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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Tuesday, December 10, 2013Wuerz: Albert Pujols makes eye-opening comments about the CardinalsAs was once asked of Albert Fish…“Where are the needles, Albert?”
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Posted: December 10, 2013 at 09:07 AM | 38 comment(s)
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1. vivaelpujols Posted: December 10, 2013 at 09:28 AM (#4614938)Edit: obvious bias
I don't say you're wrong about the current attitude in StL. But, that has to be heavily conditioned by the events since Pujols left.
If Pujols had put up two MVP-calibre seasons, while leading LAA to a World Series, while StL languished in the second division, people would probably view him differently right now.
Agree with post 1. and also post 2. I do think that the people with animosity towards him are more vocal than their numbers.
As far as the article is concerned, I don't remember his exit being "highly contentious"... there was a little bit of bad blood, but nothing of burned bridges level.
It's more likely that he'll receive a one-day contract.
I think bad feelings towards players subside quickly regardless of their performance. In your scenario, the StL front office is probably by now the bad guy - "They let the greatest Cardinal of all time leave over a few million dollars and instead wasted money on (free agent bust)."
It helps the Cards have been very successful since he left. Had they not had Matt Carpenter and Allan Craig and a few other youngsters to replace Pujols and went into the wilderness for a few seasons, I would guess there would be quite a bit of enmity and blaming of Albert.
I doubt it, Angels offered 40 million more. Only the most entitled fans would blame Pujols for that. Most Cards fans are better than that (cue BFIB bs).
I don't buy that for a second. Any fan base gets upset when a player chooses money over playing for their favorite team. "Why is he all about the money? Doesn't he love our team the way we love our team? Its a privelege!" is a common human reaction. Look at Yankees fans reacting to Cano, Red Sox fans to Ellsbury.
Because the Yankees desperately need another wannabe designated hitter?
You just named the two most entitled fanbases in MLB, so I'm not sure that proves much -:)
Besides who? If Gardner goes away as part of the deal, I see their OF as Soriano/Smellsbury/Beltran.
A-Rod and Jeter probably could use some DH time. So a third baseman or (preferably) a SS who can convincingly fake 3B is better, for maximum flexibility. But this team trotted out Travis Hafner/Vernon Wells at DH for long stretches last year; I don't see a huge DH logjam.
Cardinals: We see you as a 7 WAR player who will decline to a 1 WAR player by the 10th year and we are willing to pay XXXX for that. That's is what players with your value are worth on the open market. Look at so and so....and so and so.
Angels: We see you as an icon and want you as part of our family 10 years after you retire. Bring us the highest offer you get and we'll add $30M to it and make you an Angel for life.
And don't the Angels already have Bourjos, Trout and Hamilton?
Of course when you sign a pre-arb extension you only get one offer, but this made me think about Andrew McCutchen. He signed a longer extension than he had to and will be paid a fraction of his value for another five years. Had he refused the extension he'd be lined up to get $350 million, at least, from the Yankees next winter. I wonder whether he regrets signing the extension. I'm sure his agent does.
Beltran will require ample DH time too. Taking on Pujols without jettisoning Teix first seems silly.
Let's assume McCutchen's 2014 is somewhat, but not very much, weaker than his 2013. He'd be hitting free agency at 28 and coming off a string of three straight MVP-caliber seasons, and he's a center fielder with plenty of bat to move down the spectrum when he gets old. You don't think he gets 12 years at $30 million per from somebody? I think he would get at least that much.
I do not. 10 years and around 250 would be about the highest I'd expect to see.
What about Harper and Trout? Would they get 12 years and $350M. I have to think Trout would.
Assuming Trout maintains his current level of performance into his FA, he would do better than 12/$350M, and he'd deserve it.
Agreed. This is completely unprofessional and inappropriate. Pujols is being paid like a CEO. The least he can do is have his baseball playing loyalties 100% directed towards the Angels for the duration of his employ.
I would think Cards fans would be ecstatic that Pujols didn't accept the team's offer at this point. That is looking to be one mighty bad contract.
With Tokyo.
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