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1. zonk Posted: July 19, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4186866)Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the previews look otherwise...
FWIW - I watched Ferrell's "You're Welcome, America" with a cousin that was an actual Bush 'ranger' fundraiser and I think he found it just as funny as I did. The portion where Ferrell/W describes exploring an abandoned mine with Jeb, HW, and Neil still makes my sides hurt.
I thought so too until I saw the previews. Ferrell actually seems to be a campaign aide, and is channeling a toned-down version of Ron Burgundy or Robert Goulet. Zack G is the candidate, and he's channeling the effiminite southerner character he did in that dog-show sketch on SNL a year or so ago. Looks pretty funny, although I think Ferrell can be hit or miss these days.
I think you're mistaken. Ferrell plays the smug, overly confident incumbent.
That might be it, too. They are definitely both candidates. Hi-jinx will ensue!
Nick Offerman is great, but Zach has another gear, IMO. YMMV.
Both guys are awesome, though.
Someone needs to give me a link to that lineup announcement. There was nothing funny in the one posted above.
They still make movies with Ben Stiller, at least Ferrel has made people laugh by channelling someone other than Jack Tripper.
The fact that they are making a fourth Transformer movie, is an affront to movie goers everywhere. Vin Diesel had a 5 second career....there are a lot worse things than Will Ferrell.
They made THREE TWILIGHT MOVIES!!!
http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/07/gifcap-darwin-barney-makes-the-tag-of-the-year/
Pretty good play.
There are 4 with talk of more!
I really did not like Ferrell's tenure on SNL and I'm really surprised he's become a comedic superstar. Outside of George Bush, his impersonations fell flat. His recurring characters were overall pretty horrible, especially the Spartan cheerleader & the Night at the Roxbury guy (though that may be the fault of the writers).
He's kinda sorta won me over with Anchorman & Elf so at the very least I can tolerate him now, but I didn't think he would be the superstar of that mid-90s SNL class. I always thought Darrell Hammond & Chris Parnell had more talent.
MMDVMV. And no way do I trust a canoe crafted by Galifiniakis.
Vin Diesel was in Pitch Black, which alone grants that he should have had a career. That Fast & Furious and Fast Five were both dumb fun easily makes his career valid.
Even the Rifftrax couldn't make Breaking Dawn Part 1 worth watching. Eclipse has the best homoerotic scene ever filmed by Hollywood, though. Let boring Bella freeze, guys, and get that hot werewolf on vampire action on!
This lineup reading was dire. Somewhere Bill Murray groaned.
I love/hated that movie. Vin Diesel was great, the concept was great, the effects were fun. But I just could not get over how massively stupid all the other characters were. It makes me think the Republicans are going to actually win and the human race is going evolve to the point that they have completely lost the ability do any critical thinking. I can suspend my disbelief for a planet full of apes, I can accept wizards throwing spells, I can even accept a world in which someone somewhere laughed at a Ben Stiller movie, but I could not get over the relative stupidity of every single other character in that movie(except Diesel and the Sheriff)
(less said about the fast and furious the better....I had no idea that cars could shift into top gear 6 times during a straight away....if you are watching a movie, in which one scene, ever, is a close up of a person shifting gears in a car, and you are enjoying it, you my friend, is what is wrong with the human race.) :)
Someone needs to give me a link to that lineup announcement. There was nothing funny in the one posted above.
If the basketball intro was "Ghostbusters," this Cubs one was "Ghostbusters 2." (And the basketball intro wasn't "Ghostbusters.")
A sports car drove under a tractor trailer. A SPORTS CAR DROVE UNDER A TRACTOR TRAILER. How does the 6 year old in you not enjoy that?
A motorcycle took out a helicopter...didn't turn die harderest into a decent movie either.
I was still having flashbacks to them shifting gears on the car again. I think they were in 9th gear by that time. Of course it doesn't help that I'm not a car guy, that I think the worse part of any action movie is the stupid chase sequences. For every Return of the Jedi or Jackie Chan movie with a great chase sequence, you get 10 Matrix 2/Die hardest/Terminator 3 waste of screen time that is designed only to chew up time since the movies didn't bother to actually have a plot. So you can imagine how much I wasn't going to enjoy a movie, that the entire "plot" was a chase sequence in (boring)cars.
Absolutely. With the caveat that the GI Joe movie managed to perform the impossible and actually be worse than Transformers.
Absolutely. With the caveat that the GI Joe movie managed to perform the impossible and actually be worse than Transformers.
But the point is, you've seen all these movies! If everyone would stop paying $13.75 for these pieces of #### maybe they will go away. But no, I know adults with kids and a mortgage who went to see the new Batman or Spiderman on the opening weekend. Oooh, let me guess, it's a wise cracking, happy-go-lucky Batman. No? Dark and edgy? Wow, I'm shocked.
Looks pretty funny, although I think Ferrell can be hit or miss these days.
No one is going to argue with that. Ninety minutes of comedy is hard. They can't all be winners.
He's kinda sorta won me over with Anchorman & Elf so at the very least I can tolerate him now,
Tough crowd. Two comedy 10s moved you all the way to "Yeah, I guess he's adequate. Maybe Chris Parnell level talent after all."
Neither one of them could touch Gary Johnston with a 10 foot pole.
Hey, "Tropic Thunder" was awesome.
Ferrell did (what sounds like) something similar for an NBA game some time back - not all that funny. I had mixed feelings about his SNL tenure, but he's done a surprising amount of good work in movies, apparently you can shoe his man-child act into a number of different settings.
Thanks to Tom Cruise. He made that movie.
Those movies had potential. GI Joe is a franchise you almost have to intentionally screw up to make a failure movie(that and not understand basic physics....thanks to the Joe movie, I now know that if I'm underwater that ice can fall on top of me and damage me..and knowing is half the battle)
I saw Transformers from the $5 bin. Gi Joe from Redbox. I will see the Batman movie in the theater, even though it stars a less than worthy human being, I guess the sheer awesomeness of Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman can make up for the retched human being that is the guy playing batman. I will probably purchase the Spiderman movie when it hits $9 (although I still haven't seen the third movie yet)
went full retard at the lighting director.
I find people to be despicable human beings if they treat the help in the way that Bale did. I can now easily imagine him stiffing waiters, being a condescending dick to valets, and treating his maid like dirt.
ERRONEOUS!
The lighting director is not the "help". Bale's biggest sin on Terminator was demanding to play the Connor role and thus requiring them to beef up the role. Connor originally was supposed to get about 3 minutes of screen time at the end of the movie. They wanted Bale to play the Terminator role that Sam Worthington eventually got but Bale really wanted to be Connor.
Bale is the higher ranking, bigger person in the group. I would find his actions despicable if he was a ceo at a fortune 500, if he was a ball player yelling at the bullpen coach, or he was a teacher yelling at a student. It is indicative of his personality that he went full retard on the guy, and I cannot stomach a person like that. Every time I see him in a role now, I keep thinking "what a ####### dick".... regardless of the role. I never saw the Terminator movie for that exact reason.
I did pretty much like "Elf," but otherwise I'm not a big fan of the films he has been in that I've seen. Mind you, there are several I have never wanted to waste my time sitting in front of in the first place.
But that's still a better big-screen track record that Chevy Chase. Has anyone ever had such a long and undistinguished film career?
"Fletch" is an all-timer. The "Vacation" movies weren't my thing, but they were pretty successful. "Three Amigos" and "Spies Like Us" were also '80s comedies that were pretty good and moderate box office successes.
And my favorite Will Ferrell movie is "The Other Guys".
I see they've postponed the sequel until spring. Although I paid 10 bucks or whatever to see the first one (which was terrible, it's either the worst movie I've ever seen or #2 behind ")Charlie's Angels-Full Throttle"), I was looking forward to any action movie with The Rock and Bruce Willis. Plus, this looks pretty damn cool.
I'd take you up on that bet if either of us had billions of dollars to gamble (hey, maybe MGL will). You and Christian Bale are not representative of the entire human race. Many, many people* have likely never unloaded on someone period, let alone to the degree that Bale did.
* For the record, I'm not talking about me. Though I don't recall any specific instance, I'm sure I've done it.
I was looking forward to the sequel, which is sad considering how utterly horrible the first one was, but as I stated, you almost have to intentionally screw up that formula.
It's simple 1. action movie. 2. clear cut good guy and bad guy. 3. world wide threat. 4. Ninja Fight(or two with some of the similar subtext as the Luke Skywalker/Darth Vader fights) 5. Cool Unique identifying costumes for everyone. 6. Vehicles, but no mecha armor(or any type of enhanced armor, the joes are about the soldiers and their unique capabilities, not generic mechas) 7. The Baronness is a very capable, independent bad guy, not some brainwashed bimbo. She is a bad guy that makes every naughty librarian fantasy even better. and of course 8. ICE FLOATS.
And it's perfectly alright with me to not like him for that. There is a difference between a 15 second unload and a 2+ minute rant that belittles the guy, who by all accounts is one of the top men in his field. If Bale was 20 years old, he could be forgiven, at 30+ years old that is the actions of an entitled prick, and he's to old to change, and there are to many other actors out there that can take my hard earned cash.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/03/business/fi-ct-gijoe3
So then Bale wasn't unloading on the "help". You don't like him because you heard a clip of him yelling at somebody and then have made huge generalizations about Bale because of it. Hey, that is your right but it would be nice if just once somebody on the internet wouldn't make huge absolute statements about strangers they barely know based on scant evidence.
Then they missed their target audience the second they made them a member of the U.N. (mind you, I know that they did that for the overseas market, but as Captain America's success overseas has shown, that is probably stressing out too much about an issue that others don't really care about)
If you wanted to market to conservatives, the movie writes itself, you open with the destruction of an american monument along with a financial attack that destabilizes money, you make destro and baroness clearly hedonist, you make Cobra's stated goals to destroy democratically elected societies and rule over them. You throw in the token black character(like they did) who isn't actually competent so that he wouldn't threaten white america. Make cobra an analogy for socialism/, in that all the soldiers look alike and fight alike and are more or less robots cared for by Cobra. who are overcome by a smaller but individualized independent force through grit and guile. Good action sequence, some funny pithy remarks, and you have a much better movie that that abomination.
I will make a generalization about a guy who goes off on a two minute rant in his work environment. It's a dick, priviliged move. Real people cannot do that at their place of employment, but because he's some uber star he is allowed to exist in a world that social norms aren't expected from him? #### HIM. That two minute rant is enough to prove the type of person he is.
Growing up I always though Dana Carvey was much funnier than Mike Myers.
The Republicans are the critical thinkers, my friend.
Why is it every other liberal is like the college freshman philosophy student that thinks he's suddenly unlocked the truth of the universe and nobody else can understand?
He's doing Seth Galifianakis.
Haven't seen "Fletch." Reviews look mixed on it -- maybe someday. Sufficiently disliked "Three Amigos" that I gave up on it partway through.
I'm also not equating "undistinguished" and "financially successful," myself, though some might do so.
What the hell? Caddyshack is one of the funniest movies ever. How do you possibly call that undistinguished?
I didn't like the film at all, sorry. Among other things, didn't laugh once. YMMV.
There are lots of people with worse film careers than Chevy Chase but he's at best a distant fourth on the list of reasons Caddyshack is so great, behind Rodney, Knight and Murray.
But, really? Seriously? What movies do you find funny? I am very curious.
There are lots of people with worse film careers than Chevy Chase but he's at best a distant fourth on the list of reasons Caddyshack is so great, behind Rodney, Knight and Murray.
Oh, totally agree he wasn't what made the movie, but to say that he had an undistinguished career and not even mention Caddyshack is not right. Also, I love Christmas Family Vacation, which Chase does make, so I am a bit jaded. The other Vacation movies I can do without.
Some Marx Brothers films such as "Duck Soup" and "Monkey Business," "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," "Some Like It Hot," various Woody Allen films such as "Annie Hall" and "Hannah and Her Sisters" and "Manhattan," various silents such as "The Playhouse" (Buster Keaton) and "The Adventurer" (Charlie Chaplin) and "Safety Last" (Harold Lloyd), "M*A*S*H," "The Lady Eve," a few Mel Brooks films such as "The Producers" and "Young Frankenstein," "Groundhog Day," "American Graffiti," "Airplane!," "This is Spinal Tap," "His Girl Friday," "A Fish Called Wanda," "My Cousin Vinny," "Arsenic and Old Lace," "The Philadelphia Story," "The Bank Dick," "The Thin Man," "Mr. Hulot's Holiday," "National Lampoon's Animal House," "Best in Show," "Bull Durham," and "Clerks." And that doesn't count animated films.
Again, YMMV.
When I glanced at this thread's headline I first saw 'Will Ferrell...nude walks' and immediately thought of this movie.
Do I need to paste in your political baiting from a chatter, Joey?
Will Ferrell has roughly (or exactly) two modes in his movies: the smug idiot, and the nebbish loser. The smug idiot is tiresome, I think.
Meanwhile, I think Old School is really funny, but have Anchorman as my favorite comedic effort of all time. I've watched it at least 30+ times at this point and consistently find new things to laugh at. Upon first viewing I thought it was good, but the more I watched it the more I appreciated it. I'm very worried that the sequel will ruin things.
Just to clarify, it's not the "lighting director" it's the Director of Photography or cinematographer - which is one of the most important roles on the set, behind only the director and producer. He's there every day, for every frame of every shot, and he's the one who is primarily in charge of the look and feel of the movie - and he has a whole slew of people working underneath him - ACs and dolly operators and grip and electric, often dozens of people, sometimes hundreds, especially on a huge set like Batman. He works intimately with makeup and costuming and visual effects and production designers. He's not the "help" - one could argue that he's substantially more important than Christian Bale, or at least an equal. He's nearly as difficult to replace as Bale is, especially at that point in the production process.
Also, the story that I've heard is that the DP wouldn't stop fiddling around with equipment on set while scenes were being shot. Moving around while a scene is being shot is strongly frowned upon, and is, especially for someone like Bale who takes his performance extremely seriously, potentially very distracting. It's a huge no-no and the DP shouldn't have been doing it.
There's also the fact that film shoots are incredibly stressful situations. You're often stuck in enclosed spaces doing hours upon hours of incredibly tedious and monotonous work, with a large group of very ambitious and often egotistical people, under an incredibly tight schedule and with a whole shitload of outside restrictions. It is ####### hard. That can lead to temper flare-ups in even the nicest people.
Bale almost certainly went over the line, but to say that he "went full retard at the help" is just wrong. He freaked out on a coworker for repeatedly distracting him (and some would argue disrespecting him) during work he took incredibly seriously, in circumstances which would test the sanity of even the calmest and friendliest of people even if they weren't the guy working under hot lights in uncomfortable costumes trying to recreate the emotional turmoil of being an insane revenge-fueled orphan superhero.
I recently saw Three Amigos again, and I don't think guys like Chase and Steve Martin have aged well. At the time the Vacation movies were made, the humor was edgy, and Chase's slapstick was pretty unique. Now, with the boundaries for good taste having moved so much, guys like Ferrell could go further than Chase ever could, so by comparison, what was going on was lame. Caddyshack was hilarious twenty years ago when I first saw it, but it's also not the same today. If Caddyshack were remade today, rather than the screaming caused by the stray Baby Ruth bar in the pool, I'm sure you would have a much more literal re-interpretation of that by some of today's comics, with a lot more graphic references to human waste.
None of this is to excuse Chase's later movies like Funny Farm and Vegas Vacation, which were abominations in any era.
Apparently he just visited the victims of the Colorado shooting that are still in the hospital and went to a memorial for the dead pretty much unannounced and without media attention. Maybe he is not as evil as Hitler?
A literal interpretation of that scene wouldn't be as funny. Which might explain the problem with comedies today, if they think it would.
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