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World Series Game 4 OMNICHATTER! for October 28, 2017

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM | 247 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. shoewizard Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:12 PM (#5564707)
I see some Shawn Green and Paul O'Neill in the Bellinger kid.


Great call...swing looks very shawn green
   202. Man o' Schwar Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:12 PM (#5564708)
Giles Goat-Boy

It would be a great headline tomorrow if this score holds up, though you're in Dennis Miller territory of referencing here.

(I loved it too - my favorite Barth.)
   203. Man o' Schwar Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:12 PM (#5564709)
Speaking of college football, how sad are my NE PA brethren going to be tomorrow? Did PSU blow the game or did tOSU really earn that win?

PSU blew it.
   204. bunyon Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:13 PM (#5564710)
The 1991 WS was the high-water mark WS for me in terms of tense-ness... I don't know how any Twins or Braves fans made it through that serious without medication/a defibrillator.

It changed me as a baseball viewer.
   205. No longer interested in this website Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:14 PM (#5564711)
I'm rooting for a walkoff homer by the Astros shortstop and the headline is:

"Gurriel Conflicted After Home Run by Correan Teammate"
   206. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM (#5564712)
THAT will just about do it.
   207. yo la tengo Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM (#5564713)
I think it is safe to go to bed now
   208. Ziggy's screen name Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:16 PM (#5564714)
I think Jansen can hold this lead.
   209. perros Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5564715)
Meh. I've probably watched Turner in over a hundred games the last four years.

He's older, he's not got a lot of career games there, and he looks the stationary slugger type. But the idea he's a DH at third is dumb. Landsford, I dunno, but my impression watching Turner 100 ganes the past two seasons is he's perfectly cromulent at third, despite various injuries.

Maybe it's 'cos I have a red beard, too.
   210. yo la tengo Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5564716)
Any chance we see Gles again this postseason?
   211. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5564717)
It changed me as a baseball viewer.


bunyon, do tell...

I was in college, and every game of that series was excruciating and I literally had no rooting interest.

Welp, no need to waste your closer tonight...

Man, it's gonna be hard for the Astros to win without any bullpen arms being trusted for high-leverage innings.
   212. shoewizard Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5564718)
oh well
   213. perros Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:19 PM (#5564719)
Nice work, Dodgers. Tomorrow should be just as tense and exciting.

Lot of pressure on Keuchel and Verlander to go good and deep.
   214. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5564720)
Any chance we see Gles again this postseason?


Honestly, I think the answer here is no. We're in Kim territory now. He's looked like a terrified puppy the last two times out. Were I an Astros fan, I'd be a bit concerned that this experience will basically torpedo his usefulness as a pitcher.
   215. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5564721)
Any chance we see Gles again this postseason?


Not unless the Astros are up by 10 or down by 6.
   216. yo la tengo Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5564722)
Why use Jansen with a five run lead?
   217. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM (#5564723)
So Kershaw would be available for maybe 2 IP in a Game 7, right? (He'd be on 2 days' rest.)

Man an epic Game 5 seems to await us. Baseball is a hell of a drug.
   218. No longer interested in this website Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:22 PM (#5564724)
Why use Jansen with a five run lead?


Once you've warm him up that much, you may as well use him. It's essentially like you've used him anyway.
   219. Ziggy's screen name Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM (#5564725)
Not that it matters much, but with a five run lead in the 9th, shouldn't you let the bottom of the bullpen soak up a few outs and rest Jansen?
   220. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM (#5564726)
Man, it sounds like there's a lot of LA fans at this game.
   221. Baldrick Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM (#5564727)
This has been a really wonderful series so far. Hoping we get 7 games, and that the remaining ones live up to what we've seen so far.

After 2016 and 2014, we're really getting spoiled. 2013 was pretty good, too.
   222. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:24 PM (#5564728)
Once you've warm him up that much, you may as well use him. It's essentially like you've used him anyway.


Apparently most closers hate, hate, hare "dry humping"--if they warm up, they want into the game.
   223. yo la tengo Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:26 PM (#5564729)
Kind of meaningless for the score, but Astros hitting Jensen has to be good for them and bad for the Dodgers, right?
   224. Sunday silence Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5564731)
If youre not going to use liriano vs pederson or puig (reverse platoon split) what is the pt of his roster spot?
   225. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5564732)
Yeah, Jansen can't be trusted right now, either.
   226. Hey - you and Tommy Lasorda...I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5564733)
Bregman is earning himself a lot of money this series
   227. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5564734)
After 2016 and 2014, we're really getting spoiled. 2013 was pretty good, too.


These things seem to go in cycles--5-10 years of meh WS followed by 5-10 years of absolute barn burners.
   228. Private Godfrey Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5564735)
I enjoyed that game very much.
   229. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM (#5564736)
If you don't close with Giles tomorrow, who do you go with? Peacock?
   230. Ziggy's screen name Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM (#5564737)
g'night. see you tomorrow.
   231. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:28 PM (#5564738)
Giles was awful, but this loss is on the offense. Undisciplined at bats all game. Never saw so much first pitch swinging.
   232. shoewizard Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM (#5564739)
Kind of meaningless for the score, but Astros hitting Jensen has to be good for them and bad for the Dodgers, right?


If the HR came leading off, maybe. But with two outs, he's just throwing strikes and saying lets go.

I don't think it means very much
   233. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM (#5564741)
So, a big deal was made in game 2 with the dodgers only hits being HR (they eventually got a meaningless single). Well, tonight the Astros got 2 hits, 2 HR.
   234. Sunday silence Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:34 PM (#5564742)
Hey didnt we have the all hits are HRs trivia the uther day? Dont look now but hey it jes happnd.

Coke to misrlou

Welcome to HR derby era
   235. Stormy JE Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM (#5564745)
This was the first World Series game to feature two Jewish players hitting home runs. Take that, Spencer/Sarsour!
   236. perros Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:49 PM (#5564747)
Didn't know Pedersen was Jewish, albeit not a believer.

Really happy to see him succeed. And I can't praise Bregman enough.
   237. perros Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:51 PM (#5564748)
I said Dodgers in six, but the Astros are very, very good, and could win in six themselves. Won't be easy to beat Keuchel and Verlander again.

The difference in the series is the Dodgers superior pen.
   238. Perry Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:52 PM (#5564749)
The 1991 WS was the high-water mark WS for me in terms of tense-ness...


Can only assume you weren't around in 1975. Or 1972, which isn't mentioned nearly as much... 6 one-run games out of 7.
   239. Textbook Editor Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:54 PM (#5564750)
#238-was 3 in 1975, so don't really recall those ;)

1980 was pretty tense too; 1979 was the first WS I really watched/have vivid memories of.
   240. Howie Menckel Posted: October 28, 2017 at 11:59 PM (#5564752)
Astros need 2 W
they have Kuechel and Verlander and McCullers and Peacock and Morton

what other pitching do they need, in a best of 3 with a day off?

if they close and win with that, I will be a lot more impressed than with last year's "cry for help" overmanaging by Maddon and Francona

I'd like to think that Hinch gave the status quo one more chance, up 2-1
but now, they have enough quivers left
   241. Sunday silence Posted: October 29, 2017 at 12:25 AM (#5564755)
Remember when we thought verlander might improve their chances 1 or 2%?
   242. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 29, 2017 at 12:58 AM (#5564757)
This is failing to understand statistics. The Astros getting to the World Series, or winning it, would demonstrate nothing about how their getting Verlander might have increased their chances. We only play the season once. Their winning the World Series not only wouldn't show that getting Verlander increased their chances by .5%, 1%, 2%, or 50%, it also wouldn't show that their chances even were more than 1%. Obviously, in retrospect, their chances of making it to the World Series were 100%, but that's not a fair way to look at it. You don't know what happened when you make a prediction, because you predict before it happens.
   243. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 29, 2017 at 07:41 AM (#5564776)
Speaking of college football, how sad are my NE PA brethren going to be tomorrow? Did PSU blow the game or did tOSU really earn that win?

PSU blew it.


I say the OSU, the better team, wore down the lesser team. The OL of PSU has been dubious all year.
   244. Tony S Posted: October 29, 2017 at 09:14 AM (#5564785)
Last night's game was critical. With Kershaw going today, the Astros are going to have to win twice in LA to take the series.

The contrast between the two teams' offensive approaches couldn't have been any starker yesterday. The Astros have been impatient at the plate since they knocked out Darvish in Game 3, allowing the Dodger pitchers to breeze through innnings unscathed and keeping their pitch counts low enough to make them available for the next game. Last night's eighth inning was the worst; after Reddick's feeble leadoff popup on the second pitch, Gattis hacked at Watson's initial offering and meekly grounded out to short. So the Astros went scoreless -- they've scored three whole runs since the Darvish exit, two of them on solo homers. Meanwhile, the Dodgers in the ninth (after Seager's fortuitous seeing-eye leadoff single, on weak first pitch contact) worked the pitchers, got ahead in the count, and scored five runs to put the game away.

Keuchel's going to have to be pretty much perfect tonight for the Astros to have a chance.

   245. perros Posted: October 29, 2017 at 09:27 AM (#5564787)
Astros need 2 W
they have Kuechel and Verlander and McCullers and Peacock and Morton

If all those guys pitch at the top of their game, yes. But just one gets touched, your choices shrink rapidly. See Dodgers, 2016.

Win tonight, and they're in good sbape.
   246. Howie Menckel Posted: October 29, 2017 at 11:22 AM (#5564799)
this seems important
HOUSTON – Pitchers and coaches from both the Dodgers and Astros complained Saturday night about the World Series baseballs—and this time the controversy is not just about liveliness. They say there is a new problem: the baseballs used in the World Series are slicker than the ones used in the regular season because of a difference in the grain of the leather. The slicker World Series balls particularly make it hard to throw a good slider, they claim.

Darvish lasted only 1 2/3 innings in Game 3, especially because his slider, his signature pitch, was so bad. Darvish threw 14 sliders and did not get a single swing and miss on the pitch. It was the first time in 34 starts this year that Darvish did not get a swing and miss on his slider.

During the regular season, Giles threw his slider 47 percent of the time and held hitters to a .133 batting average with it. But the pitch has been so unreliable in the postseason that Giles threw only two sliders among his eight pitches in Game 4 – both of them balls. Entering a 1-1 game to start the ninth inning, Giles faced three batters and retired none of them. He was charged with three runs and the loss.
   247. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: October 29, 2017 at 12:03 PM (#5564806)
Geesh, that's crazy, Howie.
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