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With bat flips and fly balls, Yasiel Puig puts on a swaggering Game 1 show | Plaschke

He ran out of the dugout during introductions with his tongue wagging playfully out of his mouth. He took off his cap to reveal lightning bolts shaved into his haircut.

Then, a couple of hours later, with a bat flip and a chest thump and roars that made Dodger Stadium literally shake, the Yasiel Puig Show officially began.

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   1. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 15, 2017 at 04:27 PM (#5554366)
Am I wrong to not particularly enjoy the Yasiel Puig show?
   2. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: October 15, 2017 at 04:33 PM (#5554367)
`When he’s playing well he is a hell of a lot of fun. I imagine those times when he is not playing well some of the antics can be a bit tiresome.

I don’t really love the bat flips but whatever. What I would do if I were his manager though is tell him to do whatever he wants but to realize that he’s going to hear it from me if he’s strutting on a ball in the gap and gets thrown out trying to take an extra base that should’ve been easy.
   3. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 15, 2017 at 05:18 PM (#5554376)
I don’t really love the bat flips but whatever. What I would do if I were his manager though is tell him to do whatever he wants but to realize that he’s going to hear it from me if he’s strutting on a ball in the gap and gets thrown out trying to take an extra base that should’ve been easy.

Yeah, bat flips are fine for no-doubters that turn a game around, but maybe they should be reserved for balls that couldn't be converted from triples to doubles.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: October 15, 2017 at 05:26 PM (#5554379)
Yeah, bat flips are fine for no-doubters that turn a game around, but maybe they should be reserved for balls that couldn't be converted from triples to doubles.


The only Dodger who could have wound up on third after that hit was Babe Herman.
   5. Lassus Posted: October 15, 2017 at 05:33 PM (#5554380)
I'm definitely the horrible sort who wants him to annoy even more people.
   6. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 15, 2017 at 05:36 PM (#5554381)
Yeah, bat flips are fine for no-doubters that turn a game around, but maybe they should be reserved for balls that couldn't be converted from triples to doubles.

The only Dodger who could have wound up on third after that hit was Babe Herman.


I should've made it clear that that was a generic comment. It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, and I wasn't even watching last night's game.
   7. bunyon Posted: October 15, 2017 at 05:46 PM (#5554384)
and I wasn't even watching last night's game.

Well past your bedtime.
   8. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: October 15, 2017 at 06:19 PM (#5554391)
The HR that Puig admired barely even made it out. Had he hit it a foot shorter, his stare may have turned a double into a single. That's why I don't like it when he does that. It's fine on no doubters, though.
   9. esseff Posted: October 15, 2017 at 06:27 PM (#5554395)
roars that made Dodger Stadium literally shake


I'm going to say no.
   10. PreservedFish Posted: October 15, 2017 at 06:38 PM (#5554400)
As a chef I often managed cooks that had silly arrogant little gestures or affectations like, for example, spinning one's tongs before using them to transfer a heap of pasta from pan to bowl. My policy was: "You get to do that until you drop the tongs, and then you never do it again."

The mistaken homerun celebration bothers me too, not only the arrogance but also the idiocy of it. Don't they find these mistakes dreadfully embarrassing? I guess not, some players are shameless. But in general I love Puig and I enjoy cocky players, particularly if they look like they're having fun.
   11. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 15, 2017 at 06:46 PM (#5554405)
I'm going to say no.


I was at a game where Autzen Stadium set a record for loudest football crowd of all time. It was impressive, but nothing shook other than Michigan State's confidence.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: October 15, 2017 at 07:14 PM (#5554413)
I too would prefer players timed their gawking moments to true no-doubters ... and don't understand how they don't learn this lesson after getting burned ... but I've learned to accept the annoying stuff that occasionally costs a base in exchange for the good stuff. (Long before Javy Baez joined the Cubs.) Puig's base-running gaffes would probably annoy me more.
   13. Greg K Posted: October 15, 2017 at 07:22 PM (#5554416)
The Rough Riders used to install temporary bleachers in the end-zones for Labour Day games (they've since moved to a new stadium, not sure if they still need to do that).

If you were insane enough to stand at the back row of those (rather than cling to the bench for dear life) you could feel the stands literally shaking.

But that could just as likely be from a light breeze rather than the energy of the crowd.
   14. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:25 PM (#5554452)
That was a very big jump from Baez there.
   15. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:39 PM (#5554466)
So I must be the last person on planet Earth to recognize the resemblance between Justin Turner and Tormund Giantsbane. But there it is.
   16. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:42 PM (#5554469)
Walking Hernandez twice in a row is . . . suboptimal.

EDIT: Whoops, looks like Kiké and I were both confused about the count.
   17. JAHV Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:42 PM (#5554470)
I dislike bat flips and staring down your hits regardless, but it's terrible when it actually affects balls in play (or potentially could be a ball in play). Just put your head down and run the bases.
   18. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:43 PM (#5554473)
wrong thread, obvs
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:55 PM (#5554483)
roars that made Dodger Stadium literally shake

I was in Pittsburgh for that Mark Sanchez/Jets AFC title game, and the stands most definitely were shaking after a Steelers TD.

worst version of that was a Beach Boys concert at the previous Yankee Stadium in the 1980s. 50,000 fans goose-stepping in sync at the hits made for a 'lively' upper deck. (and they say white people have no rhythm.)
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 15, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5554487)
and I wasn't even watching last night's game.

Well past your bedtime.


More like under the Mendoza line of boredom with NL baseball.
   21. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 15, 2017 at 10:01 PM (#5554567)
worst version of that was a Beach Boys concert at the previous Yankee Stadium in the 1980s. 50,000 fans goose-stepping in sync at the hits made for a 'lively' upper deck.


"Goose-stepping"? I never knew that the SS stood for "Surfin' Safari."

Which song got the biggest reaction: "Little Deutsch Coup," "Sloop Zyklon B," or "Help Me, Rommel"?
   22. bunyon Posted: October 16, 2017 at 09:33 AM (#5554820)
More like under the Mendoza line of boredom with NL baseball.

Good christ. If you couldn't enjoy games 1 and 2 of the NLCS this year then...I don't know what to say. But I'll certainly take any advice you give on books, movies, or 1950s doubles with an additional grain of salt.
   23. Rally Posted: October 16, 2017 at 09:43 AM (#5554825)
So I must be the last person on planet Earth to recognize the resemblance between Justin Turner and Tormund Giantsbane. But there it is.


Justin Tormund was added to my 2016 OOTP draft.
   24. bunyon Posted: October 16, 2017 at 09:54 AM (#5554828)
I was thinking that public figures who want anonymity later would benefit from hair and beard like Turner has. When he retires, he can shave his head and face and be unrecognizable.
   25. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 16, 2017 at 10:11 AM (#5554838)
Puig giving a curtain call to a silent crowd was impressive.
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM (#5554870)
Which song got the biggest reaction: "Little Deutsch Coup," "Sloop Zyklon B," or "Help Me, Rommel"?

Sadly, it was still "Kokomo." It's always "Kokomo."
   27. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 16, 2017 at 11:31 AM (#5554892)
I was thinking that public figures who want anonymity later would benefit from hair and beard like Turner has. When he retires, he can shave his head and face and be unrecognizable.

Or sometimes it works the other way around.
   28. Charles S. is a big fan of Outerbridge Horsey Posted: October 16, 2017 at 11:34 AM (#5554899)
I was at a game where Autzen Stadium set a record for loudest football crowd of all time. It was impressive, but nothing shook other than Michigan State's confidence.


I was at Camp Randall two weeks ago in the top row, and that place shook like a m****rf****r during jump around. Big stadiums can shake.
   29. Bruce Markusen Posted: October 16, 2017 at 12:45 PM (#5554972)
Not running hard on an extra-base hit that you assume is a home run IS a baserunning gaffe. Running what should be a double into a single, or a triple into a double, because you're too busy preening at home plate, is one of the worst baserunning mistakes that a player can make. Especially in these games, which are only the most important of the season.
   30. Brian Posted: October 16, 2017 at 01:02 PM (#5554989)
roars that made Dodger Stadium literally shake


I'm going to say no.


Shea Stadium, 2006 Game 7 NLCS, you would be wrong. Very wrong.
   31. Satan Says Posted: October 16, 2017 at 01:06 PM (#5554992)

Or sometimes it works the other way around.

My beard's not as long as Turner's, but I haven't cut mine in a year. Including a full 'stache that Turner doesn't have.

Ex-wife can still recognize me.
   32. Satan Says Posted: October 16, 2017 at 01:11 PM (#5554999)
Not a fan of the cadillac, but Puig's been OUTSTANDING this postseason.

Three walks last night, including one in the ninth that helps Turner get to the plate.
   33. bachslunch Posted: October 16, 2017 at 02:36 PM (#5555113)
Am thinking Dodger Stadium could be made to shake without help from fan noise, and I'm not talking earthquakes. Went to a game this season, and made the mistake of sitting in the bleachers -- the noise from the nearby bank of speakers was deafening. Had to watch the game with wadded up chunks of tissue in my ears, and at times that wasn't enough to block the volume of noise. Really, really wish I had brought sponge ear plugs, which several folks had done. Have never been in a noisier stadium circumstance.
   34. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 16, 2017 at 02:59 PM (#5555133)
the noise from the nearby bank of speakers was deafening.

The Dodgers also abuse the EVERYBODY MAKE SOME NOOOOOIZZE/CLAP YOUR HANDS/whatever more than just about any other team, I noticed last night. It's blasted, and I mean blasted, after just about EVERY PITCH.
   35. dejarouehg Posted: October 16, 2017 at 03:17 PM (#5555147)
Shea Stadium, 2006 Game 7 NLCS


The shaking feeling is also probably a function of where you were/are sitting. Was at Shea for the Pratt HR - in upper deck, 1b side a little more than half way on RF side. (I bring this up b/c I had a great view of the ball hitting of Finley's glove! Looked to all of us that had he timed his jump, it was a likely catch.) It definitely felt like the stadium was shaking.

Shea for game 7 in 86 had a similar feel, esp. when Knight hit the HR.

Loudest ever, and I swear the stands were shaking, was YS2 in 96 when Girardi hit the triple.

I don't particularly care for college football but it must be cool to be at USC @ Notre Dame or OSU/Michigan when those places are jumping.
   36. Satan Says Posted: October 16, 2017 at 03:59 PM (#5555184)
in upper deck, 1b side a little more than half way on RF side.

Jets landing at LaGuardia with reverse engine thrust was pretty interesting up there.
   37. Hot Wheeling American Posted: October 16, 2017 at 04:38 PM (#5555216)
Shea Stadium, 2006 Game 7 NLCS


Confirmed. I was sitting in the left field upper deck, would have had no view of Endy's catch. But...I was taking my time coming back from the bathroom and walked through the path of the upper deck aisle. Rolen swung...I was able to see the catch and...I don't remember the next thirty seconds (except the noise and shaking).
   38. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 16, 2017 at 04:52 PM (#5555224)
Puig's been OUTSTANDING this postseason.

Three walks last night, including one in the ninth that helps Turner get to the plate.
438/571/875/1446, with 5 BB in 21 PAs.
   39. eddieot Posted: October 16, 2017 at 06:48 PM (#5555293)
I'm with Lassus. I like having a handful of players that piss everyone off. Baseball has a plethora of good guys, it needs some villains to give it some juice. I'm not saying we need to go all WWE but let's let Yasiel be Yasiel.
   40. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 16, 2017 at 07:00 PM (#5555297)
Shea Stadium, 2006 Game 7 NLCS

The shaking feeling is also probably a function of where you were/are sitting. Was at Shea for the Pratt HR - in upper deck, 1b side a little more than half way on RF side. (I bring this up b/c I had a great view of the ball hitting of Finley's glove! Looked to all of us that had he timed his jump, it was a likely catch.) It definitely felt like the stadium was shaking.

Shea for game 7 in 86 had a similar feel, esp. when Knight hit the HR.

Loudest ever, and I swear the stands were shaking, was YS2 in 96 when Girardi hit the triple.

I don't particularly care for college football but it must be cool to be at USC @ Notre Dame or OSU/Michigan when those places are jumping.


The Kansas City Chiefs have the loudest decibel count ever recorded for an outdoor stadium, but I doubt if that topped the Metrodome during the 1987 and 1991 World Series, when the noise level was compared to the sound of a jet engine.
   41. phredbird Posted: October 16, 2017 at 07:03 PM (#5555300)

i'll sign on with those who don't like the bat flip when it costs a base. i can't believe that by the time these guys reach this level they don't know enough to be running out of the batter's box.

wasn't puig benched a couple of times this year for these kinds of infractions? or was it lack of hustle? or is that sort of the same as showboating?

i guess you can hustle and then be a showboat. that would not bother me as long as the hustle is there. oh well ... better go change the onion on my belt.
   42. JAHV Posted: October 16, 2017 at 07:51 PM (#5555333)
I'm with Lassus. I like having a handful of players that piss everyone off. Baseball has a plethora of good guys, it needs some villains to give it some juice. I'm not saying we need to go all WWE but let's let Yasiel be Yasiel.


Different strokes and all that, but I simply don't understand this at all. The nature of sports - competition between two teams of highly skilled athletes - provides all the drama and excitement necessary for entertainment. I don't need someone being a pompous jerk or yelling at the other team or being AJ Pierzynski to increase the drama. The game speaks for itself. The villain is the team you're rooting against. The hero is the team you're rooting for. Anything else is superfluous at best and detracts from the gameplay at worst. Puig's an incredible athlete - I would be much happier to see him use his athletic ability to run as fast as he possibly can around the bases. I'm not more impressed or excited by his hits because he stands there and looks at them. That takes no athletic ability.
   43. PreservedFish Posted: October 16, 2017 at 10:40 PM (#5555495)
The game speaks for itself. The villain is the team you're rooting against. The hero is the team you're rooting for. Anything else is superfluous at best and detracts from the gameplay at worst.


The older I get, the less I care about my own team and the more I enjoy watching games in which I have no stake. I want to see a diversity of players - primarily a diversity of skills and approaches - but a diversity of personalities is also very welcome.
   44. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: October 16, 2017 at 11:19 PM (#5555506)

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