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Friday, July 06, 2012

Would David Glass selling the Royals help the franchise?

I bid two bits!

Michael Engel: Glass is a bogeyman in Kansas City. When the team stinks, man, fans always turn to Glass and demand he sell the team or spend money. Fact is, he’s spent more since Dayton Moore came to town than he had beforehand. He’s invested in a farm system that had been wiped out by bad picks and cheap signings (and that’s partly his fault). But it’s been said by others that if you could change the owner to a guy named Sam Smith over the last six years and he did the exact same things, nobody would complain at all….

Rany Jazayerli: The boring but honest answer is, it depends. If the Royals were sold to a buyer who valued winning over profits, and was willing to spend real money to flesh out this talented roster where they still have holes, they could build a dynasty over the next five to six years. But what made the Glass family ownership so destructive in the early years wasn’t their cheapness - it was their insistence on meddling with baseball operations. That has ended under Dayton Moore.

David and Dan Glass now do little more than sign the checks, and they’ve been willing to sign big checks for amateur talent. Ownership isn’t nearly the problem that most fans think it is.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 06, 2012 at 04:17 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: July 07, 2012 at 04:29 AM (#4175328)
Well ... unless he sells to McCourt or some other cash-strapped, revenue-sucking "financier", it's hard to see how it could hurt.

But, yes, the challenges facing the Royals and the other true small market clubs are endemic to being in a small market, not the ownership.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 07, 2012 at 11:24 AM (#4175421)
David Glass Storms Off During #FanFest Interview

Parkins: In terms of… I means it’s… it’s interesting that you say that and I guess this is the one of the
things that’s been rumored around here recently that we’ve got to ask you about. People are talking
about whether or not you are going to sell after this big event coming to town. (Glass laughing) It’s like
you have this game and then when it’s done then you will sell the team.

Glass: Yeah, that’s stupid. Uhh, I’ve never considered doing that and I would have no idea where that
came from.

Parkins: You would never consider selling the team?

Glass: No.

Parkins: What do you say to fans who would like you to sell the team?

Glass: Uhh, yeah, I’m sorry.


Later...

Parkins: Would you be willing to operate a season at a loss in order to sign a big time….

Glass: We… We’ve done that before and I suppose we’d do it again.

Parkins: We’re talking with Royals owner David Glass here on the Danny Parkins show…. Putting the
microphone down? Oh… oh… alright. Thank you sir for coming on the show he just put the microphone
down and walked away.
   3. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 07, 2012 at 11:28 AM (#4175429)
Sure, but firing Dayton Moore would help more.
   4. Zach Posted: July 07, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4175482)
I'm always pissed off when people insinuate that the Royals would be fine if Glass prioritized winning over profits. It's such a sugar daddy approach to analysis -- if the problem is not having money, the solution is for someone else to provide huge amounts of money for nothing in return!

Also, the fundamental problem with the Royals in the Glass years hasn't been lack of money, it's been lack of talent. During the Allard Baird years, you could easily piss away an extra $20 million a year on the free agent market and still have a crummy team. What they've needed for decades is a functioning minor league pipeline. That's something where an extra $10 million a year can really change the fortunes of a team.

Free agents have their place, but increasing payroll to produce a "winner" is not a viable strategy in Kansas City, and to the extent that it distracts from the minor league pipeline, it's unhelpful and counterproductive.
   5. PreservedFish Posted: July 07, 2012 at 12:19 PM (#4175488)
I'm always pissed off when people insinuate that the Royals would be fine if Glass prioritized winning over profits. It's such a sugar daddy approach to analysis


But isn't a baseball team a sugar daddy approach to investment?
   6. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 07, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4175497)
Zach's got a point there. That's what makes the Moore Era so frustrating; Moore's a Peter Principle guy. Brilliant scouting director, in over his head as a GM, has never shown a hint he has any idea how to assemble a proper major league roster. Yet, post #3 above aside, he's been so successful at procuring good young talent that you really hesitate to fire him for fear his replacement will be worse.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 07, 2012 at 12:40 PM (#4175504)

I'm always pissed off when people insinuate that the Royals would be fine if Glass prioritized winning over profits. It's such a sugar daddy approach to analysis -- if the problem is not having money, the solution is for someone else to provide huge amounts of money for nothing in return!


Ewing Kauffman spoiled us.
   8. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: July 07, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4175520)
I'm always pissed off when people insinuate that the Royals would be fine if Glass prioritized winning over profits. It's such a sugar daddy approach to analysis -- if the problem is not having money, the solution is for someone else to provide huge amounts of money for nothing in return!


Well isn't that exactly how welfare teams like the Royals operate - on the forced largess of popular, successful teams like the New York Yankees?
   9. TerpNats Posted: July 07, 2012 at 01:04 PM (#4175529)
Zach's got a point there. That's what makes the Moore Era so frustrating; Moore's a Peter Principle guy. Brilliant scouting director, in over his head as a GM, has never shown a hint he has any idea how to assemble a proper major league roster. Yet, post #3 above aside, he's been so successful at procuring good young talent that you really hesitate to fire him for fear his replacement will be worse.
It makes you appreciate the job Rizzo has done with the Nats (especially since many D.C. fans wanted Moore, who I believe is a George Mason alumnus, to become GM once MLB sold the franchise). To be sure, landing Strasburg and Harper played a key role, but they didn't help Washington land Gio Gonzalez from the A's. Heck, I'll even give Bowden a slight bit of credit for stabilizing the farm system when the deck was stacked against him.
   10. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 07, 2012 at 01:18 PM (#4175537)
the solution is for someone else to provide huge amounts of money for nothing in return!


You mean like how Young Masters Steinbrenner acquired the Yankees?
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 07, 2012 at 01:21 PM (#4175540)

You mean like how Young Masters Steinbrenner acquired the Yankees?


That's not completely fair, they had to put up with having an insufferable blowhard as a father.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: July 07, 2012 at 01:28 PM (#4175543)
That's not completely fair, they had to put up with having an insufferable blowhard as a father.


C'mon for Yankee fans, that would be considered the nice neighbor next door.

   13. Jim Wisinski Posted: July 07, 2012 at 01:57 PM (#4175562)
You mean like how Young Masters Steinbrenner acquired the Yankees?


Or how they acquired the majority of the funding for their new stadium.

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