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Saturday, September 29, 2012

Yankees fall to Blue Jays, give Orioles a shot to tie for AL East lead

Yeah, but Michael the Kay got off the best line of the day…“And Derek Jeter has taken over at SS to shore up the Yankee defense.”

The waiting game begins now for the Yankees. After losing to the Blue Jays this afternoon, 3-2, at Rogers Centre, they will now wait on the score of tonight’s Orioles-Red Sox game. A Baltimore victory will create a tie at the top with four games remaining for both the Yankees and Orioles. That game begins at 7 p.m. in Baltimore.

The Yankees squandered a number of chances to blow this game open early and paid the price later for not capitalizing. They loaded the bases with no one out in the first and managed to push a couple of runs across on sacrifice flies by Nick Swisher and Curtis Granderson. But when they loaded the bases again in the third, they came up empty. And in the fifth, after the first two men reached base, again they came up with no runs.

Andy Pettitte pitched 5 2/3 innings, allowing three runs on five hits. He left the game with the score tied 2-2, but Joba Chamberlain came in and gave up a two-out double to Adeiny Hechevarria, which gave the Jays a lead they would not relinquish.

A day after driving in nine runs with two out hits, the Yankees went 2-for-11 with runners in scoring position, and neither of those hits produced a run.

Repoz Posted: September 29, 2012 at 05:15 PM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 29, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4248983)
One of those patented "personal" strike zones didn't help**, not to mention another bad call on Gardner's steal of second and Ichiro getting picked off, but that great play by Hechavarria saved two runs, and that 2-for-11 with runners in scoring position was obviously the main culprit. They had Romero repeatedly on the ropes and couldn't produce when they could have put the game away early. It's been a familiar pattern with the Yanks all year.

**At least twice the Toronto announcers said that the Jays "got a break" on a called third strike, and they also said the same thing when Gardner was called out on the steal.
   2. JE (Jason) Posted: September 29, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4248987)
Yeah, but Michael the Kay got off the best line of the day…“And Derek Jeter has taken over at SS to shore up the Yankee defense.”

And in the process Girardi gave up the DH!
   3. Baldrick Posted: September 29, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4248988)
I watched the game and there seemed like some questionable strike calls. So I checked pitchFX and basically every one was actually correct.

Are there specific PAs that the ump is thought to have egregiously messed up?
   4. AROM Posted: September 29, 2012 at 05:55 PM (#4248994)
I heard Kay's reasoning about Girardi taking Nunez out. What's the real story? Did he get hurt? Say something offensive to a coach? Have a sudden case of violent diarrhea?
   5.     Hey Gurl Posted: September 29, 2012 at 05:56 PM (#4248996)
More interestingly, the Jays used someone named Shawn Hill in today's game, given them 34 pitchers used on the season and sole possession of second place all time, behind the 37 used by the 2002 Padres.
   6. Loren F. Posted: September 29, 2012 at 06:03 PM (#4248998)
I just want to point out that A-Rod last homered on Sept. 14, and it is looking like he will never, ever hit another HR again.

This team has actually come back in the late innings frequently, but it does seem like the most un-clutch Yankees squad in years. (I know clutch hitting is not a proven, repeatable skill, but hitting with RISP is a real stat at which this team has shown ineptitude.)
   7. Papa Squid Posted: September 29, 2012 at 06:15 PM (#4249002)
I also thought Gardner was safe, sitting two rows up the third-base line... but who am I to gainsay the ump? Surely, he had a better vantage point! Good job by the pen to hold the Yankees after Romero went down early.

Also cleaned up in the "Fan Appreciation Weekend" sale -- got a fitted Jays cap, one of them Alomar jerseys, and Bautista and Lawrie T-shirts, all for under $200, taxes in. Let the good times roll! Despite going to about 10 games a year, I also discovered they display the World Series trophies in the memorabilia section of the main store. I had never seen them in person before. Had no idea they were so big.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 29, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4249007)
IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING???????
   9. DKDC Posted: September 29, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4249008)
Lets ####### go, Os.

I love this season so much.

No matter what happens, the fact that the Yankees have to tune in and sweat through some Orioles games is just priceless.
   10. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 29, 2012 at 06:50 PM (#4249010)
More interestingly, the Jays used someone named Shawn Hill in today's game, given them 34 pitchers used on the season and sole possession of second place all time, behind the 37 used by the 2002 Padres.

That's Canadian Shawn Hill, who helped Canada land a spot in the WBC just this past week.

So double-yay for him!
   11. AndrewJ Posted: September 29, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4249012)
The waiting game begins now for the Yankees.


The waiting game sucks. Let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos!
   12. Greg K Posted: September 29, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4249023)
They had Romero repeatedly on the ropes and couldn't produce when they could have put the game away early. It's been a familiar pattern with the Yanks all year.

I'd rather have that as the familiar pattern all year than the old and tired "Romero on the ropes" one.
   13. akrasian Posted: September 29, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4249071)
And the O's held on. All tied up with 4 games to go.
   14. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: September 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM (#4249075)
Tough day. Tough month, if you're a Yankee fan.

But let me double down.

I've been a Yankee fan since before I knew how to talk. My grandfather saw Babe Ruth play, my father saw Mickey Mantle play. People around here won't like this statement, but someday I'll tell my (hypothetical) children that I saw Derek Jeter play.

People like me root for laundry. There have been Yankees during my fandom who certainly did terrible things to other people, leading horrible little lives. I don't condone this; no one asked me to. But if they hit home runs or pitched well, I cheered for them. They helped my team, who I root for in a geographical accident of my birth, win ballgames.

In real life, there are sometimes terrible stresses. And sometimes I'll plug away at a task for months, only to have no real idea whether it led to the common good or not. In my baseball life, the stresses are more abstract, less real. The Yankees this month and today in particular have shown this better than I can say it. But no one died. No one went broke. No one went to bed hungry. In three hours, each game is a little battle with definite winners and losers. They keep score; no one can spin today as a Yankee victory.

I've been through some wrenching situations (and a lot of glorious ones; more than anyone has any right to expect). I know that it's very natural to protect yourself by distancing yourself from the team. "I hate this team" from a fan is one such statement. Maybe that's how their fandom works; jumping on and off the bandwagon. But that's not how I was taught.
   15. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: September 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM (#4249076)
First place Orioles, wow.
   16. boteman Posted: September 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM (#4249090)
First place Orioles, wow.

Now, if that can be said Thursday morning...
   17. Bruce Markusen Posted: September 29, 2012 at 10:47 PM (#4249093)
As a Yankee fan, this is a hard team to root for. They've won 91 games, largely on the strength of a midseason burst, but they don't really play the game all that well or all that smartly. They are horrendous at situational hitting, terrible with runners in scoring position, don't run the bases particularly well, don't make good defensive decisions, don't do a good job at holding leads. They have a lot of tendencies of bad teams, but obviously win far more often than a bad team because they have some talent.

Just look at today's game as an example. The Blue Jays were trying to give them the game, but the Yankees did the following:

*Continuing a season-long theme, they went 2-for-11 with runners in scoring positions. Bases loaded, no one out, they don't score.

*Ichiro gets picked off in the late innings, stunting a potential rally.

*A-Rod makes a bad decision on a ground ball that was definitely going to go foul, but instead he tries to make a play, but has no chance of nabbing Rajai Davis at first base.

*Robinson Cano fails to cover first base on a sacrifice bunt. To begin with, he's way too close to second base in a potential bunt situation, making it impossible for him to reach first base before the runner does. That misplay led directly to the winning run.

And let's not forget some poor managing by Girardi, who continues to play Andruw Jones despite the fact that he hasn't hit since the All-Star break. Jones twice comes up with men on base, and strikes out both times, including once with the bases loaded.

The Orioles, on the other hand, despite not having the same level of talent as the Yankees, do a lot of things that are emblematic of good teams. It's an interesting contrast.
   18. SOLockwood Posted: September 29, 2012 at 10:56 PM (#4249097)
And still, with 4 games (5 for the Rangers & Angels) left in the season, the team currently in first place hasn't even clinched fifth.
   19. sotapop Posted: September 29, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4249108)
Erik -- Well said. I grew up in upstate NY in the 70s and because of geography and time, such became a fan of the Yankees of Munson, Nettles, Piniella, Chambliss and later Reggie and Guidry and Gossage. Many times (can you say late 80s/early 90s?) it really did feel like rooting for laundry. I tell my friends, the Yankees are like family -- sometimes you hate some of the SOBs and have no respect for them whatsoever, but they're yours, like it or not. I've been gone from NY for 20 years, and lost a lot of the religion. But the Yankees are still family. Good to see someone else who feels that bond to the team despite all the frustrations.
   20. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 29, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4249120)
As a Yankee fan, this is a hard team to root for.

If you're looking for quality, this seems like their worst team in years, without a single player who really stands out in terms of even coming close to having a career year. With their consistent inconsistency being their defining characteristic, it'll be a minor miracle if they manage to make it to the LCS. But like with TVerk and sotapop and many millions of other fans from all 30 teams, it's the laundry that keeps me in line. And since Extra Innings came along and the games are so much easier to get, it's easier to get attached to some of the lesser talents like Swisher, Nova, and Russell Martin. Hell, I even liked players like Melky and Ricky Ledee, even though all they ever did for the Yanks was to look like they were having fun and come up with an occasional big hit. And when it's the laundry that's the appeal, you wind up particularly liking the Jeff Nelsons and the Paul O'Neills, redasses who get under the skin of every Yankee hater. But I'm sure that fans of every team have favorites who fans of other teams just don't "get", and the Yanks are no exception.
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 30, 2012 at 01:30 AM (#4249161)
A little 4-game winning streak (or perhaps less) puts the Yanks in good stead. While they might not look especially dominant this season, the same can be said for the other playoff contenders. There's something about a gritty, gutsy, hardscrabble Yankee team of plucky underdogs scrambling uphill towards the postseason. Worth watching. Besides, there's also Jeter defying Father Time to produce one of the best age-38 seasons. This team might well have 3 members of the all-time Yankee team, and that alone beats the CBS years and the late-80's/early-90's Steinbrenner meltdown. Stay calm.
   22. Belfry Bob Posted: September 30, 2012 at 01:50 AM (#4249164)
There's something about a gritty, gutsy, hardscrabble Yankee team full of $200M worth of plucky underdogs and guys on their way downhill when they aren't injured scrambling uphill towards the postseason.

Fixed.
   23. TomH Posted: September 30, 2012 at 07:05 AM (#4249182)
If I hear how NYY has stunk this year with RISP one more time, I'm gonna scream.

The Yankees are 5th in the AL in ERA.
They are 9th in OPS allowed.
They are 2ndin OPS allowed with RISP.

Their pitching has been incredibly clutch.
So the offesne has not; it evens out.

whine, whine, whine

   24. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 30, 2012 at 07:38 AM (#4249186)
It's always sad when Aura has stretch marks, and Mystique suffers from osteoporosis.
   25. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: September 30, 2012 at 08:14 AM (#4249188)
As a Yankee fan, this is a hard team to root for.

Buck up. It's impossible for the rest of us to root for them!
   26. Bruce Markusen Posted: September 30, 2012 at 09:39 AM (#4249204)
What does criticizing the Yankee offense for its inability to hit with runners in scoring position have to do with their pitching? They are two separate issues.

It has nothing to do with whining. It's legitimate criticism of a team that is very poor at bringing home runners when they need to.
   27. Loren F. Posted: September 30, 2012 at 11:39 AM (#4249249)
Make no mistake, I am a Bronx-raised Yankees fan, and have been since 9-year-old me watched them win the 1976 pennant. I don't hate this team. But I find this team incredibly frustrating --in a way, I believe, that one can only be frustrated by someone you know well and for whom you have genuine affection. I like A-Rod, weirdness and all, so I find the amazing unremarkability of this season difficult for such a remarkable player. I like Swish, so I am glad that he has had an uptick in recent weeks. I like Cano, but know that if Mike Trout didn't exist Robbie's failures with RISP this year would keep me from touting him as an MVP candidate. I like Pettitte, but never to the point where he was a personal favorite in the way that Cone, Bernie, Jorge, and, going farther back, Gator, Nettles, and others were -- but still, it is good to see him back and being an important part of the rotation. Etc. But being a fan of a rich and historically successful franchise doesn't cancel my right to gripe about the current team's glaring weaknesses: hitting with RISP; defense; a bullpen that is inconsistent; the awfully large amount of playing time allotted to Jones and Ibanez; and, actually, that I do NOT see this team as gritty underdogs, no offense. I don't see much entitlement here, and BTF posters like Andy, Cowboy Popup, Weekly, TVerik, Bruce, Clapper, (and maybe me) are miles more enlightened than the sports radio nuts that embody the 'obnoxious Yankee fan' stereotype. We don't troll about the Yankees, and I don't see in this thread any appeals to other fans for sympathy. So I don't see the need to rail against our railings. If these complaints about a flawed-but-winning Yankees team bother you, feel free to look at another thread.
   28. Loren F. Posted: September 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM (#4249256)
Or complain about us Yankees fans and I'll still read the threads. I need to read BTF and I can't stand to look at another Cabrera-versus-Trout thread.
   29. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4249268)
As a Yankee fan, this is a hard team to root for.


Buck up. It's impossible for the rest of us to root for them!

Yeah, there are always going to be certain teams that for one reason or other we just can't stand. For me it's been the Whiteyball Cardinals, the Lebron Heat, the Dallas Cowboys, the Snyder Redskins, and any team from Florida or Atlanta except for the Rays. No common thread among them, just can't stand the thought of any of them.
   30. Lassus Posted: September 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM (#4249269)
As a Yankee fan, this is a hard team to root for.

Always room for another Mets fan, Bruce! ;-)
   31. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4249270)
When was the last time that any non-Mets fan could root for the Mets as a backup team? 1999? And even then it was more anti-Braves than pro-Mets.
   32. Greg K Posted: September 30, 2012 at 12:26 PM (#4249271)
Yeah, there are always going to be certain teams that for one reason or other we just can't stand. For me it's been the Whiteyball Cardinals, the Lebron Heat, the Dallas Cowboys, the Snyder Redskins, and any team from Florida or Atlanta except for the Rays. No common thread among them, just can't stand the thought of any of them.

Teams I know for a fact I'll never be able to root for in my life:
Yankees, Ottawa Senators, Manchester United, Chelsea...if we're including international teams...Italy in soccer, USA in hockey.

Teams I can't imagine ever rooting for, but I suppose something could happen 40 years down the line...
White Sox, Tigers, Red Sox, Red Wings, Canucks.

Sort of a common thread of good teams in there (I probably should include the Lakers, but I don't think I've actually watched an NBA game in ten years). Although quite a few of them are not exactly world-beaters.
   33. Greg K Posted: September 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM (#4249273)
I always leaned mildly towards the negative with the Mets, but starting around 2006 I'm leaning towards positive, probably 2nd or 3rd favourite NL team. Mostly because nothing wins my sympathy like losing pathetically, and the Mets fans on BTF seem like a generally fun bunch to me.
   34. Zach Posted: September 30, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4249432)
When was the last time that any non-Mets fan could root for the Mets as a backup team?

I liked them when they had Pedro and Beltran. A team that has your favorite pitcher and your favorite position player has to at least be a backup, right?

I'll second the motion that the Primer Mets contingent leaves me well disposed to the team in general.

The only time I've rooted for the Yankees was 2001, for obvious reasons. With no personal tie to the area, having the Yankees as a backup team seems faintly ridiculous.
   35. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 30, 2012 at 06:28 PM (#4249446)
Teams I know for a fact I'll never be able to root for in my life:
Yankees, Ottawa Senators, Manchester United, Chelsea...if we're including international teams...Italy in soccer


The harshness of your comment just knocked down an Italian midfielder, and he's rolling on the ground in agony.

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