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Thursday, August 04, 2011

Yahoo: Cards C Molina suspended 5 games for umpire run-in

St. Louis catcher Yadier Molina decided not to appeal a five-game suspension for bumping an umpire and spraying him with spittle, saying the punishment was fair.

The Cardinals’ schedule and Molina’s sore hand made the decision easier to sit out now… Molina will return from his suspension Wednesday.

“I was looking at it like, take it right away,” he said. “You want to be part of the race. It’s better to do it now and get it done with and move on.”

Another factor in the decision not to appeal was the bruise on the palm of Molina’s right hand. The injury occurred when he blocked a pitch Wednesday, and he said it likely would have kept him out of two or three games anyway.

NTNgod Posted: August 04, 2011 at 09:54 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Justin T drives a crooked hoss Posted: August 04, 2011 at 10:18 PM (#3892997)
That's about right, assuming this means he'll sit for 4 after his appeal. He was way out of line.
   2. Guts Posted: August 04, 2011 at 10:37 PM (#3893003)
That strike zone was REALLY bad. But yeah, no problems with this.
   3. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 04, 2011 at 10:38 PM (#3893005)
That's about right, assuming this means he'll sit for 4 after his appeal. He was way out of line.


He's not appealing, likely because he could use the rest (or so says the excerpt).
   4. Srul Itza Posted: August 04, 2011 at 10:39 PM (#3893006)
I don't think he is appealing (what Molina is . . .).

If he does appeal, then the suspension does not start right away, and he still misses the games with the bruise.

If he doesn't appeal, the suspension starts now, and as he would be sitting out 2 or 3 games, then the effective suspension is only 2 to 3 games
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2011 at 11:02 PM (#3893015)
Before the suspension was issued Molina was considering not appealing anyway,

The suspension seems about right. I still can't figure out how Theriot only got two game(one after appeal) for his blow up. I think all suspensions for on field actions should have a minimum of 3 games.
   6. asdf1234 Posted: August 04, 2011 at 11:11 PM (#3893018)
I wonder whether known injuries are ever factors in suspension length, as Theriot received only two games (reduced to one on appeal) for a similar, spittle-free blowup last month. But whatever--Molina was on pace to catch 140+ games prior to the suspension anyway.

Naturally, where Molina at least went ballistic on a terrible call, Theriot screamed, bumped, and gesticulated over one that the ump got right.
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: August 04, 2011 at 11:33 PM (#3893033)
Naturally, where Molina at least went ballistic on a terrible call, Theriot screamed, bumped, and gesticulated over one that the ump got right.


Maybe the decision was that allowing us to keep Theriot in the lineup is the teams punishment.

That also brings up a point, if you argue and are right shouldn't you get better treatment on appeal than if the umpire is right? or should it be just based entirely on your attitude at the time.
   8. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 04, 2011 at 11:37 PM (#3893037)
I know I'm way behind on this, but was there ever a good explanation forthcoming for why Molina went *so* completely bonkers? Was it really just boiled over frustration from a bad strike zone all day?
   9. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: August 04, 2011 at 11:46 PM (#3893049)
They should add a couple games for those neck tattoos, as a violation of good taste.
   10. Justin T drives a crooked hoss Posted: August 05, 2011 at 12:45 AM (#3893086)
Drake's zone in that game was about average. Which means it was bad, admittedly, but that zone goes by without incident nearly all of the time. The other weird thing about the situation is that it was Marcum who was trying to get that pitch called a strike all night. (And some umps would have given it to him, which would have made things worse.) The ringing up of Molina was really the first time all night a ball in that spot had been a strike. Which means it was a terrible call, but it doesn't seem like the frustration about it should have boiled over for Molina.

I think there had to have been a lot of conversation during the game that we obviously do not know about. And I think Drake is one of the bigger dicks among the umpires. I have felt this since the first time I learned that he existed, when he threw Piniella out of a Sunday night game when Piniella went out to talk to the first base ump about a check swing call and Drake threw him out from home, many many feet from where a completely innocuous and brief conversation went on.
   11. Justin T drives a crooked hoss Posted: August 05, 2011 at 12:46 AM (#3893087)
And yes I am a dumbass for missing that he wasn't appealing. Didn't seem like an excerpt that required much attention.
   12. asinwreck Posted: August 05, 2011 at 12:58 AM (#3893101)
Is Yadier having roid rage this week? What the hell is going on?
   13. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 05, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3893122)
It was barely inside but to Justin's point that pitch had NOT been called all night UNTIL Molina got rung up.

And that strike zone was consistent and not ridiculously bad. The Brewers series against the Giants had BAD strike zones. Strike zones that grew as the game got late. I think Brian Wilson could have thrown the ball over the backstop and gotten a strike called in the game that Sunday.

Anyway, Molina went beserk and should be glad he is not sitting for twice as long.

As for the Cards, good thing they got that worthless SOB Rasmus out of the clubhouse. Crisis averted!
   14. SouthSideRyan Posted: August 05, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3893147)
Is Yadier having roid rage this week? What the hell is going on?


How dare you insinuate a charge of Tony LaRussa's would be on steroids.
   15. All Sleepy knows is what's on the internet Posted: August 05, 2011 at 05:45 AM (#3893228)
harveys- if you look at the strike zone plot on brooks baeball, STL batters got screwed all night, or at least, a bunch of times (7 Brewers pitches called strikes that were way out of the zone, vs 1, maybe 2, for STL pitchers) and according to brooks baseball, that pitch was something on the order of 6 inches inside. On the mlb gameday view, it was over the chalk, and breaking "more inside" at a 26 degree angle. The ump just plain blew it, badly.

Yadi was way out of line in acting the way he acted, but let's not pretend that wasn't a really bad call. There was also a blown call on the basepaths by Drake in the previous game, and two previous borderline third strike calls with Cardinals' RISP, so that probably contributed to the stress factor.
   16. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: August 05, 2011 at 06:15 AM (#3893233)
I would welcome a lengthy suspension for Theriot. 40 game sounds about right.
   17. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 05, 2011 at 09:04 AM (#3893241)
sleepy

That is the chart my grandson sent me and this is a case where the TV angle creates one huge optical illusion because I have seen that replay several times and at worst it appears borderline.

The constant rationalizations on behalf of Molina and LaRussa is getting wearisome.

That it has even infected BBTF is even more disappointing. Everybody is running around going, "Yes, they are insane. BUT they have reason to be insane!"

What a bunch of bullsh*t.

Done talking about it.
   18. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: August 05, 2011 at 10:06 AM (#3893243)
The Cardinals did get screwed by some bad calls, but it's also true they cried about it way more than any other team in baseball. The Pirates probably got screwed much worse, twice this past week in games and they took both blows like champs compared to the cry baby Cardinals.
   19. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 05, 2011 at 02:26 PM (#3893317)
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy...
   20. asdf1234 Posted: August 05, 2011 at 05:59 PM (#3893456)
It's not a well-kept secret among Cardinal fans that Molina has the perpetual red ass.

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