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Wednesday, October 21, 2009
Well…since Decca chose The Tremeloes at least..
Why McClelland possibly decided that Cano was safe despite not touching the bag until after being tagged is beyond this galaxy’s rules of logic and it sent Angel Stadium into a bloodthirsty frenzy. There are simply no words for the ruling, other to say that McClelland shouldn’t ump another game in this series and that Bud Selig has to stop being stubborn and expand the use of instant replay past home run calls.
Simply put, this shouldn’t be happening, especially only one day after it looked like the 2009 postseason had turned the corner with two superb endings in both LCS games.
That McClelland’s mistake was minimized by the subsequent out by Melky Cabrera(notes) — the Yankees scored no runs off the snafu — is irrelevant. In the fourth inning, McClelland also made a mistake when he ruled that Swisher left third base early while attempting to score on a sacrifice fly. He’ll at least have second base umpire Dale Scott as a partner in commiseration, though, because Swisher was picked off at second earlier in the inning and shouldn’t have even been at third. But that call, of course, was also blown.
Almost makes you yearn for the foul line ineptitude of Phll Cuzzi, doesn’t it?
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Edit: Looking at the comments from my blog entry on the game before, Young screwed up a check swing call where Papi obviously swung and should have struck out. It cost the Angels a few runs when Ortiz went on to single.
But the bad calls in the playoffs have been more frequent, and it's not like they've just been replacing the garden variety bad calls (balls and strikes, bang-bang plays at first base, tag plays on pick-offs) with major errors. They're still making all of the garden variety bad calls too. It's like they've upped the ante in a very short period of time.
Cuzzi may blow it, but we don't notice.
How in the world does the home plate ump not see that play?
I refereed touch football for years. It's an endless succession of tag plays and trying to get into the right position to see the attempted tag and something else. I have tremendous sympathy in general for umps on tag plays but none for McClelland's lack of work.
Tag up play though shouldn't be that tough. You need to be down the line just to the inside (best angle for any fair/foul call without getting in the way) and pick up the runner with your ... well it's not peripheral vision, but I think you know what I mean.
The call on Swisher leaving 3rd was awful. You absolutely, positively cannot get that call wrong, since the penalty to the wronged team is so high. If there's any ambiguity in your mind, you let it go.
All those calls were crapistic, but in my lifetime I've seen a couple of similar calls to "Swisher left third too soon".
But to see a player be tagged while standing clearly off the base and making no attempt even to reach it, and to call him "safe"---IMO that takes the all-time booby prize, regardless of context.
The only explanation I can think of is that he got confused with the situation where BOTH runners were standing on the base, in which case only one of them would have been out. Which doesn't remove the dumbness factor one iota.
Or hell, maybe he thought this was one of those "unofficial rules" situations, and that Posada and Cano "could have stepped on third if they'd wanted to." I wouldn't put anything past that umpire.
Can you say Don Denkinger.
I can, but it's not remotely close to McClelland's gaffe, regardless of the outcome.
No, once Posada possessed third after the double and the pitcher goes to deliver his next pitch, Posada cannot regress from 3rd base. If they both occupy 3rd, the preceding runner has right to the bag.
On at least two calls and probably three, definitely, absolutely worse than in the regular season.
I can see how McClelland might have gotten crossed up by the play. But my only explanation for Cuzzi's "gaffe" is that he had Vegas money on the game.
Do we know that he didn't?
There have been three or four comments to that effect. Where were the other umpires? Couldn't someone overrule McClelland?
The answer is that, by rule, no umpire can change another umpire's call. What can happen is the umpire making the original call can ask for help, and a manager can try to prevail upon him to do that. But the umpire doesn't have to ask for help, and another umpire can't just walk up and say, "Tim, you blew the call." (See Rule 9.02(c). Check swings are the specific exception.)
Are you surprised? I thought he had a pretty good reputation.
I know that their calls can not be changed by another umpire, but can another ump walk over and say: Hey Tim, I suggest you ask for my help on this one *hint* *hint*, or is that not allowed by the rule? very frustrating
I think it's a little of both, actually; while the calls this particular postseason have been so uniformly terrible, they come on the heels of maybe the worst-umpired regular season I can recall seeing. It's like for the last seven months MLB umpires have secretly been working for the Pac 10.
AJ Pierzynski just called Tim McClellan "the best umpire in all of baseball" on TV.
I'd have thought he woulda touted Eddings.
This seems like a pretty simple fix: give managers the right to "challenge" one call a game that forces the umpires to confer and come to an agreement. There's no need to look at replays, so it should a minimal time drag on the game, and the umpires won't be forced to double-check with their colleagues on every single close play.
Of course the original umpire's ego might prevent them from ever changing a call, but it's better than nothing. Umpires have at least been more forthcoming about admitting their mistakes after the games, which is a nice change from the Rich Garcia days.
I'm not a fan of using instant replay for calls that affect the flow of the game (catch/trap calls and the like), because then the umpires have to make an educated guess as to what *might* have happened had the call gone the other way and I don't like the idea of them having to reconstruct likely outcomes. I can see using it on the McClelland plays last night, because those didn't really affect where any other runner might have ended up.
-- MWE
If I had a vote for HoF, which I obviously don't, but if I did, all I know is: Spit on umpire. ###### up 2 calls. No, and no.
Exactamente. (Emphasis added.) Now that is shot forever.
I'm tellin' ya. He looked sick. There's something wrong with the guy. Watch for an announcement.
The result is that we are having a discussion over umpiring and what should be done, and not a massive dispute over how their actions turned around a game or a series.
For the umpires to throw that game to the Angels, they would have had to call everything thrown by Scott Kazmir a strike, even if it was 2 feet off the plate. Anything caught by an Angel on a bounce an out, and anything hit by A-Rod would have had to have been called foul. It was only slightly less lopsided than C.C.'s former teammate taking down the Dodgers.
I'm on board with getting instant replay involved. Wanting better umpiring is great but that's kind of like wanting a more efficient government, or bankers who are less greedy. I'm sure the umps feel like crap when they see their horrible calls up on the jumbotron. Just give them a chance to use the technology to get the calls right.
Emotionally I am with you. But there is something extremely wrong when the umpire is on the field defending his call and everyone else in the world can clearly see he is wrong.
This. A thousand times this. The problem with instant replay is it will make things much, much, worse by parsing the details even finer. There is no doubt in my mind that the caliber of the officiating in the NFL both in terms of the actual calls and in terms of the interpretation of the rules has become worse because of instant replay.
What I would like is a revision of the rulebook to make things less precise and hence easier to call. Instead of trying to figure out whether the foot hit the bag first or the ball the glove, lets go back to tie goes to the runner. Instead of trying to figure out if Swisher left a nanosecond early, how about unless it's obvious call him safe.
Look at how trying to split the atom on these calls has ruined the NFL. If we're outside playing catch we have no problem defining whether someone caught a ball. The NFL, on the other hand, has to invent ridiculous rules to define what is, and is not, a catch. The result is a rulebook that is impossible to enforce and a league in which the most important factor in determining winning and losing is what arbitrary calls the referee makes.
Or go back to baseball. We have a problem with determining what is, and is not, a homerun. For those of us who played baseball in parks with fences this is a preposterous notion. Instead of divising an absurd replay system that is designed to fail to figure out this perplexing question why don't you build a ####### fence that makes it so this never happens.
In all of these cases the problem is a result of increasing complexity. Instant replay doesn't simplify or clarify these issues it complicates them by adding the number of factors that need to be considered. If the problem is complexity you don't make it any better by making things more complex.
I know I'm fighting the dying of the light on this one but there is no way that instant replay will make baseball better. This isn't even one of my anti-technology arguments. I'd be in favour of a pitch clock and automated balls and strikes. Both of those innovations would simplify the job of arbitration. Instant replay, on the other hand, is a ########### of epic proportions for the lame brained looking for an easy fix.
That is also the attitude of Roberto Alomar, who WILL have a Veterans Committee vote pretty soon.
This is the first season of replay. So, they aren't in total control anymore. Furthermore, that idiot told Jeter "he doesn't have to tag you, it's enough that the throw beat you", which alerted the public and mass media that really, umpires have their own rules, which aren't in the rulebook. Next came those blown calls in postseason, specially that fair/foul ball (it was in 5 - 6 inches; trying to judge where the ball has hit from such a close distance while following a ball and fielder, instead of being focused only on the line is really hard, specially for those who don't call them all the time - foul/fair judges should never be so close to the actual play, and should be trained to focus on the line, which would mean they wouldn't be able to see if the ball hit the fielder). On top of everything, they are negotiating a new CBA. It seems to me that the umpires are nervous. And that means they are thinking and analyzing everything, instead of reacting instinctively. I have seen plenty of games in European football where referees became unsure. From that point, they would have greater chance getting the calls right just by sitting at the sidelines and flipping the coin than actually doing their job. The best thing would be to just say to themselves "f- everything, I'll call them as always, and if I miss, well, you can't get them all", but instead they are overanalyzing and getting more calls wrong.
Of course, one could make an argument that the Yankees might not have scored those uncontested runs if Layne hadn't been calling an extremely tight strike zone (which was floating around a bit, too).
-- MWE
What umpires have good reputations nowadays?
Yeah, but that's fun.
The Angels were contesting it a lot in the early part of the game.
-- MWE
The Angels contest every strikezone. Nobody whines more than Scioscia. He has no shame. He'll complain about not getting the call on inside pitches. I always wonder how I he can see from the side whether a ball is inside or over the plate. It's physically impossible. The sad thing is that I'm quite sure it works.
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