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Sunday, December 16, 2012

Yankees eye Angels’ Vernon Wells

Next up on the Yankees’ winter shopping list is a righthanded-hitting outfielder, and the Angels’ Vernon Wells reportedly is a potential trade target.

The Yankees and the Angels discussed a possible deal for Wells at the baseball winter meetings in Nashville, according to a report Saturday on FoxSports.com.

The Yanks are also prowling the free-agent market in search of a righty bat to complement their all-lefty outfield of Curtis Granderson, Brett Gardner and Ichiro Suzuki. Ichiro has agreed to a two-year, $13 million contract that will become official once he takes a physical and some contract language is completed.

The Yankees have interest in Scott Hairston, who hit 20 homers for the Mets last year. They might be a match with the Angels for a trade because the Halos just signed Josh Hamilton and now have a glut of outfielders, meaning the 34-year-old Wells could be available.

Thanks to JB.

Repoz Posted: December 16, 2012 at 08:28 AM | 82 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jeff Frances the Mute Posted: December 16, 2012 at 08:48 AM (#4325931)
Could be available?
   2. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 16, 2012 at 09:03 AM (#4325933)
Who is more available, Alfonso Soriano or Vernon Wells?
   3. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: December 16, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4325938)
I can think of five teams who would be happy to see Vernon Wells on the Yankees. And none of them are the Yankees.
   4. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM (#4325941)
It's true that the Yankees do need a righty-hitting outfielder, but I suspect that Chris Dickerson could take up switch hitting at age 30 and more or less match Wells' performance.

And since this article is basically just McCarron re-reporting Robo-thal, it's worth pointing out that he has the Phillies and Rays also potentially in on Wells. Basically, if your team has shown any interest in Scott Hairston or Cody Ross, the Angels would like to convince you to take Vernon instead. And who can blame them?
   5. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: December 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM (#4325943)
Who is more available, Alfonso Soriano or Vernon Wells?

Que es mas macho? Fernando Lamas o Ricardo Montalbon?
   6. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 16, 2012 at 10:37 AM (#4325945)
How much money would the Angels have to send for the Yankees to take Wells? It would have to be something like $40 million of the $42 he's owed, right?
   7. Hack Wilson Posted: December 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM (#4325946)
Que es mas macho? Fernando Lamas o Ricardo Montalbon?


Alfonso Soriano or Vernon Well or Corinthian leather?
   8. Matthew E Posted: December 16, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4325952)
I would not like to see Vernon Wells on the Yankees. Because I like Vernon Wells, and given his level of play these days, I can't imagine that they would be very kind to him in New York. I'd rather he finish his career someplace nicer.
   9. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: December 16, 2012 at 11:46 AM (#4325961)
What's wrong with Ronnier Mustelier?

To be clear, I knew absolutely nothing about him (not even that he existed) until a moment ago, when I thought "Surely they have a right handed outfielder who has hit acceptably in the high minors". And sure enough, Ronnier Mustelier.
   10. J.R. Wolf Posted: December 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM (#4325963)
Got a player with an albatross contract? Trade him to the Yankees!

This is great as long as you're not a Yankee fan.
   11. Spahn Insane Posted: December 16, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4325969)
Strange though it feels to defend Soriano and/or his contract, he's a damn sight better than Vernon Wells is these days.
   12. SM Posted: December 16, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4325970)
Even if the Angels paid 40 of 42 on Vernon Wells' contract, it would still count against the luxury tax as 21 million per year, right? I can't see any way in hell the Yankees would be willing to add that tax hit this year and next.
   13. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: December 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM (#4325976)
Please, please, please.....
   14. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM (#4325977)
Even if the Angels paid 40 of 42 on Vernon Wells' contract, it would still count against the luxury tax as 21 million per year, right?


Wrong. Wells' salary counts against whoever pays it. Otherwise, the Yankees could get under the cap just by cutting A-Rod and having someone else pick him up for the minimum.
   15.  Hey Gurl Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:05 PM (#4325990)
I've known since at least 2005 that V-dub would one day be a Yankee. They have always loved him. Even when he was sucking. It always worried me that it was going to happen, but it worries me less so now.
   16. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:14 PM (#4325993)
You know, now that I give a few seconds thought, Vernon Wells replacing Andruw Jones is arguably a decent upgrade. Ichiro Suzuki replacing Nick Swisher is the real problem here.
   17. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:26 PM (#4325995)
Why sign a player who can't get on base?
   18. Randy Jones Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4326002)
You know, now that I give a few seconds thought, Vernon Wells replacing Andruw Jones is arguably a decent upgrade. Ichiro Suzuki replacing Nick Swisher is the real problem here.


Compared to last year, the replacement for Swisher is a healthy Gardner. Ichiro is replacing the combo of Jones and Ibanez. Both of those are likely to be upgrades on what the Yankees got from their OF'ers last year.

EDIT: Also, trading for Wells would be a terrible idea. Unless maybe the Angels will send the Yankees ~$60M of the $42M Vernon is owed.
   19. Boxkutter Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:43 PM (#4326003)
Why sign a player who can't get on base?


Outs are the new market inefficiency. It's Moneyball.
   20. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:44 PM (#4326006)
What a terrible idea. About 90% of people are right-handed. The Yankees can't find one of them to play the outfield?
   21. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:52 PM (#4326011)
About 90% of people are right-handed.


And yet only 56% of MLB PA were taken by RHB in 2012.
   22. Matthew E Posted: December 16, 2012 at 02:46 PM (#4326022)
About 90% of people are right-handed.


And yet only 56% of MLB PA were taken by RHB in 2012.


Yeah, but being right-handed and batting right-handed don't necessarily go together. I'm right-handed, but I bat left.
   23. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 16, 2012 at 02:51 PM (#4326026)
That was my point.

EDIT: IOW, the Yanks already have two "righthanded" OFs who don't bat from the right side.
   24. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 16, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4326028)
Soriano before Wells - easy choice. Money is tight, but you'd get some value paying Soriano $3M or so rather than wasting $1M on Wells.
   25. Tripon Posted: December 16, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4326030)
Why did the Angels traded for Wells again?
   26. asinwreck Posted: December 16, 2012 at 03:21 PM (#4326041)
Which eye? Evil? Stink?
   27. Dan Posted: December 16, 2012 at 04:12 PM (#4326062)
Wells doesn't even make sense in this kind of role. For a right handed hitter, he has an unimpressive history of hitting left handed pitching. He has several seasons with reverse splits even. A guy like Scott Hairston is far more suitable for backing up an all left handed outfield, especially when you already have a few guys who can play CF.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: December 16, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4326096)
Vernon Wells 2006 ... 6.0 WAR
Alfonso Soriano 2006 ... 5.9 WAR

Other targets for the Yanks this offseason:

Travis Hafner ... 5.7 WAR (this actually makes some sense until everybody is healthy)
Gary Matthews Jr ... 5.0 WAR and a switch-hitter
Carlos Guillen or Bill Hall ... 5.6 WAR and more versatile than Troy Glaus ... or they could roll the dice on a kid like Joe Crede (4.4 WAR)

Wow, Joe Crede had a good year once.

Que es mas macho? Fernando Lamas o Ricardo Montalbon?

Montalban ... Lamas always seemed a bit fey ... not that there's anything wrong with that.

A guy like Scott Hairston is far more suitable for backing up an all left handed outfield

I'm not sure Hairston shouldn't start over Ichiro. I'm fairly certain Cody Ross should.

   29. J.R. Wolf Posted: December 16, 2012 at 08:24 PM (#4326228)
Look st Ichiro's WARP for 2011 and 2012. I keep telling people this: for the last two years he wasn't much above replacement level.
   30. rr Posted: December 16, 2012 at 08:27 PM (#4326230)
How are Wells' D numbers? Not saying that it is a good idea for the Yankees either way; just asking.
   31. J.R. Wolf Posted: December 16, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4326231)
Why sign a player who can't get on base?

Congratulations! Knowing enough to ask that question proves you to be smarter than several real-life GM's!
   32. Greg K Posted: December 16, 2012 at 09:02 PM (#4326239)

Yeah, but being right-handed and batting right-handed don't necessarily go together. I'm right-handed, but I bat left.

And I'm left-handed and bat right!

It's actually only been in the past year that I've put any thought mechanically into my swing. A guy on our team who had played some Dominican academy ball (so presumably knows what he's talking about) was showing me how to swing by (apologies for the terrible description) bringing the knob of the bat to the ball, then punching through with the top (right) hand. This seems entirely un-natural to me. My right arm is more or less useless as an instrument of physical endeavour. My swing is almost entirely bottom (left) hand, with the right most just acting as a passenger along for the ride. In what might be a related development it is absoutely impossible for me to hit the ball to the right of second base.

I assume since the common bat/throw pairing is L/L or R/R that most swings are top hand dominant. Is bottom-hand swinging an actual thing? Or have I just been doing it wrong my entire life?
   33. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 16, 2012 at 09:50 PM (#4326247)
And I'm left-handed and bat right!


BL/TR is fairly common, but BR/TL is pretty rare. You, Rickey, Cleon Jones, and that kid I coached in Little League are the only ones I can think of OTTOMH.

As for your swing, forget all that knob-throwing BS and just turn your damned hips.
   34. JJ1986 Posted: December 16, 2012 at 09:53 PM (#4326248)
BL/TR is fairly common, but BR/TL is pretty rare. You, Rickey, Cleon Jones, and that kid I coached in Little League are the only ones I can think of OTTOMH.


Cody Ross, and several pitchers.
   35. Greg K Posted: December 16, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4326252)
BL/TR is fairly common, but BR/TL is pretty rare. You, Rickey, Cleon Jones, and that kid I coached in Little League are the only ones I can think of OTTOMH.

As a fellow rarity I've kept an eye on it...there's actually quite a few pitchers who are L/R.

Good news on the hips! That's essentially my entire batting strategy. Playing baseball in a country where no one has ever played is really fun because it forces you to think about technique in order to explain to new guys how to hit. Pretty much my only contribution to the various cricketers or footballers who show up is "HIPS!"
   36. Sweatpants Posted: December 16, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4326254)
Ryan Ludwick's one of the more prominent recent ones.
   37. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM (#4326311)
Yeah, but being right-handed and batting right-handed don't necessarily go together. I'm right-handed, but I bat left.


I play guitar righty, bat lefty, play golf righty, throw lefty, kick righty...

Okay. That explains a lot.

Anyone else do things at all like that? I've never thought of myself as ambidextrous, but it seems odd to not be but still alternate things like that.
   38. Matthew E Posted: December 17, 2012 at 12:01 AM (#4326339)
I wonder if there's any connection at all between swinging a bat righty and being right-handed. Why do we call it "batting right-handed", anyway? When you do it you're facing to your left and swinging toward your left; just as easy to call it "batting left-handed". What is it about it that makes it necessarily correspond to what your dominant hand is?

I'm right-handed and bat left, as stated above; I throw with my right hand and I think I kick with my right foot. My hockey swing and golf swing are, like my baseball swing, left-handed.
   39. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 17, 2012 at 12:49 AM (#4326395)
I wonder if there's any connection at all between swinging a bat righty and being right-handed.


Not sure what you mean by "connection," but I think there is a pretty decent correlation between which hand you throw with and which side you bat from.

Why do we call it "batting right-handed", anyway? When you do it you're facing to your left and swinging toward your left; just as easy to call it "batting left-handed".


"Swinging toward your left" could just as easily be viewed as "swinging from your right." But I don't think it has anything to do with that.

Why do we call it "playing left field"? When you do it, you're standing to the right of the guy playing right field. But you're on the batter's left. And when you bat right-handed, you're on the pitcher's right.
   40. Walt Davis Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:24 AM (#4326432)
I think I have a better (i.e. smoother, prettier) swing lefty but I didn't discover that until it was too late. (Throw righty) Oddly, I always shot a hockey stick lefty. I've certainly got more strength on the right side but I think I have a bit more dexterity on the left. The left wrist seems to roll/snap faster the right one (why that felt natural in hockey). Hips seem to clear better but I always used an extreme open stance when screwing around and batting lefty (similar to the sort of stance you use shooting in hockey). I mainly blame Ernie Banks and Hank Aaron. They hit righty, it was obviously the right way to do it.

Regardless, I was not much of a hockey shot so I doubt I'd have been any good with the lefty bat either.
   41. Tschingsch Posted: December 17, 2012 at 02:21 AM (#4326462)
BL/TR is fairly common, but BR/TL is pretty rare. You, Rickey, Cleon Jones, and that kid I coached in Little League are the only ones I can think of OTTOMH.


I'm also a BR/TL. This is what happens when right-handed people teach you how to play baseball (or wiffle ball for me as a kid).
   42. BrianBrianson Posted: December 17, 2012 at 05:59 AM (#4326474)
One born every minute, I hear.
   43. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 17, 2012 at 09:27 AM (#4326509)
My brother is left-handed, so my dad bought him a RH ball glove when he was 5 or 6. Upon making his first catch, he took the glove off and threw the ball back to dad with his right hand. He also hits RH. Dad(who TR and BL) actually tried to get him to swing and throw from the left side beut he wouldn't have it. He's always written left-handed, but does everything else right-handed.

I work with a guy who can write with both hands at the same time.

I'm about as dominantly right-handed as one can get.
   44. AJMcCringleberry Posted: December 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM (#4326528)
I throw and bat righty. I write, eat, and bowl lefty.
   45. Biscuit_pants Posted: December 17, 2012 at 10:29 AM (#4326542)
On the BL/TR and vice versa issue I noticed something interesting playing college ball. In the beginning if the season when your timing is off, batting with your dominant eye in the back is initially easier. As your timing improves having your dominant eye closer to the pitcher is better. Tried this with most of my team and it seemed to work with that way for each of them (about 200 swings).

My only guess was that while your timing was off most of your swing repetition reflex is responding to the ball as it is closer to you, whereas when your timing is better it starts earlier on. Otherwise it was all BS and had more to do with the power of suggestion.
   46. Greg K Posted: December 17, 2012 at 10:42 AM (#4326552)
I'm about as dominantly right-handed as one can get.

I'm the same for lefty. I can barely hold a pint with my right.

I would guess that the "batting righty" descrption comes from the fact that most people who bat right-handed use their right arm as the dominant one in their swing. I suspect people who are left-handed but bat righty are actually using a different swing that R/R. I don't know enough about swings to know for sure, but it just makes sense. In my swing my right arm is barely doing anything. I'd have to believe that a R/R batter is doing something quite different.
   47. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 10:51 AM (#4326560)
For reference, here's the list of BR/TL sorted by most PA. The number two guy on the list surprised me. In the spirit of comparison, here's the BL/TR list. That, you will surely not be shocked to learn, is a better team.
   48. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM (#4326652)
I'm about as dominantly right-handed as one can get.

Same. Bat, throw, write, mouse, you name it -- I'm purely RH.

My dad, meanwhile, writes and throws RH but bats LH. It always seemed weird to me.
   49. Jason Michael(s) Bourn Identity Crisis Posted: December 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM (#4326676)
The only eye the Yankees should be giving Wells is the stinkeye.
   50. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: December 17, 2012 at 12:37 PM (#4326686)
Wow! We are in a golden age of BR/TL hitters with two of the top 7 all-time in PA playing right now. (if anyone knows who they are before looking at the list, I sure didn't)
   51. Jason Michael(s) Bourn Identity Crisis Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:15 PM (#4326751)
Ryan Ludwick may be one of them. Not sure about the other...
   52. Ace of Kevin Bass Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4326775)
I write left-handed, kick with my left foot, eat left-handed, and scoop ice cream left-handed.

I throw right-handed, bat right-handed, bowl right-handed, use scissors right-handed, and use a mouse right-handed. In volleyball I serve and spike right-handed. In basketball I shoot right-handed.

Air hockey and ping pong I can do with equal proficiency with either hand.
   53. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:37 PM (#4326791)
I am left-handed all the way except in baseball where I throw and bat righty. Everything else I do I do as a southpaw.
   54. SoSH U at work Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:44 PM (#4326804)
I do everything righthanded except block shots/spike a volleyball. However, I've pretty much taught myself to shoot a basketball as well lefthanded as I do righthanded (largely due to being a mediocre shooter righthanded). I've also taught myself to throw pretty decently lefthanded, which developed after years of working on my lefthanded pickoff move just because lefthanded pickoff moves are supremely awesome.

   55. Spahn Insane Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:47 PM (#4326812)
Interesting how many of those BR/TL players are pitchers, once you get down a ways on the list. Wonder why that is. (I'd figure it'd be the opposite, more likely--pitchers hit so poorly, you'd figure they'd want to hit lefty and get the platoon advantage more often than not. Or maybe it's not something they have that kind of control over.)
   56. Spahn Insane Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:48 PM (#4326817)
Ryan Ludwick may be one of them. Not sure about the other...

I guessed Ludwick as well, and he is in fact one of them. I wouldn't have come up with the second if you gave me all day.
   57. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:53 PM (#4326826)
The only eye the Yankees should be giving Wells is the stinkeye.

Or the kind that Patricia Neal gave Gort, all the while thinking, "W(hy)TF did I get within 5 miles of this thing?"
   58. SoSH U at work Posted: December 17, 2012 at 02:00 PM (#4326836)
Interesting how many of those BR/TL players are pitchers, once you get down a ways on the list. Wonder why that is. (I'd figure it'd be the opposite, more likely--pitchers hit so poorly, you'd figure they'd want to hit lefty and get the platoon advantage more often than not. Or maybe it's not something they have that kind of control over.)


I think the game itself is the big reason. Throwing lefthanded is only an advantage at two positions, pitcher and first base. It's not an option for three positions, virtually not an option at a fourth (catcher) and is neutral in the outfield.

But pitcher is the only position where throwing lefthanded is specifically selected for. Most talented lefthanded throwing baseball players are given a shot on the mound. Their batting (where being lefthanded is an advantage) is not important, so the fact that some of them prefer to swing righthanded may not be an issue in their development. Lefty throwers who aren't pitchers may be more encouraged to swing the stick from the left side as well, or less inclined to make it due to their inherent competitive disadvantages (both throwing and batting).

The game itself and genetics contributes to the paucity of BR/TL players.
   59. Cris E Posted: December 17, 2012 at 02:04 PM (#4326842)
This month we discovered my that my left handed daughter actually plays basketball (ie dribbling, shooting) much better right handed. She's new to the game and spent a couple weeks not liking it much before switching. Hat tip to the coach who suggested it.

There's an entire chapter in Tim Kurkjian's book on this issue of handedness. He's got a *lot* of stories on this: guys who play above the waist one handed (baseball, tennis) and below the waist (hockey, golf) the other, or soft touch (ping pong, putting) one way and hard touch (baseball, driver) the other. BTW, on the whole his book "Is This a Great Game, or What?" is a fun read.
   60. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 02:07 PM (#4326850)
Wow! We are in a golden age of BR/TL hitters with two of the top 7 all-time in PA playing right now. (if anyone knows who they are before looking at the list, I sure didn't)
In 2003, four of the top 15 all-time in BR/TL plate appearences were active in the Major Leagues, which is pretty impressive for a single season. In fact, overall 2003 saw BR/TL plate appearences by seven of the Top 50.
   61. SoSH U at work Posted: December 17, 2012 at 02:10 PM (#4326854)
I've never understood why lefthanded guitar playing is described the way it. That seems like the way a righty should play,.
   62. Shredder Posted: December 17, 2012 at 02:20 PM (#4326868)
I'm about as dominantly right-handed as one can get.
I'm also very dominant right handed, though I taught myself to bat left handed. Of course, I did it at an age where my only practice is softball games or the batting cage, so it's not particularly useful. I grew up in a house with a pitched roof. I'd toss a wiffle ball up there and hit it as it came down, and there was only enough room to hit ball as left handed as it came off the roof.

The only thing I do left handed is play hockey, but I barely consider that a righty/lefty thing. To me it always made more sense to play left handed. If you play hockey left handed, it's actually your right hand that is on the stick 100% of the time. It's a lot easier to play with one hand on the stick when it's your dominant hand, and I generate most of my power with my right hand anyway. The left hand is essentially a fulcrum. There's an interesting New York Times article on this.
According to sales figures from stick manufacturers, a majority of Canadian hockey players shoot left-handed, and a majority of American players shoot right-handed. No reason is known for this disparity, which cuts across all age groups and has persisted for decades.

Most Canadians, like most Americans, are naturally right-handed, so the discrepancy has nothing to do with national brain-wiring. And how you hold a pencil, say, has little or no bearing on how you hold a stick. A left-handed shooter puts his right hand on top; a right-hander puts the left hand there.
   63. CrosbyBird Posted: December 17, 2012 at 03:27 PM (#4326954)
And I'm left-handed and bat right!

I don't understand why this is so popular. Batting right-handed puts you at a disadvantage in two major ways: you're facing more same-handedness pitchers, and you're further from 1B. I would think practically everyone would be strongly encouraged to bat left-handed if at all capable of doing so.

I'm a pretty terrible athlete, but I can't even complete a baseball swing right-handed. It's one of the most unnatural motions.
   64. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: December 17, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4326969)
I don't understand why this is so popular.


Do you have a dominant eye?
If so, all other tings being equal you should bat opposite your dominant eye.

If you are righthanded, and your dominant eye is your left, if you can physically swing a bat as well lefthanded as righthanded- you should bat left.

   65. Jittery McFrog Posted: December 17, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4326977)
I've never understood why lefthanded guitar playing is described the way it. That seems like the way a righty should play,.

Back when I played regularly, the fingertips on my fret hand were callused to the point where I really couldn't feel much with them. I'd much rather have that on my non-dominant hand.
   66. CrosbyBird Posted: December 17, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4326988)
Do you have a dominant eye?
If so, all other tings being equal you should bat opposite your dominant eye.


I have surgically corrected vision, so not anymore. Prior to the surgery, I used to be left-eye-dominant for close vision and right-eye-dominant for far vision. Which side should I have batted based on that.

All other things aren't equal, though. I would think that you'd need to be substantially better from the right side to make up for the pitcher handedness and distance from 1B issues, especially at the non-professional level where it's probably closer to 90% right-handed pitching.
   67. Blubaldo Jimenez (OMJ) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4327000)
The only eye the Yankees should be giving Wells is the stinkeye.


The brown eye.
   68. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4327063)
Left handed at everything except bowling. I think I got taught that way.
   69. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: December 17, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4327115)
A sciency type once noted with great interest that I throw with my left hand but kick with my right foot; however he didn't say why this was interesting. Anyone know? Just a rarity?

Also I bat right, but he didn't find that interesting.
   70. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 05:29 PM (#4327122)
I used to be right handed. But then I started using the mouse with my right hand. So now I use my left.

I typically do everything with my right hand, but I can hit left (albeit with no power) and I swing an axe backwards (left on the bottom). I've tried to teach myself to throw left handed, and I just cant do it. I could learn to write left handed, but throwing just feels wrong.
   71. Ron J2 Posted: December 17, 2012 at 06:04 PM (#4327171)
#37 I bat right, write right-handed, eat left-handed (mostly), am very left-footed (soccer) and shoot left (hockey) but golf right. I still (mid 50s) can shoot pretty well and I'm a really lousy golfer so I might have made a mistake in golfing right-handed. But when/where I started no left-handed clubs were available.

Canada has a very high percentage of left-handed golfers because it's pretty common for right-handers to shoot left in hockey (nobody really knows why. This is much less common in the US) and an awful lot of people who shoot left will golf left.
   72. Ron J2 Posted: December 17, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4327175)
#40 nothing odd about shooting left at hockey. Thinking (way) back, if a kid is given a choice it's almost random which side he'll choose.

EDIT: Come to that, the choice is often made before the kid can actually shoot. Watch young kids play hockey on ice and the pretty much poking the puck a few inches at a time and reaching way out in front.

EDIT2: My first stick was left-handed. Didn't pick it, it was a gift. Picked basically because it seemed the right size.
   73. Karl from NY Posted: December 17, 2012 at 07:26 PM (#4327231)
I've never understood why lefthanded guitar playing is described the way it. That seems like the way a righty should play,.

I wondered this too, then figured it out when I started playing Guitar Hero and experimented playing lefty. It's the timing. It's not that hard to press frets with your nondominant hand when you've got a fraction of a beat (a third of a second or so) to settle the muscle motions into place. It's a lot harder for the nondominant hand to strum accurately within 10 ms of the beat.

I do everything right-handed with no exceptions. About the only things I can do at all with my left hand are throwing a Frisbee and juggling, and both of those are thanks to significant time of deliberate practice. (I'm still better righty at both.)
   74. Ron J2 Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4328077)
#55 Joaquín Andújar was a switch-hitter. It may be an urban legend, but the story I'd heard is that he'd often make the decision which side to bat from based on whether he thought the pitcher would be throwing at him.
   75. Dan Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:57 PM (#4328093)
Interesting how many of those BR/TL players are pitchers, once you get down a ways on the list. Wonder why that is. (I'd figure it'd be the opposite, more likely--pitchers hit so poorly, you'd figure they'd want to hit lefty and get the platoon advantage more often than not. Or maybe it's not something they have that kind of control over.)


You'd think that batting righty would be discouraged left handed pitchers simply because it leaves their pitching elbow exposed and at risk of injury from HBP. they're going to be crappy hitters either way, so why not just make them bat lefty and get their pitching arms out of harm's way?
   76. puck Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:59 PM (#4328094)
I wondered this too, then figured it out when I started playing Guitar Hero and experimented playing lefty. It's the timing. It's not that hard to press frets with your nondominant hand when you've got a fraction of a beat (a third of a second or so) to settle the muscle motions into place. It's a lot harder for the nondominant hand to strum accurately within 10 ms of the beat.

It's that and the touch and attack of picking, with a pick or finger picking. You need to do a lot more subtle movements with the picking hand.
   77. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: December 19, 2012 at 12:22 AM (#4328239)
So I'm not the only one who does every thing with the left hand and kicks with the right leg. trying to think back I have no idea why this is just seems like i can get more power out of my right leg. And I do know my right arm is stronger then my left (but that's a whole different issue there)
   78. Belfry Bob Posted: December 19, 2012 at 02:38 AM (#4328280)
I am a lefty, and have always hit RH, and my dad was a lefty, too. I remember how he'd say I was 'doing it backwards.' As I grew older and started playing ball, I had a very nice level 'straight on' swing, the ball usually on a line to center. When I started playing Ponce de Leon in my forties, it was the first time I tried swinging left - I found that lefty, I was a dead pull hitter, and could suddenly hit home runs. I didn't make contact as often, but when I did the ball went a long way.

I play guitar right, soccer left, dribble right, golf right.
   79. Squash Posted: December 19, 2012 at 02:50 AM (#4328288)
I wonder if there's any connection at all between swinging a bat righty and being right-handed. Why do we call it "batting right-handed", anyway?

I don't know why we call it batting right-handed (good question) but part of the correlation is that the footwork is the same. If you're throwing/batting right-handed you're leading with your left foot and anchoring with your right foot, and vice versa. The seems to matter for most people - using one foot as a consistent anchor, the other as a consistent approach.
   80. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: December 19, 2012 at 08:01 AM (#4328326)
I touch myself with both hands. Sometimes, at the same time.
   81. AROM Posted: December 19, 2012 at 09:43 AM (#4328358)
When I started playing Ponce de Leon in my forties, it was the first time I tried swinging left - I found that lefty, I was a dead pull hitter, and could suddenly hit home runs.


Sudden power in your forties? Steroids.
   82. Greg K Posted: December 19, 2012 at 09:44 AM (#4328359)
I play guitar left-handed (or bass guitar more accurately). But I just take a right-handed guitar and play it upside down. Changing strings is so much work! Plus, it just makes sense. The low string should be lowest!

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