Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Wednesday, July 30, 2014

Why the Mets Are Right to Save the New York State Pavilion

If the Mets are going to save an old relic like Bobby Abreu, they should save an old relic like this.

Buy a ticket to see the Mets take on the Giants on Friday, and you’ll be giving directly to preserve an architectural giant. No, not Citi Field—certainly not Citi Field. That’s the Queens ballpark that, according to The New Yorker, was erected as a temple to the Brooklyn Dodgers. The same ballpark that Deadspin describes as “a monument to the Mets’ modern futility and clumsiness.”

Unfortunately, it is much too late to save Shea Stadium. But for every ticket that sells on Friday, the Mets will give $5 to People for the Pavilion, an organization that is working to save the New York State Pavilion, the Philip Johnson–designed marvel and one of the few remaining vestiges of the 1964–65 World’s Fair. The Pavilion opened to the world in April 1964, just five days after the Mets lost to the Pirates in their first game at Shea Stadium.
People for the Pavilion

The team’s history has always been connected with the fairgrounds, linked by more than just the 7 train. The Mets even added a patch to the team’s 1964–65 uniforms to commemorate the 1964–65 World’s Fair in New York. Both Shea Stadium and New York’s World’s Fair were the work of legendary planner Robert Moses. As Rory Costello writes for the Society for American Baseball Research: “Back in 1938, the ‘Master Builder’ described his plan to transform Flushing Meadows ‘From Dump to Glory’ in connection with the World’s Fair of 1939, which was also held in New York City,” he writes. “Moses was being literal—over 26 years, the site had accepted 50,000,000 cubic yards of refuse material.”...

The Mets lost a big chunk of their history when they lost Shea Stadium. Fans might not know it, but they would lose another bit of the team’s history if the New York State Pavilion isn’t turned around. Queens seems to realize what’s at stake—all the more reason for the Mets organization and base to support the preservation of the Pavilion, perhaps with a new purpose that recognizes and encourages the global diversity of the borough. At the very least, it might earn the Mets some new fans.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 30, 2014 at 03:10 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: baseball history, citifield, mets, shea stadium

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Bhaakon Posted: July 31, 2014 at 04:40 AM (#4761107)
Isn't that where the Fresh Prince killed that space cockroach and saved an entire galaxy? And Iron Man blew up up that drunk Russian wrestler? How are we not protecting this historic battle site!
   2. Jeltzandini Posted: July 31, 2014 at 08:15 AM (#4761121)
Trying to envision a world in which Shea Stadium is preserved as a historic monument.
   3. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: July 31, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4761124)
The Mets lost a big chunk of their history when they lost Shea Stadium.

I don't know anyone who misses Shea Stadium.
   4. Downtown Bookie Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:02 AM (#4761131)
The Mets lost a big chunk of their history when they lost Shea Stadium.

I don't know anyone who misses Shea Stadium.


Chipper Jones

DB
   5. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:29 AM (#4761143)
I don't know Chipper Jones!
   6. Swoboda is freedom Posted: July 31, 2014 at 09:42 AM (#4761150)

Chipper Jones


You mean Larry Wayne Jones?
   7. zack Posted: July 31, 2014 at 12:24 PM (#4761386)
I miss Shea, but I'm a Mets fan. I do think it looked a lot better prior to the 80's, with the panels and before it was painted blue.
   8. billyshears Posted: July 31, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4761566)
Until I get to experience a game in CitiField where the fans are going so crazy that the building is shaking, I'll miss Shea.
   9. JE (Jason) Posted: July 31, 2014 at 01:57 PM (#4761590)
Until I get to experience a game in CitiField where the fans are going so crazy that the building is shaking, I'll miss Shea.

Many Deadskin fans feel the same way about RFK.

And yes, I also miss Big Shea.
   10. Go-Kart Mozart Posted: July 31, 2014 at 02:01 PM (#4761609)
ill third that sentiment. i miss shea too.
   11. PreservedFish Posted: July 31, 2014 at 02:12 PM (#4761636)
I miss Shea. Loved that place. I have no emotional connection with the new stadium.
   12. 'Spos goes to the Big O Posted: July 31, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4761866)
I miss Shea too, but I get to maybe two Mets games a year, & Citi is good value if you cheap out & wander around the first level.
I also miss the old stadia in Detroit, San Francisco, Minneapolis, the Bronx, & the Big Owe, so my tastes may be suspect.
   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 31, 2014 at 05:06 PM (#4761999)
. . . one of the few remaining vestiges of the 1964–65 World’s Fair.

I went to that World's Fair on a YMCA trip that even included a Mets game. There aren't any World's Fairs anymore, are there? Or did the U.S. Just lose interest?
   14. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: July 31, 2014 at 05:43 PM (#4762050)
here aren't any World's Fairs anymore, are there? Or did the U.S. Just lose interest?


according to Wikipedia the last one in the US was New Orleans in 1982, the last planned one in the US was Chicago 1992 (canceled)
recent ones:

2010s
2010 - China Shanghai,[46] China - Expo 2010
2012 - South Korea Yeosu,[52] South Korea - Expo 2012
2015 - Italy Milan, Italy - Expo 2015
2017 - Kazakhstan Astana, Kazakhstan - Expo 2017
   15. Srul Itza Posted: July 31, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4762094)
Memory of Shea:

August 1, 1972: Went with my brother on an outing to New York City (we lived just north, in Rockland). Visited Columbia (was looking at schools), Staten Island Ferry, a few other things. Then went to Shea for a twi-night doubleheader and Banner Day. The first game went 18 innings, won by the Mets on a base hit by Cleon Jones. It was way late, so we decided we had gotten the 18 innings we paid for, and headed home.
   16. Srul Itza Posted: July 31, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4762102)
Shea was dump. But it was OUR dump.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Tuque
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 7-27-2015
(35 - 9:36pm, Jul 27)
Last: Harveys Wallbangers

NewsblogMets give up too much to get Tyler Clippard - Keith Law Blog - ESPN (INSIDER)
(18 - 9:36pm, Jul 27)
Last: billyshears

NewsblogNick Cafardo: There’s a long shopping list at this year’s baseball trade deadline - The Boston Globe
(21 - 9:35pm, Jul 27)
Last: Into the Void

NewsblogHall of Fame Class of 2015 set for induction | MLB.com
(49 - 9:35pm, Jul 27)
Last: dave h

NewsblogFor these Royals, winning attitude really does make a difference | The Kansas City Star
(8 - 9:34pm, Jul 27)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogOT: Wrestling Thread November 2014
(1026 - 9:33pm, Jul 27)
Last: Chokeland Bill

NewsblogOTP - July 2015: Winning the Political Game: Politics is More Like Baseball Than Football
(5503 - 9:32pm, Jul 27)
Last: tshipman

NewsblogTrade Chatter - 2015 Deadline
(105 - 9:21pm, Jul 27)
Last: bobm

NewsblogHelp for Mets, Just When They Needed It
(29 - 9:12pm, Jul 27)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - July 2015
(1618 - 9:10pm, Jul 27)
Last: GordonShumway

NewsblogOT: Soccer June 2015
(1330 - 9:08pm, Jul 27)
Last: CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo

NewsblogCubs release Edwin Jackson, eat $15 million left on contract
(8 - 9:07pm, Jul 27)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogFull Count » Red Sox trade Shane Victorino to Angels for infielder Josh Rutledge; Recall Rusney Castillo
(1 - 8:47pm, Jul 27)
Last: A New Leaf

NewsblogDusty in the Wind: The Sad Saga of Dusty Coleman, Kansas City’s Modern-Day Moonlight Graham «
(2 - 8:32pm, Jul 27)
Last: PASTE Will Notice Harper When He Hits .467 (Zeth)

NewsblogBBTF 2015 Shooty Memorial Softball Meet-up!
(323 - 8:26pm, Jul 27)
Last: villageidiom

Page rendered in 0.2228 seconds
48 querie(s) executed