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Monday, October 29, 2012

World Series Aftermath chatter

Time for some final thoughts on the World Series, the postseason, and the 2012 MLB Season…

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Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:18 AM | 58 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Alex Vila Posted: October 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM (#4287239)
That was a lot of fun! 3 perfect games, a triple crown, a bunch of no-hitters... what a year!
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4287241)
Sergio Romo just got famous.
   3. Anonymous Observer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM (#4287248)
Approximately 110 days until pitchers and catchers report.
   4. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM (#4287254)
To me, this will forever be known as the year Trout and Harper arrived.
   5. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM (#4287259)
The Triple Crown and Mike Trout will be my recollection of this season. Simply amazing. Maybe the most important thing that happens will be The Strasburg Shutdown though. Love it or hate it (as most of us including me do) this is likely a vital moment in the care of pitchers. If it works it's going to be copied quickly. If it fails I think we'll see much more aggressive use of young pitchers on the idea that \"#### it, we don't know what to do so let's get while the gettin' is good."

If this year doesn't slam the door on the myth of the "proven closer" I don't know what will.

Rivera hurt...Yankees have best record in baseball
Wilson hurt...Giants win pennant
Jim Johnson 51 saves, 20 in 4 previous seasons combined...Orioles have best season in 15 years
Valverde goes to pieces in playoffs...Coke steps in and Tigers don't miss Valverde one bit
Clippard 32 saves, 1 previously in career...Nationals have best season since the Strike
Phillies sign Papelbon...have worst season in a decade
Athletics trade proven closer, rotate new closers...win most games since 2003
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM (#4287263)
Also Fernando Rodney not allowing any baserunners or runs all year...
   7. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM (#4287269)
Rivera hurt...Yankees have best record in baseball


Not quite.

Coke steps in and Tigers don't miss Valverde one bit


This is debatable. The Yankees did a good job of making Valverde's failure in the LCS irrelevant, but the Tigers certainly could have used another reliable RHP in their bullpen in the WS. I don't think Leylend was all that crazy about having to use Coke against so many right-handed batters. And the Yankees certainly missed Rivera this season. More good pitchers is better than fewer good pitchers, notwithstanding the myth of the proven closer.
   8. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM (#4287272)
Ah damn, American League=Baseball right?
   9. boteman Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:53 AM (#4287288)
One bright spot for the coming cold, gloomy months is that we won't be subjected to yet another rendition of G.B.A. during the 7th inning stretch to send off our troops overseas to do God's Glorious Work™ and win the favors of 72 virgins.

Oh? That's not us?
   10. TerpNats Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:55 AM (#4287292)
Intriguing season, from the rise of teams at each end of the B-W Parkway (though I like the Nationals' long-term chances better than the Orioles'), to the decline of the east coast old guard (Bosox and Phillies falter, though with completely healthy pitching, the Phils could be a factor in 2013, while the Yankees are aging and tottering), to the Giants proving their resiliency (one now wonders whether they might have been in the '11 postseason had Posey not been hurt) and the Miami implosion. Add the arrival of Trout and Harper, and the next few years figure to be fun in Anaheim and D.C.
   11. Alex Vila Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:59 AM (#4287299)
Craig Kimbrel striking out 50% of hitters he faced.
   12. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:00 PM (#4287304)
Oh? That's not us?


Not the part about the virgins, anyway.
   13. AndrewJ Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4287324)
The NL has now won three straight World Series (four of the last five) and three straight All-Star Games. Might it be time to retire the "American League=superior" meme?
   14. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:30 PM (#4287338)
Might it be time to retire the "American League=superior" meme?


Maybe. If they didn't play 250 interleague games every year.
   15. RJ in TO Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4287360)
But the Astros are moving to the AL. That should do a lot to even out league quality.
   16. Charlie O Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:35 PM (#4287413)
Thanks to playoffmania, the American League sent its seventh best team to the World Series and lost again. Pennant races were old fashioned and needed to be replaced so baseball could be more like the NFL. Yay for playoffs! Let's add more!
   17. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4287451)
One thing I haven't seen mentioned was Romo's total outfoxing of Miggy in the last ab. He had thrown nothing but sliders to right handers, as I'm sure Miggy knew. But Romo set Miggy up perfectly for the last pitch. He shook off the slider on the penultimate pitch, only to come back to it. But on the last pitch, he shook off the slider again- and came back with that 89 mph meatball right down the middle. I can't help but think he had gotten inside Miggy's head a little and had cemented even further the idea that he should just sit on the slider. What a gutsy way to end the series.
   18. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:18 PM (#4287455)
The Giants had a good bullpen (especially with Lincecum on fire), and a sparkling defense. Crawford and Belt both looked great with the glove.

Even as a Braves fan, I agree that the play-in game added some drama to the end of the season. Now to figure out what to do with the roster. I probably wouldn't re-sign Bourn, but there's no obvious replacement. Prado can play 3B or LF, but somebody's needed for the other spot.
   19. phredbird Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:21 PM (#4287462)
What a gutsy way to end the series.


they were hugging on the mound before i realized what had happened. it was a heckuva pitch.

Thanks to playoffmania, the American League sent its seventh best team to the World Series and lost again. Pennant races were old fashioned and needed to be replaced so baseball could be more like the NFL. Yay for playoffs! Let's add more!


i'm a cards fan, but i sympathize with this too. which is why i favor expansion to 32 teams and 8 4-team divisions and let the division winners sort it out. its just neater. but whatever, i'm a baseball junkie and i'd watch no matter what.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4287471)

One thing I haven't seen mentioned was Romo's total outfoxing of Miggy in the last ab. He had thrown nothing but sliders to right handers, as I'm sure Miggy knew


"Everyone in the world knew I was throwing a slider...except him I guess." Sergio Romo on his last pitch to Cabrera on MLB Network.

So, who closes for the Giants next season?
   21. Gamingboy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:28 PM (#4287475)
CHECKLIST:
No-Hitter [XXXXXXX] (Perfect Game: [XXX])
4-HR performance [X]
Bryce Harper shows up [X]
Teddy Wins [X]
Orioles are above .500 [X] (Orioles somehow make playoffs [X])
Shocking trade [X] (Ichiro out of Seattle!?!!?!?!?! Youk out of Boston?1?!)
Late-Season Collapse [X] (Texas)
Dodgers sold [X]
Ozzie Guillen involved in controversy [X]
Bobby Valentine involved in controversy [X]
Shockingly unexpected playoff team [X] (Two: Orioles and A's)
Umpire controversy [X]
NL wins All-Star Game [X]
Rookie Phenoms [X]
Farewells by future HOFers [X] (Chipper, maybe Thome and Mariano Rivera)
A-Rod is tabloid fodder [X]
Mauer hits .300+ [X]
The Nationals actually go forward on their whole "shut down Strasburg" thing [X]
Astros stink [X]
Mets stink [X]
Orioles stink [ ]
Cubs stink [X]
   22. Baldrick Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:35 PM (#4287481)
RA DICKEY [X]
   23. bunyon Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4287486)
i'm a cards fan, but i sympathize with this too. which is why i favor expansion to 32 teams and 8 4-team divisions and let the division winners sort it out. its just neater. but whatever, i'm a baseball junkie and i'd watch no matter what.

The only way to be sure of getting the best teams in the World Series is to put them there. With 8 4-team divisions (I also like this, just pointing out flaws), you'd end up with a 78 win division champ who gets hot at some point and then blown out in the WS.

You can't have multiple short series rounds and a good chance of avoiding weak WS teams.


I think I'd do something like this, though it is highly inelegant:

wild card winner gets no home games in the LDS and LCS UNLESS they have at least as many wins as the team they're playing.
worst division winner gets no home games if they are not within 5 games of the 2 seed.

In either event, if the 1 seed is 5 or more games in front of the team they face in the LCS they get 5 home games.



And LDS is best of 7.


Just weight the hell out of it. Best record in league used to mean automatic advancement to the World Series. It isn't automatic now but it should still mean something. For their trouble, the Nats started with two games in San Francisco. I realize that that is a one-off due to a late scheduling change but it signifies that MLB simply doesn't care about regular season records. And it should. (IMO, of course, YMMV).
   24. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:42 PM (#4287492)
Melky Cabrera becomes legitimate MVP candidate [X]
Melky Cabrera tests positive for a PED [X]
   25. SoSH U at work Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4287494)
For their trouble, the Nats started with two games in San Francisco. I realize that that is a one-off due to a late scheduling change but it signifies that MLB simply doesn't care about regular season records. And it should. (IMO, of course, YMMV).


Well, it was the Reds (and Nats in St. Louis), but that's one objection I don't think I'll ever understand. Other than revenue concerns for the better-seeded team (which I don't give a crap about), I don't see what the competitive disadvantage is to the 2-3 format. You play three at home and two on the road. I haven't herad a credible reason why the distribution of those games really matters.


However, I think your solution (involving not just the WC but the other division winners) is at least logical. Too many of the wildcard punishment schemes go too far in making advancement easier for the No. 1 seed, which isn't necessarily appropriate.
   26. staring out the window and waiting for fenderbelly Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:49 PM (#4287498)
very nice Gamingboy, I think that list will be my desktop wallpaper until it starts up again...
   27. BDC Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:58 PM (#4287507)
i favor expansion to 32 teams and 8 4-team divisions

I used to think that, but for reasons bunyon suggests, I don't anymore. Too much chance, even with unbalanced schedules, of dogs getting in and good teams staying home.

Better would be four eight-team divisions where eight teams make the playoffs, #1s playing #2s in each league in the first round. You've still got the possibility of third-place teams in one division having better records than firsts in another, but unbalanced schedules would both mitigate that possibility and make it less clear whether the better record meant a better team.

But the current 30-team arrangement is now so locked into odd numbers and interleague play and now a ten-team postseason that to arrive at a nice even-numbered structure seems like the Holy Grail or something.
   28. BDC Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4287510)
Oh, and on topic now: I had fun watching baseball this season, after an off-season where I contemplated giving it up altogether (long story, lack of money, 2011 World Series shock that lasted a long time). But I had a pretty good 2012 at the Ballpark, and the Rangers falling apart was something I was well-braced for. Epic collapse my ###, nothing will ever in any planetary system be worse than Game Six of 2012, so I am completely armored now for the future :) In a way 2012 was a coda to 2010-11 in Arlington. The same team was largely together, and it was a kind of nostalgia in advance to watch them. Next year will bring a partial teardown, and 2014 will accelerate the process. Fresh fields and pitchers new …
   29. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:35 PM (#4287537)
One of the two games I attend in person is one of the ten best games of the season [X]
Fans in San Francisco chant Barry Zito's name [X] (In a positive fashion [X]) (Causing Tim McCarver to confuse Barry Bonds and Barry Manilow [X])
Position player earns a win [X]
Mets no-hitter [X]
Alfonso Soriano is available [X]
   30. hokieneer Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4287550)
What a gutsy way to end the series.


Yeah it was. I mean that was a 89 MPH straight FB that if Miggy was looking for it, could have easily put over the wall in CF or RF.
   31. zonk Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4287555)
Phoenix TV reporting that Mark Grace will be indicted on 4 felony counts relating to a DUI (same one that cost him his job in the DBacks booth) and could do jail time...
   32. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:51 PM (#4287561)
4-HR performance [X]


I completely blanked on this, and had to go look it up to remember.

I'd also add:

"Where did THAT come from?" performance [X] (Edwin Encarnacion)
Stats controversy [X] (Melky's non-title)

(BTW, I've noticed that Posey is listed in BBTF as the league leader for AVG. His name (and stat) also has a glow around it. What's up with that?)

(Actually, all the AVG leaders for all years have "glows" around them. And the ERA leaders. Huh?)
   33. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4287578)
Actually, all the AVG leaders for all years have "glows" around them.


I'm pretty sure that Claire Chennault was the leader of the AVG during both years they operated.
   34. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4287589)
Not that anyone cares, but in my DMB sim league, the Dodgers finished off the Rays in 5. Clayton Kershaw NLCS and WS MVP.
   35. tshipman Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4287600)
Yeah it was. I mean that was a 89 MPH straight FB that if Miggy was looking for it, could have easily put over the wall in CF or RF.


I think you guys don't realize how good Romo's FB was last year. Romo got a lot of guys out with that FB.
   36. Austin Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4287602)
I'm still not a big fan of the second wild card, but I nevertheless thought that this was a very good regular season. The AL pennant races were excellent, the A's and Nationals were great stories, Mike Trout was transcendent, R.A. Dickey was one of the most fun players in history to watch, the three perfect games were pretty awesome.

The LDS round was pretty great, too. I think Tigers-A's was by far the best series, but the other three each had their merits. The LCS round was arguably still above-average - the NLCS was one of the least interesting seven-game series ever, but any seven-game series is hard to argue against. And in the ALCS, despite the sweep, Game 1 was very entertaining, games two and three were close, and most of us got to relish the defeat of the Evil Empire. The World Series was terrible, but I don't think it takes much away from the greatness of the rest of the 2012 season.
   37. mathesond Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:34 PM (#4287611)
Manager traded within division [X]
   38. SoSH U at work Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4287623)
Triple Crown [X]
(That one seems like it should have been mentioned earlier.

   39. Steve Treder Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4287637)
I think you guys don't realize how good Romo's FB was last year. Romo got a lot of guys out with that FB.

But the point is, Romo didn't get a lot of guys out with that FB because of the nastiness of the pitch itself. The pitch itself is has "gopherball" embossed in gold script all over it. Had Cabrera been expecting it, the ball would probably be coming down right around now, somewhere in rural Michigan.

The pitch is wickedly effective because Romo's slider is nastiness itself. Cabrera, as great a hitter as there is, had been helpless against it, unable to touch it. Therefore Romo's able to set batters up like bowling pins for that meatball fastball. (Plus, he places everything with pinpoint precision; the fastball to Cabrera maximized its purpose by being on the inside half of the plate, and up -- where it gets in on the hitter quickest, allowing for the least reaction and response; Cabrera couldn't even begin to get off a defensive foul-it-off two-strike swing. He just stared at it, wide-eyed and stunned.)
   40. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4287643)
Had Cabrera been expecting it, the ball would probably be coming down right around now, somewhere in rural Michigan.

Now way, that pitch was right on the inside corner. But Winnipeg, yes.
   41. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4287658)
The Romo-Cabrera ending reminded me of the ending to this game: Link

Pena just kept hammering VanSlyke, fastball, fastball, fastball and Andy kept fouling them off. Finally on the eighth pitch, Pena goes with some kind of floating change-up pitch but a terrible location, bellybutton high right down the middle. VanSlyke is completely frozen, called strike three, game over, 1-0 win for the Braves.
   42. AJMcCringleberry Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:50 PM (#4287681)
One of the two games I attend in person is one of the ten best games of the season [X]

I attended three games and one was Dickey's (first) one hitter.
   43. Sweatpants Posted: October 29, 2012 at 06:06 PM (#4287691)
Actually, all the AVG leaders for all years have "glows" around them. And the ERA leaders. Huh
The glow is for winning the batting title or the ERA title. The bold is for having the highest qualified average or the lowest qualified ERA.

For example, in 1981, Sammy Stewart had the lowest qualified ERA in the AL. The ERA title rules at the time, though, said that you had to round a pitcher's innings to the nearest whole number, meaning that 167.2 IP and 168.1 IP both would be counted, for the purposes of the ERA title, as 168 IP exactly. That bizarre method of calculating innings pitched hurt Stewart (who had 112.1 IP and thus lost that .1) and helped Steve McCatty (who had 185.2 IP). In fact, calculating ERA that way gave McCatty a lower ERA than Stewart, so McCatty won the ERA title despite allowing slightly more earned runs per nine innings than Stewart did. B-R recognizes McCatty as the winner of the ERA title by putting the glow around his 2.33 ERA in 1981, but it recognizes Stewart as the statistical leader by bolding his 2.32 ERA in that same year.

I think it's kind of silly. Also, I don't really get why Melky's average isn't bolded - is it because he took himself out of the running?
   44. Moeball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4287772)
Given all the hullabaloo over Trout and Harper this year, I'd say this was the most exciting season featuring very young rookie phenom Center Fielders in each league since...1951? Has it really been that long? And I guess the real question is - looking back in time we realize Mays and Mantle went on to become two transcendent players - but did people really view them as having that kind of upside potential in 1951? Just curious...
   45. Steve Treder Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4287781)
looking back in time we realize Mays and Mantle went on to become two transcendent players - but did people really view them as having that kind of upside potential in 1951?

No one (sane) confidently predicted they would go on to have the careers they did. But both of them absolutely knocked the socks off all observers. The upside potential of both was impossible to ignore or minimize.
   46. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:17 PM (#4287819)
The ending reminded me of the 1999 NLCS, which ended when Kenny Rogers walked in the winning run.

You all do see the similarity, don't you?
   47. Chris Fluit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4287859)
i favor expansion to 32 teams and 8 4-team divisions


I used to think that, but for reasons bunyon suggests, I don't anymore. Too much chance, even with unbalanced schedules, of dogs getting in and good teams staying home.


Yup. Look at recent history in the NFL: 9-7 Giants in 2011 winning the Super Bowl, 8-8 Broncos winning a division in 2011, 7-9 Seahawks winning a division in 2010, 8-8 Chargers going to the playoffs in 2008 while 11-5 Patriots stay home...

The 8 divisions with 4 teams format eliminates the "hated" wild card and guarantees that only division winners make the playoffs. But it doesn't guarantee that the 4 best teams make the playoffs. And it introduces a high level of randomness based on geography that the wild card actually mitigates.
   48. TomH Posted: October 29, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4287932)
Face it; the biggest problem is that 30 teams vying for one championship is a problem. Either mediocre teams sometimes make it in, or you get too few 'playoff' teams = less postseason $$.

It would be better if we went back to pre-1961; 8 teams, separate leagues, a pennant is huge, and the WS is a bonus. Like some European systems, The next 8 or 12 or 16 or 20 teams play in a lower league. Winners of lower league swap to the big one, switching with the crummy ones.
   49. AndrewJ Posted: October 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM (#4287954)
Someone online (don't remember who or where) recently proposed this: Play a 132-game regular season, after which the top six teams in each league play a 30-game round-robin (six games against each of the other five teams) while the also-rans have interleague play in September. The winner of the September super-division advances to the World Series which would start around October 1st. You'd have more teams advancing to a "playoff"-type system without pushing the World Series to November.
   50. PreservedFish Posted: October 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM (#4287960)
The Romo vs Cabrera AB reminded me of a showdown between Turk Wendell and Mark McGwire in the late 90s. Wendell was basically the same type of pitcher as Romo, threw an endless number of sliders in the low 80s, especially to righties. Not as good, of course.

Amazingly when I google "Turk Wendell Mark McGwire" it pops right up:

To fan Mark McGwire in the seventh inning, when the Cardinals had the tying run on third base and one out, Turk Wendell needed only his second-best pitch, his fastball ... A reliever never wants to get beat with less than his best ... He struck out McGwire with nothing but fastballs,
   51. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 29, 2012 at 10:37 PM (#4287973)
I remember Matt Holliday hitting a three-run homer in the bottom of the seventh in Game 3, turning what had recently been a 6-0 deficit into 6-5. I also remember Jamey Carroll nearly tying up Game Four with a warning-track shot off Papelbon in the bottom of the ninth.

I also remember Dustin Pedroia hitting about 17 doubles.
   52. zonk Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM (#4288000)
Not that anyone cares, but in my DMB sim league, the Dodgers finished off the Rays in 5. Clayton Kershaw NLCS and WS MVP.


I'm playing an OOTP season now and I've decided to see how much I could piss off the imaginary BBTF posters in OOTP by signing a bunch of guys close to milestones and playing them every day...

My lineup

C Ivan Rodriguez (signed as a FA)
1B Vladimir Guerrero (signed as a FA)
2B Omar Vizquel (waiver claim)
SS Starlin Castro
3B Miguel Tejeda (signed as a FA)
LF Johnny Damon (signed as a FA)
CF Ichiro Suzuki (traded Dempster and spare parts to SEA, getting Ichiro, Marcus Littlewood and Jabari Blash back)
RF Bobby Abreu (traded Soriano and LaHair to LAA getting Abreu, Trevor Bell and Alexi Amarista back)
SP Jamie Moyer (traded spare parts to COL)

I just hit the all-star break...

I-Rod has 2911 hits, Vizquel has 2920, Vlad just recorded his 2700 hit (he's actually having a fine season - 306/348/481 with 12 HRs and 63 RBI and 136 OPS+), Ichiro passed 2500 (he's hitting .347 since coming to Chicago and has an even money shot at 200 hits), Tejeda has a shot, but not a good one, to make it to 2500 hits, was hoping to get Abreu to 300 HRs and 2500 hits - he'll get his 400th SB - but the batting numbers look out of reach. Jamie Moyer is 7-7, actually leading the NL in IP and just twirled an 8 hit shutout to get victory #274.

   53. just plain joe Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4288021)
while the also-rans have interleague play in September


In front of crowds measured in the dozens, if they are lucky.
   54. base ball chick Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4288033)
53. just plain joe Posted: October 29, 2012 at 11:35 PM (#4288021)
while the also-rans have interleague play in September


In front of crowds measured in the dozens, if they are lucky.


- ay-yup
ain't hardly nobody gonna pay ML prices for tix for THAT
   55. Gamingboy Posted: October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4288042)
Triple Crown [X]
(That one seems like it should have been mentioned earlier.


Nobody would have expected that enough to put it on a checklist!
   56. phredbird Posted: October 30, 2012 at 12:24 AM (#4288052)
The 8 divisions with 4 teams format eliminates the "hated" wild card and guarantees that only division winners make the playoffs. But it doesn't guarantee that the 4 best teams make the playoffs. And it introduces a high level of randomness based on geography that the wild card actually mitigates.


i agree. but i think its more important to eliminate the wild card. there will always be a division winner seen as being weaker than an also ran in another division, but no system is perfect. the randomness based on geography doesn't bother me. i don't think the same divisions will always be the strong ones over time.
   57. Jay Z Posted: October 30, 2012 at 01:00 AM (#4288071)
I want a ladder format for playoffs. Everyone makes it. Two worst teams play, then the winner plays #28. Seven game series apiece. They can start playing double headers if they won't get done before the next season starts. No neutral sites.
   58. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 30, 2012 at 01:23 AM (#4288078)
The way to do it, if you really want to do it (and I do not, so take it for what that's worth), is have no interdivisional play whatsoever. Have four separate 7 or 8-team 'leagues' -- National, American, Federal, Continental, each playing the other teams in their league, then have the four champions play.

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