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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Yankees and Dewayne Wise benefit from blown call by umpire Mike DiMuro as fans hide ball in stands

“OH OOOOOOOOHHH…IT NEVER ENDS! IT NEVER ENDS!”

This was very easy for Girardi to say, because Mike DiMuro’s imperfection worked greatly to the manager’s favor on Tuesday night. DiMuro didn’t ask to see a baseball that was not in Dewayne Wise’s glove, when any sensible arbiter would have made that simple request. DiMuro appeared a bit slow getting a decent angle on the foul pop from Jack Hannahan in the seventh inning. And when the ball glanced downward and away from Wise’s glove, DiMuro didn’t order Wise to open his mitt and produce the goods, which is why we have this big fuss today.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/yankees-dewayne-wise-benefits-blown-call-umpire-mike-dimuro-fans-hide-ball-stands-article-1.1103018#ixzz1z02prJr7


...“(DiMuro) said, ‘Out,’ right away,” Wise said. “So what was I supposed to do? Run back to left field?”

Such honesty would have been considered traitorous folly. As for the baseball itself, that elusive, deceitful sphere had bounced off Wise’s glove, onto the floor. There a fan, Vinnie Pellegrino, plucked it from the cement and handed it to his West Islip buddy, Sal Azzariti.

Azzariti, loyal Yankee fan, said he tried to stick the ball back into Wise’s glove before the left fielder lifted himself back onto the field.

Repoz Posted: June 27, 2012 at 09:15 AM | 105 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Dale H. Posted: June 28, 2012 at 04:59 PM (#4168971)

Strawman. Argument against replay has never, ever been that a single play reviewed destroys the game, it's that repeated reviews on multiple plays per game (many longer than 23 seconds) will simply make it more tiresome to watch.


I don't think it is. I'm in favor of a replay system that's so transparent that the calls are made as soon as the first replays are evident. If there's a question, where the booth ump thinks there's a 90% chance he'll overturn the silly call on the field, then he buzzes down and they look at it for a couple more replays. If it looks ambiguous on first watch, play on. In this case, there's absolutely no impact to the game timing at all. In this game, we knew there was a blown call before the TV went to commercial. My point is that this impact is so minimal as to be inconspicuous.

There's no reason to follow the football model of spending five minutes looking at a play. Follow the hockey review system, where many times there's no impact to the next face-off at all.
   102. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: June 28, 2012 at 07:13 PM (#4169042)
I'm in favor of a replay system that's so transparent that the calls are made as soon as the first replays are evident. If there's a question, where the booth ump thinks there's a 90% chance he'll overturn the silly call on the field, then he buzzes down and they look at it for a couple more replays. If it looks ambiguous on first watch, play on. In this case, there's absolutely no impact to the game timing at all. In this game, we knew there was a blown call before the TV went to commercial. My point is that this impact is so minimal as to be inconspicuous.


That's a nice ideal, but we're talking about Major League Baseball here. They will not pull this off - at least not without years of trial and error.
   103. Sunday silence Posted: June 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM (#4169206)
The umpires not being rehired was great. That's how they got rid of Eric Gregg. There was a sort of sad story about him a few years later trying to hang on as an ump in some minor league or some odd job and how he couldnt go back to MLB. Then he died a few years after that, and I sort of felt bad about it, but then I remembered what a complete a hole he was back in the day. Did they get rid of Richie Phillips that way too? or no?
   104. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2012 at 08:44 AM (#4169265)
If it looks ambiguous on first watch, play on.

Once you go through the trouble to implement an extensive replay system, you really, truly, think anyone would accept this kind of thing? After 10 seconds, watching once and "Hmmm... dunno. Nevermind." I think the idea that this would fly is utter fantasy.

Also, technology is not magic, it takes time, which is why even on insanely good plays the replay isn't until after the commercial break. Some replays are quick, sure, but the idea that any and ALL plays reviewed will take no times at all is also unrealistic.
   105. bobm Posted: July 23, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4189895)
Mike Dimuro is boosting the case for instant replay in a big way this year, along with his reputation as a s### umpire.

From today's NY Daily News:

After thrilling the Citi Field crowd of 31,184 with that game-tying rally in the ninth and tantalizing them with what appeared to be a game-winning rally in the 10th, the Mets — with a little help from first base umpire Mike Dimuro — ran out of chances in the 12th when Matt Treanor’s pinch-hit, two-run single ignited the Dodgers’ five-run surge.

James Loney started the rally with a single and Tony Gwynn Jr.’s sac bunt attempt turned into an infield hit when he beat Ike Davis’ throw to first. Replays showed that Gwynn hadn’t actually beaten the throw; nevertheless, the Dodgers had runners on first and second.

That was also the third blown call of the game by Dimuro, who also had one in the ninth and another in the 10th. ...

The Mets showed some grit in the ninth when they knotted the score at 3-3 when Ruben Tejada scored on Davis’ groundout. Replays showed that Davis beat Loney’s throw to first, which would have left the Mets with runners on first and second and the red-hot Daniel Murphy coming up. It was the first blown call by Dimuro. Instead the Dodgers intentionally walked Murphy before Dodgers reliever Javy Guerra got Lucas Duda to ground out to end the inning.

The Mets further teased in the 10th  when Kirk Nieuwenhius led off with a double. After Scott Hairston walked, Mike Nickeas’ bunt led to Nieuwenhuis being forced at third before Nickeas was called safe on the throw to first. Replays showed Nickeas was out by a full step in what was Dimuro’s second missed call. But the Mets couldn’t capitalize when Tejada hit into a double play to end the inning.

Collins refused to hang the loss on Dimuro’s shoddy performance.

“We’re sitting here with a lot of opportunities to win this game,” Collins said. “I’m not going to blame the umpire for losing a ball game we had a chance to win.”


Collins wouldn't complain in part because Dimuro also f###ed a fair/foul call in the fourth inning. Daniel Murphy got on base on a fly ball down the right field line that appeared to be foul but was called fair for a double, and he then came around to score.
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