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Baseball Primer Newsblog— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
Whitey remembers…and that’s a good thing. (well…except for the Joe Lovitto being a good young player jazz)
Herzog also has a current link with the Rangers in team president Nolan Ryan. In 1971, Ryan was a young fireballer with the New York Mets and Herzog was that club’s farm director. As such, he got a call from Mets general Bob Scheffing after that season.
“Scheffing called me and said, ‘Would you call (young outfielder) Leroy Stanton and tell him that we traded him for (Jim) Fregosi?’’ said Herzog.
“I said, ‘For Fregosi? I wouldn’t trade Leroy Stanton for Fregosi. Leroy’s got a chance to be a pretty good outfielder. I just saw Fregosi play in Kansas City and he can’t play anymore.
“(Scheffing) didn’t even tell me about Ryan being in the trade. I picked up the paper the next day and I saw that Ryan was in the deal. ... I couldn’t believe my eyes.”
...“When you look at the four (championship series) teams, there’s no doubt in my mind that the Cardinals had the best offense — the Cardinals had the best 12 players outside of the pitchers. They also had the best defensive players and the best pinch-hitters. The Cardinals had the second-best bullpen. I think Milwaukee had the best bullpen.
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1. Walt Davis Posted: October 19, 2011 at 08:42 PM (#3968486)Stanton, age 32: 182/265/248, 46 OPS+ in 342 PA
His age 31 SLG was just 3 points shy of his age 32 OPS!
A career 140 ISO and never a SLG over 416, that age 31 season (for the Ms) was out of nowhere. OPS+ wise he'd had some similar but worse seasons.
Anyway, he was a 26-year-old "prospect" at the time of the trade, so swapping him for a hope that Fregosi would get healthy wasn't so bad. After the trade, Fregosi hit OK for a 3B/SS (103 OPS+) but couldn't stay healthy and couldn't stay at 3B. He and Stanton both lasted 7 more years and Stanton only beat him by 3 WAR despite twice the playing time. A healthy Fregosi who could have stuck at 3B for 5 years or so would have been a perfectly cromulent player.
Including Ryan in the deal may have been a mistake. :-)
By the way, if you like your HoFers all-peaky, Fregosi's got a decent case -- 43 WAR from ages 21 to 28 as a SS. Through age 28, that's #5 in SS WAR (70%+ games), essentially tied with Banks (who blows past him with 12.5 WAR at ages 29-30). He's #19 on the career list (50%+ games).
(but I would listen if Whitey called...)
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