without a note wasted or out of place.


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