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Thursday, October 28, 2010

Yankees and manager Joe Girardi agree on a new three-year, $9 million contract

The Yankees and Girardi agreed to a three-year contract worth $9 million, the Daily News has learned. The two sides are putting the finishing touches on the deal, which could be announced as early as Thursday.

All this stability at Yankee Stadium is nauseating! C’mon, fire him and bring back Billy Martin!

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   1. Big Train Posted: October 28, 2010 at 06:18 PM (#3678237)
this sucks.
   2. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 06:18 PM (#3678238)
Just submitted this too. Man I hate the delay between article submission and post.

My comment on this news was "Let the shrieking begin." What say you, Yankees fans?
   3. Big Train Posted: October 28, 2010 at 06:20 PM (#3678239)
and, to be clear, it doesn't suck because they didn't win this year, this sucks because he overmanages every single little thing. every game is game 7, unless the division is on the line, then Royce Ring is in the game.
   4. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 06:28 PM (#3678246)
I like Girardi, I think SJ is being a trifle melodramatic here, but he's kind of a melodramatic guy, so that's ok.
   5. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 06:29 PM (#3678249)
What say you, Yankees fans?


I love the move. Then again, I'm a Red Sox fan.

I note that, despite the heavy breathing from the New York media (e.g., Francesa) about whether Girardi would become the next Cubs' manager, the Cubs didn't bother to wait to find out whether he would entertain the notion.
   6. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: October 28, 2010 at 06:45 PM (#3678276)
My comment on this news was "Let the shrieking begin." What say you, Yankees fans?

My comment is that the final standing of the 2011 Yankees is going to depend a lot more on Brian Cashman, Mark Teixeira and Phil Hughes than on Joe Girardi.
   7. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3678313)
My comment is that the final standing of the 2011 Yankees is going to depend a lot more on Brian Cashman, Mark Teixeira and Phil Hughes than on Joe Girardi.


True...but do I detect a small amount of denial?
   8. Rich Posted: October 28, 2010 at 07:19 PM (#3678325)
I'm more interested in who the pitching coach will be.
   9. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: October 28, 2010 at 07:33 PM (#3678336)
I note that, despite the heavy breathing from the New York media (e.g., Francesa) about whether Girardi would become the next Cubs' manager, the Cubs didn't bother to wait to find out whether he would entertain the notion.


Well there's a reason the Cubs are perennial losers and the Yankees the most successful franchise in all of sports.
   10. retro-shiite Posted: October 28, 2010 at 07:41 PM (#3678350)
Well there's a reason the Cubs are perennial losers and the Yankees the most successful franchise in all of sports.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I think Hendry played this one right.
   11. Big Train Posted: October 28, 2010 at 07:41 PM (#3678351)
I like Girardi, I think SJ is being a trifle melodramatic here, but he's kind of a melodramatic guy, so that's ok.

He makes me hate life.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 28, 2010 at 07:54 PM (#3678364)
Casey Stengel isn't available, so this is OK.
   13. villageidiom Posted: October 28, 2010 at 08:17 PM (#3678384)
Well there's a reason the Cubs are perennial losers and the Yankees the most successful franchise in all of sports.

NY Yacht Club: 25 championships in 36 years = 69.4% success rate
Celtics: 17 championships in 64 years = 26.6% success rate
Canadiens: 24 championships in 94 years = 25.53% success rate
Yankees: 27 championships in 106 years = 25.47% success rate
Lakers: 16 championships in 64 years = 25.0% success rate
Manchester United: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Liverpool: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Argonauts: 15 championships in 97 years = 15.5% success rate
Packers: 12 championships in 91 years = 13.1% success rate

Well, they're among the most successful. They are the most successful, if you're into counting stats... but in that sense they're also bigger failures than the Los Angeles Clippers.
   14. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: October 28, 2010 at 08:22 PM (#3678389)
Joel Sherman of the "NY Post" is left to tweeting on how Joe Torre did better in his first three years than Girardi. True, but how do Torre's last three years in the Bronx compare to Girardi? And how did the 2010 Dodgers do with virtually the same payroll as the Giants?

Girardi has his faults but he is a better fit than anyone out there...especially Bobby Valentine. Plus the 1980s Yankees teaches us that frequent changes should be left for underwear, not managers.
   15. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: October 28, 2010 at 08:34 PM (#3678400)

NY Yacht Club: 25 championships in 36 years = 69.4% success rate
Celtics: 17 championships in 64 years = 26.6% success rate
Canadiens: 24 championships in 94 years = 25.53% success rate
Yankees: 27 championships in 106 years = 25.47% success rate
Lakers: 16 championships in 64 years = 25.0% success rate
Manchester United: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Liverpool: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Argonauts: 15 championships in 97 years = 15.5% success rate
Packers: 12 championships in 91 years = 13.1% success rate


I'm talking about real sports. Yachting, hockey, soccer, oh my lord, did I really need to specify only sports that Americans care about? I think the T-Birds won 50% of the roller derby championships but c'mon.
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 08:46 PM (#3678411)
You left out the Harlem Globetrotters.
   17. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 08:58 PM (#3678424)
He makes me hate life.
You also said you would have preferred Cashman kick you in the nuts than sign Johnny Damon, and then last season you wanted to re-sign him.

Manchester United: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Liverpool: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
I don't think these compare straight to the Yankees winning the World Series, since there's no small sample size issue. The better comparison would be number of times with the best record in the league. (I would accept Real Madrid, who is at 9 out of 55 European Cup/Champions League titles, 16.3%)
   18. fra paolo Posted: October 28, 2010 at 08:58 PM (#3678425)
did I really need to specify only sports that Americans care about

Yes.

People from all over the world visit this site, not just Americans.

You're as arrogant as the French, and as provincial as the Chinese.
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:01 PM (#3678431)

People from all over the world visit this site, not just Americans.


Yes, but the American posters are the best.

And fattest.
   20. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:08 PM (#3678437)
People from all over the world visit this site, not just Americans.


Golly, I hope this isn't going to turn in to another rant about how "World Series" is a misnomer.

You're as arrogant as the French, and as provincial as the Chinese.


I'm as sexy as the Brazilians and that's all that matters.
   21. fra paolo Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:13 PM (#3678442)
Golly, I hope this isn't going to turn in to another rant about how "World Series" is a misnomer.

You're safe, Gomer, that's Another Person's issue.
   22. Kurt Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:14 PM (#3678443)
"Real" sport squabbles aside, YR's initial point that the Cubs lacking interest in Girardi is not exactly iron clad proof that he's not very good is well taken.
   23. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:15 PM (#3678444)
You're as arrogant as the French, and as provincial as the Chinese.


I'm as sexy as the Brazilians and that's all that matters.
Credit where credit is due: that's a great line
   24. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:17 PM (#3678445)
Yachting, hockey, soccer, oh my lord, did I really need to specify only sports that Americans care about?


It's funny to see this plea coming from someone who can't stop talking about boxing.
   25. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:19 PM (#3678448)
You don't hear me talking much about contemporary boxing, mainly because I stopped caring about 15 years ago. I watched a bit of the Vitali Klitchko vs Shannon Briggs slaughter last weekend and got terribly depressed at what passes for heavyweight contenders today.
   26. phredbird Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:29 PM (#3678460)
cripes, the celts and lakers have won over 50% of NBA championships? i knew that they combined for a bunch, but that's ... interesting. does it say something about parity or lack thereof?
   27. KronicFatigue Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:31 PM (#3678462)
I dislike Girardi, but am ok with this signing. Stability is worth something, and the fact that he isn't extremely horrible is worth something too. Ditto the fact that he doesn't go around proctoring pitchers' careers.


And I agree with the above post that says the pitching coach is key.
   28. Big Train Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:34 PM (#3678464)
cripes, the celts and lakers have won over 50% of NBA championships? i knew that they combined for a bunch, but that's ... interesting. does it say something about parity or lack thereof?
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Since the opening tip in 1979, only the Lakers, Celtics, 76ers, Bulls, Pistons, Spurs and Heat have won titles. And the Sixers and Heat only won once.

6 franchises in 30 years.
   29. Rich Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:34 PM (#3678467)
Joel Sherman of the "NY Post" is left to tweeting on how Joe Torre did better in his first three years than Girardi.


I saw that. Obviously (except to Sherman), Torre had the benefit of a much younger version of Jeter, Posada, and Rivera (he was able to pitch more extended outings then), as well as Bernie Williams in his prime, and there is more parity now as a result of subsequent CBAs.
   30. Randy Jones Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:42 PM (#3678469)
Since the opening tip in 1979, only the Lakers, Celtics, 76ers, Bulls, Pistons, Spurs and Heat have won titles. And the Sixers and Heat only won once.

6 franchises in 30 years.


The Rockets won twice while Jordan was playing baseball.
   31. Big Train Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:49 PM (#3678474)
right, my bad. I missed the one. It was my favorite stat to quote until the Heat ###### it up that one year.
   32. Randy Jones Posted: October 28, 2010 at 09:51 PM (#3678477)
It's not like 8 different teams in 30 years is that much better. Just remember, MLB has the competitive balance problem.
   33. YR Denies Jesus Montero Posted: October 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM (#3678488)
Obviously the NBA needs revenue sharing and a salary cap. Once those things are in place we'll finally see the Clippers dynasty we've long predicted.
   34. Srul Itza Posted: October 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM (#3678521)
For those who don't want to count, for the 30 years from 1981 through this year, If I did it right, 19 different franchises will have won the WS.
   35. Dag Nabbit apealing [sic] his own check swing Posted: October 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM (#3678547)
You're as arrogant as the French, and as provincial as the Chinese.

And as militaristic as the Germans.
   36. Textbook Editor Posted: October 29, 2010 at 12:35 AM (#3678586)
Here's the thing: 3 years for $9 million is chump change for the Yankees. It doesn't stop them from firing Girardi any time they feel like it.

Now, if he had signed for 3 years/$18 million (or something like that), if I were a Yankee fan I'd be a bit more worried, only because the $ might make them think twice about cutting bait early in the contract.

When's the last time a Yankee manager got fired mid-season? The early 1990s? Jeez. It has been a while.
   37. villageidiom Posted: October 29, 2010 at 12:40 AM (#3678595)
I'm talking about real sports.
I had you mistaken for someone talking about all of sports.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 29, 2010 at 12:56 AM (#3678617)
I had you mistaken for someone talking about all of sports.

I think most of those were legit, but the NY Yacht club?
   39. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 29, 2010 at 08:33 AM (#3679131)
Golly, I hope this isn't going to turn in to another rant about how "World Series" is a misnomer.

Where do they get off calling it a series? There's only one World "Series" per year!
   40. Walt Davis Posted: October 29, 2010 at 09:58 AM (#3679143)
NY Yacht Club: 25 championships in 36 years = 69.4% success rate
Celtics: 17 championships in 64 years = 26.6% success rate
Canadiens: 24 championships in 94 years = 25.53% success rate
Yankees: 27 championships in 106 years = 25.47% success rate
Lakers: 16 championships in 64 years = 25.0% success rate
Manchester United: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Liverpool: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Argonauts: 15 championships in 97 years = 15.5% success rate
Packers: 12 championships in 91 years = 13.1% success rate


Ahem!!

UNC Women's Soccer: 20 NCAA championships in 28 years = 71.4%

overall NCAA record through 2009 of 642-30-21
   41. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2010 at 10:03 AM (#3679145)
And as drunk as the Irish!
   42. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM (#3679146)
I am always suspicious of anyone in management who wants to be a "star". Between the commercials and having his agent put him out there for the Cubs I wonder what Giardi really wants.

Not just sports managers/coaches. All management. The good ones rarely look for the cameras
   43. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 29, 2010 at 11:58 AM (#3679156)
NY Yacht Club: 25 championships in 36 years = 69.4% success rate
Celtics: 17 championships in 64 years = 26.6% success rate
Canadiens: 24 championships in 94 years = 25.53% success rate
Yankees: 27 championships in 106 years = 25.47% success rate
Lakers: 16 championships in 64 years = 25.0% success rate
Manchester United: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Liverpool: 18 championships in 111 years = 16.2% success rate
Argonauts: 15 championships in 97 years = 15.5% success rate
Packers: 12 championships in 91 years = 13.1% success rate

Ahem!!

UNC Women's Soccer: 20 NCAA championships in 28 years = 71.4%

overall NCAA record through 2009 of 642-30-21


Not as good as Cal Rubgy: 24 NCAA Championships in 30 years = 80%
   44. villageidiom Posted: October 29, 2010 at 01:30 PM (#3679185)
I think most of those were legit, but the NY Yacht club?
America's Cup. They won every cup challenge from 1851 (when they were the challenger) to 1980.

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