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Tuesday, September 26, 2017

Yankees Aaron Judge sets MLB rookie HR record | MLB.com

He is the fifth player in Yankees history to hit 50 home runs in a season, joining Babe Ruth (four times), Mickey Mantle (twice), Roger Maris and Alex Rodriguez.

Jim Furtado Posted: September 26, 2017 at 08:23 AM | 42 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 26, 2017 at 10:46 AM (#5539057)
He and Bellinger break their respective league record in the same year. Juiced ball but still pretty crazy.
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 26, 2017 at 10:51 AM (#5539065)
And for their brief careers, Judge's 49 home runs per 162 games is actually one below Gary Sanchez's 50.
   3. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 26, 2017 at 10:55 AM (#5539076)
He and Bellinger break their respective league record in the same year. Juiced ball but still pretty crazy.


In addition:

New Marlins and Royals team records

Cubs set a record for most players 25 or younger with 20+ HR (5)


   4. Booey Posted: September 26, 2017 at 11:07 AM (#5539091)
Helluva fun and impressive accomplishment for Judge. I always thought McGwire's rookie record was terribly underrated and basically unbreakable. Pleasantly surprised to be wrong.
   5. Bote Man Posted: September 26, 2017 at 11:23 AM (#5539113)
Barry Bonds could not be reached for comment.
   6. Scott Ross Posted: September 26, 2017 at 12:20 PM (#5539206)
Judge has also set rookie records for BB and SO -- he's your new TTO King.
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 26, 2017 at 01:32 PM (#5539293)
Some other Judge nuggets:
At the completion of Monday's game, Judge owns a .620 slugging percentage and a .418 on-base percentage with 124 runs scored and 120 walks to go along with his 50 round-trippers. The only players to hit all those numbers over a full season in the history of modern baseball are Ruth (four times), Foxx and Hank Greenberg in 1938, Mantle in 1961, McGwire in 1998 and Barry Bonds in 2001.
. . .
Judge is on pace to be the third rookie ever to post an OBP above .400 and a SLG above .600 in more than 500 plate appearances, joining Albert Pujols (2001) and Ted Williams (1939). Judge is also the third rookie to score 120 runs and drive in 100 more. The only other two to do it are Williams and Joe DiMaggio (1936).

Additionally, Judge is on pace to become only the sixth player in modern history to combine 50 homers with at least 120 walks and an OBP above .400. The five others: Ruth (again four times), Mantle in 1961, McGwire in 1998-99, Bonds in 2001 and Thome in 2002.

Not to go all Tim Kurkjian, but MLB has been around a long time and Judge is doing some things never, or rarely, seen. That's some illustrious company there. You need more than one season to be sure, but Judge's September surge increases the possibility that he's really MLB's Next Big Thing - a perennial All-Star on a path to Cooperstown.
   8. DCA Posted: September 26, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5539306)
Judge has also set rookie records for BB and SO -- he's your new TTO King.

Not a rookie, but Jim Thome has a comparable age 25 season. 311/450/612, 122 R, 116 RBI, also a 167 OPS+, also 5.4 WAA per B-R.

So let's not get into Ruth/Foxx territory just yet. Thome seems like an appropriate offensive comp: lots of power, lots of walks, lots of strikeouts, similar performance at the same age.
   9. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 26, 2017 at 01:49 PM (#5539308)
At the completion of Monday's game, Judge owns a .620 slugging percentage and a .418 on-base percentage with 124 runs scored and 120 walks to go along with his 50 round-trippers. The only players to hit all those numbers over a full season in the history of modern baseball are Ruth (four times), Foxx and Hank Greenberg in 1938, Mantle in 1961, McGwire in 1998 and Barry Bonds in 2001.


While these lists are fun, they are also a bit silly. Compare Judge to Sosa in 2001:

Judge:

.620
.418
124
120
50

Sosa:

.737
.437
146
116
64

Sosa blows Judge away in 4 of the 5 categories, but becuase he has 4 fewer walks, Judge is on the list and Sosa isn't. Or Luis Gonzales in 2001 who beats Judge in the same 4 but had only 100 walks. Ditto Hack Wilson who had only 105 walks. Or David Ortiz who had a mere 119. Or Ralph Kiner who had 117.
   10. RJ in TO Posted: September 26, 2017 at 02:08 PM (#5539331)
New Marlins and Royals team records


The Royals team record should not be a sign of anything, as the old record was 36, and the new record is only 38, which are both shockingly low for a franchise that's been around for about 50 years.
   11. Captain Supporter Posted: September 26, 2017 at 02:08 PM (#5539332)
Compare Judge to Sosa in 2001


Yeah, and then think about what Judge would be like if he was juiced to the gills.
   12. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 26, 2017 at 02:13 PM (#5539338)
I like Judge a lot, but his home/road splits are significant. McGwire's were nearly opposite, as you would expect. And the fact he's breaking through age 25 knocks him down a peg or two historically.

Regardless, his September goes a long way towards restoring the lustre on a terrific season.
   13. jmurph Posted: September 26, 2017 at 02:13 PM (#5539340)
Yeah, and then think about what Judge would be like if he was juiced to the gills.

Honestly, the fact that he's doing this with gills, period, should be a bigger news story, just my opinion.
   14. dejarouehg Posted: September 26, 2017 at 02:45 PM (#5539378)
I'm little tired of not being able to dislike Yankees players. (Still can't stand the team.)

I love watching this guy play (and Didi, and Sanchez), though I admit I would have sent him down mid-slump.

I'm also a little ticked that he set the record yesterday. Was figuring on going tonight through Thursday in the hopes of seeing him hit his 50th.
   15. Khrushin it bro Posted: September 26, 2017 at 03:27 PM (#5539412)
I love watching this guy play (and Didi, and Sanchez)


Sanchez came off looking pretty bad in that scuffle with the Tigers. Let the hate flow!
   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 26, 2017 at 03:39 PM (#5539421)
Was figuring on going tonight through Thursday in the hopes of seeing him hit his 50th.

That does illustrate Judge's affect on attendance - you can take in any game with the feeling that you might see Judge hit a HR. Or two. It's hard to separate the Judge effect from the Yankees just winning more often this year, but both should do a lot for the Yankees revenue over the next few years.
   17. villageidiom Posted: September 26, 2017 at 04:44 PM (#5539469)
Yeah, and then think about what Judge would be like if he was juiced to the gills.
OK, since you insist.

When I think about what Judge would be like if he was juiced to the gills, I'd have to think about him having been juiced to the gills for quite some time now. It's not like he underwent a miraculous physical transformation recently.

Setting aside Judge for the moment...

Boys' growth plates lock around age 15 or 16, so the best opportunity to use hGh for optimal physical gain is before that. Instead of simply aiding in muscle gain it produces a taller frame, which would then aid in future muscle development. But it would have to be done at the right age, before growth plates lock. If we were looking for evidence of this kind of use, we'd probably make a list of boys heavy into athletics who were freakishly tall (particularly relative to their families) before high school, and proceed from there.

Getting back to Judge... His having been about 6'4" in middle school would put him on the list, but that's not evidence he was using back then, mind you. We don't know how tall his birth family was, for starters, so we don't know if he hails from a very tall genetic line. And merely being on a list of people that likely includes users is not evidence that he was (or is) a user. I know that second point has often been denied vehemently by Yankees fans in the last decade or so, so I hope I'm not generating any controversy among them by insisting that this is not evidence that Judge was juiced to the gills at an early age.

But if I were to picture Judge juiced to the gills, per your request, I'd think of him turning out roughly as he is right now.
   18. DanG Posted: September 26, 2017 at 04:53 PM (#5539474)
BB-Ref gives this list of rookies with 35+ homers:

Player                   HR RBI OPSWAR/  PA Year Age  Tm
Aaron Judge              50 108  167  7.6 656 2017  25 NYY
Mark McGwire 
(RoY-1st)   49 118  164  5.1 641 1987  23 OAK
Cody Bellinger           39  94  146  4.2 527 2017  21 LAD
Frank Robinson 
(RoY-1st38  83  143  6.5 667 1956  20 CIN
Wally Berger             38 119  137  4.2 628 1930  24 BSN
Albert Pujols 
(RoY-1st)  37 130  157  6.6 676 2001  21 STL
Al Rosen                 37 116  145  5.9 668 1950  26 CLE
Jose Abreu 
(RoY-1st)     36 107  173  5.5 622 2014  27 CHW
Ron Kittle 
(RoY-1st)     35 100  118  1.8 570 1983  25 CHW
Rudy York                35 101  151  3.5 417 1937  23 DET
Hal Trosky               35 142  150  5.5 685 1934  21 CLE
Mike Piazza 
(RoY-1st)    35 112  153  7.0 602 1993  24 LAD 
   19. Swoboda is freedom Posted: September 26, 2017 at 05:07 PM (#5539480)
BB-Ref gives this list of rookies with 35+ homers:

Does anyone know why Rosen didn't win the ROY? The others on the list are either from this year or before the ROY award started.
   20. ajnrules Posted: September 26, 2017 at 05:23 PM (#5539491)
Does anyone know why Rosen didn't win the ROY? The others on the list are either from this year or before the ROY award started.

Walt Dropo and his league-leading 144 RBIs. He missed that list by one home run.

I was surprised that Rosen didn't even get a single vote in the Rookie of the Year voting. The others went to Whitey Ford (who went 9-1), and Chico Carrasquel (for I have absolutely no clue whatsoever. Chico also finished ahead of Rosen in MVP voting, even though White Sox fell well behind the Indians in the standings.) Maybe people didn't feel Rosen was a true rookie because he had cups of coffee in the three years prior?
   21. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 26, 2017 at 05:39 PM (#5539504)
It is extremely obvious that Judge IS juiced to the gills.
   22. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 26, 2017 at 05:43 PM (#5539509)
Maybe people didn't feel Rosen was a true rookie because he had cups of coffee in the three years prior?


I seem to recall Bill James writing something about that, that under the rules at the time Rosen wasn't considered a rookie
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: September 26, 2017 at 06:20 PM (#5539528)
I seem to recall Bill James writing something about that, that under the rules at the time Rosen wasn't considered a rookie

nothing was even codified as to what a rookie was in that era - a rookie was in the eye of the beholder, iirc. I suspect the voters decided he didn't count and that was that. plus Dropo had the RBIz!
   24. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 26, 2017 at 07:25 PM (#5539547)
But if I were to picture Judge juiced to the gills, per your request, I'd think of him turning out roughly as he is right now.

Let's start with his birth certificate...
   25. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 26, 2017 at 08:40 PM (#5539583)
Judge has the rookie record in all 3 TTO categories
   26. BDC Posted: September 26, 2017 at 08:48 PM (#5539596)
Chico Carrasquel (for I have absolutely no clue whatsoever

Carrasquel had a superior defensive reputation at shortstop. He was the primeval Luis Aparicio, and in fact the White Sox replaced him with Aparicio without missing a beat in the mid-1950s. Voters may have overrated shortstop defense, but they were might impressed with Carrasquel all the same and voted accordingly.
   27. eric Posted: September 26, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5539719)
This talk made me look up Al Rosen (again). Found this on wikipedia:

Rosen played for the New York Yankees' Kansas City Blues farm team in 1948. He was loaned to the Blues for the duration of the team's American Association season as part of a deal that sent reliever Charley Wensloff from the Yankees to the Indians.[


Um...what?
   28. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: September 27, 2017 at 12:41 AM (#5539828)
I admit I would have sent him down mid-slump.

To the minors? Are you retarded?
   29. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: September 27, 2017 at 12:46 AM (#5539830)
It is extremely obvious that Judge IS juiced to the gills.

Yes, his roid rage is breaking records too.
   30. Morty Causa Posted: September 27, 2017 at 01:13 AM (#5539833)
And Trout is 19 points ahead of him in OPS+, and right there in WAR. Not bad for an old guy in an off year who missed 50 games.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: September 27, 2017 at 02:04 AM (#5539837)
Judge on-contact: 460/1009 ... either we are through the looking glass (increasingly plausible) or that will come down. Of course the Ks might come down too.

Anyway, bouncing back from that slump to hit like he did in the first half again is quite impressive.

HRs at age 25:

Ruth 54
ARod 52
Judge 50

HRs at 25 or younger

Foxx 58 24
Ruth 54 25
ARod 52 25
Mantle 52 24
Mays 51 24
Kiner 52 24
Judge 50 25
Fielder 50 23

Clearly one key is having 5 or fewer letters in your last name (or a nickname that shortens to 4).

Now, what's the rookie record for pancake flops?
   32. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 27, 2017 at 02:20 AM (#5539838)
And Trout is 19 points ahead of him in OPS+, and right there in WAR. Not bad for an old guy in an off year who missed 50 games.

Well, not quite "right there". Trout's performance is pretty impressive, but his injury time cuts into his WAR totals as well as his counting stats. Before tonight, Trout had 6.4 BB-Ref WAR, compared to 7.6 for Judge & 8.2 for Altuve. Fangraphs also has him at 6.4, compared to 7.6 for Judge & 7.4 for Altuve. The missed time and the Angels not making the playoffs probably keeps Trout from winning in a year with other strong MVP candidates whose teams made the playoffs, although I'd bet on him to be in the Top 5.
   33. Morty Causa Posted: September 27, 2017 at 03:26 AM (#5539840)
Point taken. Any idea why such a big difference between BB-Ref and Fangraphs for Altuve?
   34. Morty Causa Posted: September 27, 2017 at 03:39 AM (#5539841)
Also, note their respective WAA and oWAR. Not bad for a player who has played 40 fewer games and has 170 fewer PAs.
   35. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 27, 2017 at 05:00 AM (#5539844)
It is extremely obvious that Judge IS juiced to the gills.


I heard the league is setting up an investigation and the only reason it hasn't been formally announced is that Larry Lucchino couldn't commit to run it until the Special Olympics were over.
   36. villageidiom Posted: September 27, 2017 at 07:45 AM (#5539861)
I heard the league is setting up an investigation and the only reason it hasn't been formally announced is that Larry Lucchino couldn't commit to run it until the Special Olympics were over.
This is hilarious, but not for the reasons you think.
   37. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 27, 2017 at 07:49 AM (#5539863)
You don't know what I think...or do you?

*tinfoils*
   38. villageidiom Posted: September 27, 2017 at 09:10 AM (#5539900)
You don't know what I think...or do you?

*tinfoils*
That's a lovely, shiny salary cap you have there.
   39. Booey Posted: September 27, 2017 at 11:42 AM (#5540024)
And Trout is 19 points ahead of him in OPS+, and right there in WAR. Not bad for an old guy in an off year who missed 50 games.


How is it an off year for Trout? He's putting up career highs in walk and HR percentage, OBP, SLG, and OPS/OPS+.
   40. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 27, 2017 at 01:39 PM (#5540216)
I'm still curious to find out what I was or wasn't thinking re:36 above. C'mon, help a brother out.
   41. Morty Causa Posted: September 27, 2017 at 02:12 PM (#5540257)
39

I would have thought that the "not bad for an old guy" would give it away that I was being sardonic, or sarcastic, or snarky (choose one or provide your own).
   42. Booey Posted: September 27, 2017 at 02:35 PM (#5540280)
#41 - Ah. My bad then.

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