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Thursday, March 22, 2001

Yahoo! Sports: MLB - Reds give Yankees another chance to sign Henson

The use of the term “rich history” by Henson seems apropos here.  Also, I think Joe Kay misunderstands what it means to have Pena under contract.  That is actually a bad thing to have him with a major league contract.  They have far less flexibility with him than they would otherwise.

Sean Forman Posted: March 22, 2001 at 12:44 PM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#66100)
Good point Sean, I don't think anyone realizes that if Pena is a big leaguer for good in 2003 he'll have to be waived.

I especially like the part where Bowden says he could be another Sammy Sosa. Does anyone have Sammy's 18/19 year old minor league stats handy? It'd be nice to compare them with Willy Mo's 1999/2000.

Tough call for Henson though. Any thoughts as to which sport he's REALLY better at? Is he more Elway or Schmidt? I obviously don't think he's as good as either, but you know what I mean. We pretty much know what he is as a baseball prospect, B+, needs work, ton of potential. Anybody out there that actually knows football well have a thought or two?
   2. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#66360)
Good point Sean, I don't think anyone realizes that if Pena is a big leaguer for good in 2003 he'll have to be waived.

I especially like the part where Bowden says he could be another Sammy Sosa. Does anyone have Sammy's 18/19 year old minor league stats handy? It'd be nice to compare them with Willy Mo's 1999/2000.

Tough call for Henson though. Any thoughts as to which sport he's REALLY better at? Is he more Elway or Schmidt? I obviously don't think he's as good as either, but you know what I mean. We pretty much know what he is as a baseball prospect, B+, needs work, ton of potential. Anybody out there that actually knows football well have a thought or two?
   3. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#66900)
Good point Sean, I don't think anyone realizes that if Pena is a big leaguer for good in 2003 he'll have to be waived.

I especially like the part where Bowden says he could be another Sammy Sosa. Does anyone have Sammy's 18/19 year old minor league stats handy? It'd be nice to compare them with Willy Mo's 1999/2000.

Tough call for Henson though. Any thoughts as to which sport he's REALLY better at? Is he more Elway or Schmidt? I obviously don't think he's as good as either, but you know what I mean. We pretty much know what he is as a baseball prospect, B+, needs work, ton of potential. Anybody out there that actually knows football well have a thought or two?
   4. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#67686)
Good point Sean, I don't think anyone realizes that if Pena is a big leaguer for good in 2003 he'll have to be waived.

I especially like the part where Bowden says he could be another Sammy Sosa. Does anyone have Sammy's 18/19 year old minor league stats handy? It'd be nice to compare them with Willy Mo's 1999/2000.

Tough call for Henson though. Any thoughts as to which sport he's REALLY better at? Is he more Elway or Schmidt? I obviously don't think he's as good as either, but you know what I mean. We pretty much know what he is as a baseball prospect, B+, needs work, ton of potential. Anybody out there that actually knows football well have a thought or two?
   5. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#66101)
Should say "if Pena is NOT a big leaguer for good" above.
   6. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#66361)
Should say "if Pena is NOT a big leaguer for good" above.
   7. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#66901)
Should say "if Pena is NOT a big leaguer for good" above.
   8. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:13 PM (#67687)
Should say "if Pena is NOT a big leaguer for good" above.
   9. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:16 PM (#66102)
I meant the Sosa comment in jest by the way, Bowden's dreaming, or maybe he thinks he got Carlos . . . after re-reading I'm not sure if it came across that way . . .
   10. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:16 PM (#66362)
I meant the Sosa comment in jest by the way, Bowden's dreaming, or maybe he thinks he got Carlos . . . after re-reading I'm not sure if it came across that way . . .
   11. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:16 PM (#66902)
I meant the Sosa comment in jest by the way, Bowden's dreaming, or maybe he thinks he got Carlos . . . after re-reading I'm not sure if it came across that way . . .
   12. scruff Posted: March 22, 2001 at 06:16 PM (#67688)
I meant the Sosa comment in jest by the way, Bowden's dreaming, or maybe he thinks he got Carlos . . . after re-reading I'm not sure if it came across that way . . .
   13. All you Need is Glove Posted: March 23, 2001 at 08:50 PM (#66107)
According to Mel Kiper Jr., he is odds on to be the overall #1 draft pick for the NFL draft in 2002. Anybody who has followed football the last few years knows that means 5-8 year contract valued at 50-75 million including signing bonus. I was upset when I saw this trade announced by ESPN as the sports anchor said it was a foregone conclusion that Henson would miss forgoe his senior year to play with the Yankees. From everything I have read on him since he was a senior in High School, being a starting quarterback for University of Michigan has ALWAYS been his goal in life and in many interviews he brings up the bendfit he feels about living this dream when questioned about his other options. However, he never has publicly mentioned PRO Football when speaking of dreams or aspirations. He has mentioned baseball.
   14. All you Need is Glove Posted: March 23, 2001 at 08:50 PM (#66367)
According to Mel Kiper Jr., he is odds on to be the overall #1 draft pick for the NFL draft in 2002. Anybody who has followed football the last few years knows that means 5-8 year contract valued at 50-75 million including signing bonus. I was upset when I saw this trade announced by ESPN as the sports anchor said it was a foregone conclusion that Henson would miss forgoe his senior year to play with the Yankees. From everything I have read on him since he was a senior in High School, being a starting quarterback for University of Michigan has ALWAYS been his goal in life and in many interviews he brings up the bendfit he feels about living this dream when questioned about his other options. However, he never has publicly mentioned PRO Football when speaking of dreams or aspirations. He has mentioned baseball.
   15. All you Need is Glove Posted: March 23, 2001 at 08:50 PM (#66907)
According to Mel Kiper Jr., he is odds on to be the overall #1 draft pick for the NFL draft in 2002. Anybody who has followed football the last few years knows that means 5-8 year contract valued at 50-75 million including signing bonus. I was upset when I saw this trade announced by ESPN as the sports anchor said it was a foregone conclusion that Henson would miss forgoe his senior year to play with the Yankees. From everything I have read on him since he was a senior in High School, being a starting quarterback for University of Michigan has ALWAYS been his goal in life and in many interviews he brings up the bendfit he feels about living this dream when questioned about his other options. However, he never has publicly mentioned PRO Football when speaking of dreams or aspirations. He has mentioned baseball.
   16. All you Need is Glove Posted: March 23, 2001 at 08:50 PM (#67693)
According to Mel Kiper Jr., he is odds on to be the overall #1 draft pick for the NFL draft in 2002. Anybody who has followed football the last few years knows that means 5-8 year contract valued at 50-75 million including signing bonus. I was upset when I saw this trade announced by ESPN as the sports anchor said it was a foregone conclusion that Henson would miss forgoe his senior year to play with the Yankees. From everything I have read on him since he was a senior in High School, being a starting quarterback for University of Michigan has ALWAYS been his goal in life and in many interviews he brings up the bendfit he feels about living this dream when questioned about his other options. However, he never has publicly mentioned PRO Football when speaking of dreams or aspirations. He has mentioned baseball.
   17. Alan Posted: March 26, 2001 at 08:40 AM (#66108)
Just a comment about the likelihood of Pena making the big leagues. I think he definitely has the talent to be a big-league player, but at this point his lack of plate discipline really concerns me. Additionally, when you compare him to Henson you are talking about around a 1.5 yr difference in age and Henson has already performed well at the AA level.

Interesting that the Reds now have the last three great 'tools' prospects from the Yankees - Rivera, Melian and Pena. My guess is that Melian has the best chance at this point to make the bigs and have a big impact. At worst his defense in Center should be able to carve out a big-league career for him and he was showing signs of being a passable hitter in Norwich last year. The attribute that all three have that could help them out is the ability to play defense.

Would have I liked to have kept Pena if I'm the Yankees, absolutely. Would I rather have Henson - definitely.
   18. Alan Posted: March 26, 2001 at 08:40 AM (#66368)
Just a comment about the likelihood of Pena making the big leagues. I think he definitely has the talent to be a big-league player, but at this point his lack of plate discipline really concerns me. Additionally, when you compare him to Henson you are talking about around a 1.5 yr difference in age and Henson has already performed well at the AA level.

Interesting that the Reds now have the last three great 'tools' prospects from the Yankees - Rivera, Melian and Pena. My guess is that Melian has the best chance at this point to make the bigs and have a big impact. At worst his defense in Center should be able to carve out a big-league career for him and he was showing signs of being a passable hitter in Norwich last year. The attribute that all three have that could help them out is the ability to play defense.

Would have I liked to have kept Pena if I'm the Yankees, absolutely. Would I rather have Henson - definitely.
   19. Alan Posted: March 26, 2001 at 08:40 AM (#66908)
Just a comment about the likelihood of Pena making the big leagues. I think he definitely has the talent to be a big-league player, but at this point his lack of plate discipline really concerns me. Additionally, when you compare him to Henson you are talking about around a 1.5 yr difference in age and Henson has already performed well at the AA level.

Interesting that the Reds now have the last three great 'tools' prospects from the Yankees - Rivera, Melian and Pena. My guess is that Melian has the best chance at this point to make the bigs and have a big impact. At worst his defense in Center should be able to carve out a big-league career for him and he was showing signs of being a passable hitter in Norwich last year. The attribute that all three have that could help them out is the ability to play defense.

Would have I liked to have kept Pena if I'm the Yankees, absolutely. Would I rather have Henson - definitely.
   20. Alan Posted: March 26, 2001 at 08:40 AM (#67694)
Just a comment about the likelihood of Pena making the big leagues. I think he definitely has the talent to be a big-league player, but at this point his lack of plate discipline really concerns me. Additionally, when you compare him to Henson you are talking about around a 1.5 yr difference in age and Henson has already performed well at the AA level.

Interesting that the Reds now have the last three great 'tools' prospects from the Yankees - Rivera, Melian and Pena. My guess is that Melian has the best chance at this point to make the bigs and have a big impact. At worst his defense in Center should be able to carve out a big-league career for him and he was showing signs of being a passable hitter in Norwich last year. The attribute that all three have that could help them out is the ability to play defense.

Would have I liked to have kept Pena if I'm the Yankees, absolutely. Would I rather have Henson - definitely.

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