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What’s next for Maitan and other former Braves |

Maitan’s stock has clearly dropped. It will be interesting to see whether teams will wait for Otani to sign

By going back into the international amateur free agent pool, teams will have to use their bonus pools for such players to sign Maitan or any of the others. Since the signing period began back in July, millions of dollars have already been spent, so teams will be somewhat limited. The top five teams in terms of remaining pools, as of Tuesday, are:
Texas Rangers, $3.535 million
New York Yankees, $3.5 million
Minnesota Twins, $3.245 million
Pittsburgh Pirates, $2,2266,750
San Francisco Giants, $1,835,000

The Giants, like 11 other teams, are limited after going over their pool last year and can only offer any individual player $300,000, which would likely keep them out of any potential Maitan sweepstakes. The Mariners ($1,557,500) and the Marlins ($1.49 million) are the only other organizations with seven-figure bonus pools remaining that aren’t capped at $300K per player.

Jim Furtado Posted: November 22, 2017 at 06:19 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 22, 2017 at 08:58 AM (#5579997)
The players get to keep the bonuses the Braves paid, correct?
   2. mathesond Posted: November 22, 2017 at 09:13 AM (#5580000)
The players get to keep the bonuses the Braves paid, correct?

That is my understanding.
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 22, 2017 at 09:20 AM (#5580003)

That is my understanding.

Cool. So, the depleted bonus pools don't really hurt them, since they're getting paid twice anyway.
   4. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: November 22, 2017 at 09:25 AM (#5580005)
Teams can apply funds from next year's pool to signing them, apparently. It's a "double dip because the Braves are drips" policy.
   5. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 22, 2017 at 10:30 AM (#5580049)
What happens next is they're gifted to other franchises who are cozier with Manfred's rule. Obviously.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 22, 2017 at 01:01 PM (#5580236)
More on the process of re-signing the victims (co-conspirators?) of the Braves human trafficking scheme:
The players — who get to keep their original bonuses but cannot be represented by the agents that negotiated their original contracts — will be subject to international signing pool restrictions but are otherwise free to sign with any organization.

MLB teams will be allowed a fresh $200K of bonus pool space to work with to sign any of these prospects. They may elect to draw from either their current signing period pool allocation or that of the 2018-19 period (but not both).

All MLB teams but the Braves can sign the prospects between December 5th of this year and January 15th of the next. Any players that do not sign within that period will no longer be eligible to receive a signing bonus. The Braves are eligible to pursue any still-unsigned prospects (without a bonus offer) beginning on May 1, 2018.

Looks like none of the players would remain with Atlanta unless no other team is willing to make an offer. So, that's a lost year from the international draft, and next year the Braves will only be able to sign the dregs of that market for $10K or less, followed by a year at half their normal bonus cap. Kind of like two and a half years of virtually nothing but organizational filler through that pipeline. That's what - missing out on 2-5 MLB players, and some trade-fodder, if they are good at drafting? Not the end of the world, although missing just one impact player can be a big deal.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: November 22, 2017 at 02:27 PM (#5580309)
Anybody know if the Braves can trade for international bonus pool money for the next couple of years? Is it really a ban on signing anybody (above $10,000) or have they just had all of their bonus pool money taken away?
   8. Walt Davis Posted: November 22, 2017 at 02:30 PM (#5580311)
I'm no expert on Mr. Ohtani but I'm gonna take a wild guess that the chances are near zero that he's going to sign with Minn or Pitt, so I'd move early on my second choice if I was one of them.
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 22, 2017 at 02:41 PM (#5580317)
Anybody know if the Braves can trade for international bonus pool money for the next couple of years? Is it really a ban on signing anybody (above $10,000) or have they just had all of their bonus pool money taken away?

It doesn't seem like trading for bonus pool money is specifically addressed, but the Commisioner's statement suggests it's a ban on any above-limit signing:
Accordingly, the Braves will be prohibited from signing any international player for more than $10,000 during the 2019-20 signing period, which is the first signing period in which the Braves are not subject to any signing restrictions under our rules; and the Braves' international signing bonus pool for the 2020-21 signing period will be reduced by 50 percent.

The Braves wouldn't need bonus pool money to sign as many $10K players as they like, so MLB didn't really have to say more.

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