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Monday, August 20, 2012

Yankees’ Michael Pineda busted for DUI in Tampa

While Jesús Montero was found to be .261/.302/.394 in three separate readings.

Injured Yankees pitcher Michael Pineda was busted for DUI in Tampa, Fla., on a busy road early this morning after a cop spotted his speeding, “weaving” Nissan SUV driving without its headlights on, authorities said.

The burly Pineda, 23, “had a fixed gaze and his eyes were bloodshot, watery and glassy,” a Tampa police officer wrote after pulling the 23-year-old hurler over at 2:35 a.m. on North Dale Mabry Highway.

“I could smell a distinct odor of an alcoholic beverage coming from his breath, and his speech was slurred,” the cop wrote about Pineda, who was an All-Star in his rookie season last year with the Seattle Mariners.

The Dominican Republic native’s blood-alcohol level was found to be .128 and .125 in two separate readings, according to police records.

 

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   1. salajander Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4212985)
Idiot.
   2. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:07 PM (#4212987)
I understand that he went on to brawl with Brien Taylor.
   3. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4212990)
Can't wait to see him on the Yankees.
   4. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4213006)
True fact: 73.8% of all baseball-related arrests occur in Tampa.
   5. bfan Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4213016)
That is a pretty strong number that he blew; is the DUI number in FL .08 or .10, these days?
   6. billyshears Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4213028)
That is a pretty strong number that he blew; is the DUI number in FL .08 or .10, these days?


Is it? I thought .12 was basically just a few drinks (not that that makes it ok).
   7. Tripon Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4213029)
Still don't understand why people who clearly have the money to pay for a cab DON'T PAY FOR A CAB.
   8. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:36 PM (#4213032)
No, I think that's "legitimate drunk".
   9. Nasty Nate Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:37 PM (#4213035)
True fact: 73.8% of all baseball-related arrests occur in Tampa.


I was going to post something similar. A quick google search gives us a preliminary list of: Elijah Dukes, Carl Everett, Jordan Schafer, Strawberry and Gooden, Ozzie Canseco, and now Pineda.
   10. bfan Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4213039)
He weighs 265 on his site; I am guessing a "burly" and not playing Pineada tops that number. From the chart I looked at (wiki) a 240 pound person would need 7 drinks to get to between .11 and .13. I do not know the progression here, but if those numbers hold, he was hitting the cough syrup pretty hard. I am glad he was working out his elbow so hard.
   11. billyshears Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:41 PM (#4213042)
No, I think that's "legitimate drunk".


Can't be. It's almost impossible to drive if you're legitimately drunk. The body has a way of shutting that down.
   12. Curse of the Andino Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:44 PM (#4213048)

Is it? I thought .12 was basically just a few drinks (not that that makes it ok).


Figure .02 per drink, and then every hour you burn off .02 from your bloodstream, and... why risk it, walk to the damn bar or call a cab if you're gonna have more than a single Miller Lite (or an MLBPA-guaranteed car service, existence of which gives me no sympathy for these guys. At. All.) If Pineda's really "burly," given metabolism, could well be as low as .015 per drink, but still not worth it. At. All.
   13. bfan Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:45 PM (#4213049)
Can't be. It's almost impossible to drive if you're legitimately drunk. The body has a way of shutting that down.


You can't be serious. I have had many occasions in my life where a legitimately drunk friend made it to a car and was cranking the engine. I guess it all turns on legitimately drunk, but they sure acted to that standard. Walking was a challenge; making a heavy machine go 75 mph would have been a dangerous mess.
   14. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:46 PM (#4213051)
No, we're having fun with that idiot Congressman from MO.
   15. billyshears Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:50 PM (#4213055)
He weighs 265 on his site; I am guessing a "burly" and not playing Pineada tops that number. From the chart I looked at (wiki) a 240 pound person would need 7 drinks to get to between .11 and .13.


Good to know. Turns out I've been way too conservative on this (kidding).
   16. Greg K Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:53 PM (#4213059)
I had totally forgotten he was on the Yankees.
   17. Dale Sams Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:56 PM (#4213063)
S'what happens when u ban the other drugs of choice.

   18. SteveF Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4213075)
Eight of the highest BACs ever recorded.
   19. PreservedFish Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:06 PM (#4213082)
According to a recent Times article Tampa is arguably the strip club capital of the nation. It also said that strip clubs receive a significantly larger bump in business during political conventions than they do during the Super Bowl.
   20. Justin T., Director of Somethin Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4213089)
He wasn't slurring his speech. That was Spanish, you idiots.
   21. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:15 PM (#4213095)
Eight of the highest BACs ever recorded.
My wife does internal medicine at a public hospital. She's seen a couple of professional alcholics (all Polish men, iirc) in the .5+ range.
   22. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:27 PM (#4213107)
I read #21 as "couple of professional athletes". Sebastian Janikowski and ... ?
   23. zonk Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4213123)
I think .125 is decent. I wouldn't drive under that circumstance, but I think a well-practiced drinker can do that easily without being picked out of a crowd or even a small group as 'drunk'.
   24. Hack Wilson Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4213127)
The Dominican Republic native’s blood-alcohol level was found to be .128 and .125


Those levels are okay in the Dominican Republic so he should have diplomatic immunity.
   25. asinwreck Posted: August 20, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4213151)

Can't be. It's almost impossible to drive if you're legitimately drunk. The body has a way of shutting that down.


Maybe that's what Josh Hancock believed. He did, after all, live and die in Missouri.
   26. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 07:36 PM (#4213167)
Oh yeah, this was a good pick-up. I'm liking this move more every day.
   27. Walt Davis Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:02 PM (#4213209)
He should have Hank and Hal Steinbrenner taken away from him.
   28. madvillain Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:11 PM (#4213219)
I think .125 is decent. I wouldn't drive under that circumstance, but I think a well-practiced drinker can do that easily without being picked out of a crowd or even a small group as 'drunk'.


I agree. This will start the usual firestorm here, but ideally it would .1 and higher for DUI offenses. Anyone other than teenager is going to be slightly impaired, but not at a qualitatively different level than say being tired, at .08 and below.

   29. Lassus Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4213220)
Still don't understand why people who clearly have the money to pay for a cab DON'T PAY FOR A CAB.

I have heard it rumored that alcohol, instead of making you better-looking, actually makes you stupid. If only there was any proof!
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4213244)
Detectives believe alcohol was involved.

I also forgot he was a Yankee (but not a TRUE YANKEE)
   31. God Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:08 PM (#4213260)
Not to defend any of this stuff, but it 's nowhere near as simple as just calling a cab. The logistical headache involved in getting your vehicle home makes it a more complicated problem. Again, not that this justifies anything, and yes, I know some (but not all) cities have services you can call that will drive your car home for you.
   32. Leroy Kincaid Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:15 PM (#4213263)
#31: There's also the possibility that you have no recollection where you left the car.
   33. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:15 PM (#4213264)
I would like to personally thank SteveF for giving me 15 minutes of crying my eyes out in hysterical laughter. BAC of 1.48 is just beyond insane.
   34. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:26 PM (#4213272)
I agree. This will start the usual firestorm here, but ideally it would .1 and higher for DUI offenses. Anyone other than teenager is going to be slightly impaired, but not at a qualitatively different level than say being tired, at .08 and below.

There's a good recent history out on this (Lerner's "One for the Road")... BAC limits started at .15, way back in the day, because that was some kind of scientifically-derived "definite impairment" level. It's been moved down & down, not because of new science, but because of the relative ease of convictions. All it's going to take is one really bad case where a carload of kids gets killed and the driver was at .06, and we'll be seeing .05 as the limit soon after.

Also, the words "weaving," "fixed gaze," "eyes were bloodshot, watery and glassy,” "distinct odor of an alcoholic beverage," and "slurred speech" are all part of the DUI Reporting Officer's Macro Key Set. You say your eyes weren't bloodshot? Your speech wasn't slurred? Well, it's your word against the cop's, buddy. Good luck.
   35. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4213275)
Seriously. That site is amazing. Blowing anything north of .30 just seems impossible and I'm a BIG GUY.
   36. Bob Meta-Meusel Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4213285)
Still don't understand why people who clearly have the money to pay for a cab DON'T PAY FOR A CAB.


Yeah, absolutely shocking that someone who's drunk might exhibit poor judgment.
   37. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4213290)
Have you ever tried to calculate an 18% tip with a 0.125 blood alcohol level?
   38. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:58 PM (#4213291)
According to the calculator, the highest I ever got to was .219. Which I could believe. That was one HARD night. And we did that at home, so no driving was involved.
   39. zonk Posted: August 20, 2012 at 10:03 PM (#4213294)
Have you ever tried to calculate an 18% tip with a 0.125 blood alcohol level?


That's why I always just do 20%.
   40. zonk Posted: August 20, 2012 at 10:05 PM (#4213297)
There was a bar we used to go to that had a breathalyzer in it that was treated more like a novelty machine (it cost a quarter) - but it wasn't quite used for the intended purpose. Of course, setting aside whether the calibration was accurate to begin with, your BAC does get a lot higher on a breathalzyer if you just did a round of shots.
   41. cardsfanboy Posted: August 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM (#4213305)
Have you ever tried to calculate an 18% tip with a 0.125 blood alcohol level?
how hard could it be? you calculate 20%, subtract 2%(which is just the 20% with the decimal moved one spot).....I know I can do something like that with .25 bac. Basically if you can do it sober, that is something you should still be able to do drunk. Of course I don't think I've ever left a tip as little as 18% in my life for anything, so I wouldn't get much practice with that.
   42. Walt Davis Posted: August 20, 2012 at 11:02 PM (#4213341)
GB revealed as a bad tipper!

Not to defend any of this stuff, but it 's nowhere near as simple as just calling a cab.

Well, it is that simple if you have enough sense to call a cab to get to the bar in the first place.

This is the primary problem with "don't drive after drinking." The real key is to get people to stop driving before they're drinking. Drunk people making bad decisions is par for the course. Get them to make the right decision when they're sober and not drive to the bar.

Of course I lived several years without a car in not particularly non-car-friendly Chapel Hill (unless you lived walking distance to campus) ... and not driving to the bar had no effect on my (ridiculously high as it turned out) chance of getting into a car with somebody drunk behind the wheel. So it's not a perfect solution but at least you've got carpooling drunks which is better for the environment at least.
   43. McCoy Posted: August 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4213350)
Not to defend any of this stuff, but it 's nowhere near as simple as just calling a cab. The logistical headache involved in getting your vehicle home makes it a more complicated problem. Again, not that this justifies anything, and yes, I know some (but not all) cities have services you can call that will drive your car home for you.

This isn't hard.

a)call a cab to take you back to your car

b)have a friend pick you up and go get it

c)have someone drive your car home. They actually have a service for that

d)walk back to your car

e)mass transit back to your car

f)bike back to your car

Any and all of these options are all logistically easier than circumnavigating the glove with Magellan by a good deal.
   44. Steve Sparks Flying Everywhere Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4213372)
.128 BAC on a DUI? As a prosecutor on a reservation I have maybe a dozen of those cases come across my desk in a week. That BAC would be considered low considering our legal limit is .10 on the reservation. The highest I've seen is a .545 on a non-DUI case.

   45. madvillain Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:30 AM (#4213387)
.128 BAC on a DUI? As a prosecutor on a reservation I have maybe a dozen of those cases come across my desk in a week. That BAC would be considered low considering our legal limit is .10 on the reservation. The highest I've seen is a .545 on a non-DUI case.


Using my own experience as a fairly heavy drinker (averaging about 30 drinks a week) I'd say I could drive 90% as well on that amount. Everyone that has experienced driving after 4-6 drinks, knows that this is "buzzed" driving and not drunk driving. Is "buzzed" driving ok? I dunno. Personally, at this stage of intoxication I have noticeably worse reflexes, but I'm also hyper-aware that I have reduced capabilities and thus compensate by covering the break, going slower, reducing distractions, etc.

At around .15 and over, my brain starts to forget I have reduced capabilities and the part of me that wants to go fast has started to take over.

It's silly imo to arrest people for driving buzzed. The vast majority of fatalities involving drinking and driving are done by drivers that are drunk, not buzzed, but drunk:

To wit:



New research released by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) shows that in 2010, more than two-thirds of the 10,228 drunk driving deaths (7,145 or 70 percent) involved drivers with a blood alcohol content (BAC) of .15 or higher.


It's asinine to not differentiate in the name of some "slippery slope" "zero tolerance" policy. That the penalties for .08 and .18 are usually identical, is the height of special interest spurred government idiocy.
   46. GregD Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4213389)
fairly heavy drinker (averaging about 30 drinks a week)
I love to drink and I've had a few 30-drink weeks in my life, but that's a Cal Ripkenesque streak if you keep it going week after week, year after year
   47. madvillain Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:45 AM (#4213392)
I love to drink and I've had a few 30-drink weeks in my life, but that's a Cal Ripkenesque streak if you keep it going week after week, year after year


Eh, that's probably a little on the high side these days I guess. I find myself averaging about three a day. When I turn 30 here in a year it's probably time to start thinking about my heart and liver.
   48. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:53 AM (#4213393)
Can't be. It's almost impossible to drive if you're legitimately drunk. The body has a way of shutting that down.


You can't be serious.


He's not.
   49. Ken Griffey's Grotesquely Swollen Jaw Posted: August 21, 2012 at 01:58 AM (#4213410)
In college my buddy got taken to detox with a BAC of .368, so I made him a t-shirt touting the fact that he outdrank Ty Cobb's lifetime batting average.
   50. bookbook Posted: August 21, 2012 at 04:09 AM (#4213434)
I'm okay with living in a country where buzzed driving is illegal, thanks. About that being no worse than driving tired, the majority of fatalities on the road include at least one tired driver. (it may be a small percentage, but we are talking about 40,000 deaths per year.
   51. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: August 21, 2012 at 09:48 AM (#4213548)
Time to crack down. Blow a .08, even once, and you get traded to Seattle. (Harsh, I know, but we have to send a message. Think of the children!)
   52. billyshears Posted: August 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM (#4213659)
Of all the things I loved about being young and living in NYC, I think never having to worry about driving drunk or designated drivers might be near or at the top of the list.
   53. Blubaldo Jimenez (OMJ) Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM (#4213686)
fairly heavy drinker (averaging about 30 drinks a week)
I love to drink and I've had a few 30-drink weeks in my life, but that's a Cal Ripkenesque streak if you keep it going week after week, year after year


Meh, drink heavy two nights and pepper 10 drinks over the other five and you are there. It's a steady pace, but pretty doable.
   54. JoeHova Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4213768)
When I was in college, I had a job doing health surveys for the federal government. It was just asking people a few basic public health questions. One of them was "how many times have you driven drunk in the past year?" Normally the response would either be zero or less than 5, but one guy was like, "let me see, 52 weeks a year, 5 days of work each week, so, 260." He hated his job so much that he got drunk every day after work and drove home. The thing that surprised me was that he claimed to never drive drunk on the weekends.
   55. zonk Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM (#4213773)

Using my own experience as a fairly heavy drinker (averaging about 30 drinks a week) I'd say I could drive 90% as well on that amount. Everyone that has experienced driving after 4-6 drinks, knows that this is "buzzed" driving and not drunk driving. Is "buzzed" driving ok? I dunno. Personally, at this stage of intoxication I have noticeably worse reflexes, but I'm also hyper-aware that I have reduced capabilities and thus compensate by covering the break, going slower, reducing distractions, etc.


The reason I avoid driving even buzzed -- and I'll generally avoid driving after 2 or 3 drinks (and 3 would usually require a meal) -- is that this "hyper-awareness" tends to focus on things like the five-oh or following traffic laws to a 'T'. I think the bigger danger is that you're so focused on not getting pulled over that might miss something like another bad driver or someone running out between cars - I like to think I'm a pretty good driver; I've avoided a few accidents that would have totally been on the other guy... but I'm not so sure I'm alert enough to avoid those things if I'm so dead focused on spotting a cop.

I tend to enjoy my drink, too -- but I'm also lucky to live in an urban area where transit and cabs are plentiful. I exited my young and stupid phase without a DUI or alcohol fueled crash, so I guess I just feel like why push it?
   56. JoeHova Posted: August 21, 2012 at 01:15 PM (#4213803)
I think the bigger danger is that you're so focused on not getting pulled over that might miss something like another bad driver or someone running out between cars - I like to think I'm a pretty good driver; I've avoided a few accidents that would have totally been on the other guy... but I'm not so sure I'm alert enough to avoid those things if I'm so dead focused on spotting a cop.

Exactly. I used to know a guy who claimed the best way to avoid a DUI was to drive real fast down side streets with the headlights off. This ######## drove a big-ass van and was pretty much permanently drunk. I have no idea how he never killed anybody (or at least, never got caught killing anybody).
   57. rlc Posted: August 21, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4213923)
circumnavigating the glove with Magellan


This is a remarkably evocative description of Wilson Betemit's defense.
   58. Karl from NY Posted: August 21, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4214085)
I read #21 as "couple of professional athletes". Sebastian Janikowski and ... ?

Yaztrem Yasztrem Yatrzemski That Carl guy from the Red Sox.
   59. jyjjy Posted: August 21, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4214232)
Everett?
   60. OCD SS Posted: August 21, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4214333)
Everett?


You mean the guy on the science committee who knows a ton about legitimate dinosaurs?

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