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Sunday, February 24, 2013

Yankees outfielder Curtis Granderson breaks right forearm, out for 10 weeks

Matt Diaz’s and Juan Rivera’s lucky day.

NattyBoh Posted: February 24, 2013 at 04:23 PM | 52 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. asinwreck Posted: February 24, 2013 at 04:53 PM (#4375280)
   2. Dan Posted: February 24, 2013 at 04:59 PM (#4375282)
The Yankees really don't have much OF depth either. Diaz and Rivera are both decent options against LHP, but who plays against RHP? Seems like a platoon is likely ,but I haven't got a clue who gets the long side ABs.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: February 24, 2013 at 05:09 PM (#4375286)
Time to sign Bobby Abreu?
   4. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: February 24, 2013 at 05:12 PM (#4375288)
Evil Empire - as seen aflame from the Forest Moon of Endor.
   5. Repoz Posted: February 24, 2013 at 05:13 PM (#4375289)
Klap tweet..

"Cashman and Girardi both seemed stunned, w/no real answer how to compensate for Grandy injury"
   6.   Posted: February 24, 2013 at 05:14 PM (#4375290)
Damn, Bourn should have held out a little longer. Could have gotten that 10/240 contract.
   7. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: February 24, 2013 at 05:15 PM (#4375292)
Dodgers should dangle Ethier. He fits the Yanks' needs and they can afford him.
   8. catomi01 Posted: February 24, 2013 at 05:50 PM (#4375301)
"Cashman and Girardi both seemed stunned, w/no real answer how to compensate for Grandy injury"


Great planning...I mean, yeah, there's not a freely available 40+ homerun hitter out there (what's Bonds doing right now?) over the off-season (and willing to take a part-time role)...but there were no equivalents to Rivera and Diaz out there? Ronnier Mustelier could be an interesting option as well...but again, you'd want a lefty to mix in.
   9. eddieot Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4375304)
Time to trade for Trumbo.
   10. PS is probably burning the candle from both ends Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4375307)
Possible free agent solutions:
Aubrey Huff
Scott Podsednik
Bobby Abreu
Carlos Lee
Johnny Damon
and various other marginal players.
   11. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4375308)
Jim Thome, come on down!
   12. Gamingboy Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:33 PM (#4375317)
But... but... he wasn't even in the WBC! I was told that the only way players get hurt in Spring Training is if they go play in the WBC! HOW IS THIS HAPPENING!?!?!
   13. BDC Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:36 PM (#4375321)
Shame, pace all the jokes at NY's expense - a fun player to watch, despite the only way I ever see him is when he's been kicking the Rangers' ### :(
   14. Gamingboy Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4375326)
Actually now that I think about it, the Yankees don't have to worry about the missing HRs with Granderson missing from the lineup. They just need to convince Ichiro that he wants to hit HRs.
   15. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:47 PM (#4375331)
   16. NattyBoh Posted: February 24, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4375332)
The list of lefty hitting NRI's features Felix Pie, Tony Gwynn Jr., etc. Pronk in LF?
   17. Walt Davis Posted: February 24, 2013 at 07:07 PM (#4375339)
Jeter
   18. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: February 24, 2013 at 07:43 PM (#4375354)
Jeter


What's up with him? Haven't heard a thing all winter.
   19. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: February 24, 2013 at 07:46 PM (#4375356)
Aubrey Huff
Scott Podsednik
Bobby Abreu
Carlos Lee
Johnny Damon


What is "an uninspiring list of available outfielders" Alex.
   20. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: February 24, 2013 at 07:47 PM (#4375357)
And then it just hit me... Alfonso Soriano is available! Move Gardner to CF and LF is solved! WooHoo!
   21. Don Malcolm Posted: February 24, 2013 at 07:59 PM (#4375361)
Four or five weeks...not as bad as it could be. The Rays lost Longoria for three months (88 games) last year.
   22. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:10 PM (#4375366)
Well, this should help him reduce his strikeouts.

#8 - I wish the Angels could trade Trumbo to an unsuspecting team willing to give up value for him. Mark my words - Trumbo is going to be TEH SUCK this year.
   23. The_Ex Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:10 PM (#4375367)
Soriano is under contract through 2014...so forget him. Vernon Wells is also making too much in 2014.
   24. catomi01 Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:12 PM (#4375369)
I have visions of Eduardo Nunez out there...the more the yankees talk about him, the more I get the feeling they think he is Soriano (the one who was close to a 40-40 type of player, not the the one who is currently available)....don't know if it was serious or not, but the Trumbo post makes sense from the Yankees side at least...LF for the first month or however long Granderson is out....then split time at 1st, DH, and the OF corners after that...gets a little crowded if and when Arod comes back...but those things have a habit of working themselves out.
   25. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:24 PM (#4375377)
But... but... he wasn't even in the WBC! I was told that the only way players get hurt in Spring Training is if they go play in the WBC! HOW IS THIS HAPPENING!?!?!


This was my reaction too. There is a large segment of fans and writers out there that would have lost their minds if this happened in a WBC game but since it's a Spring Training game it's "oh what a shame."

Which is the right reaction. While I boo Granderson because of the uniform he's one of my favorite players in baseball. He always strikes me as a guy who loves playing the game and he's pretty fun to watch with a certain style all his own, distinctive stance, method of moving around, that make him interesting to me. I hope he fully recovers.
   26. 'Spos Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:40 PM (#4375386)
...he's one of my favorite players in baseball. He always strikes me as a guy who loves playing the game and he's pretty fun to watch with a certain style all his own, distinctive stance, method of moving around, that make him interesting to me. I hope he fully recovers.


This.
   27. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:54 PM (#4375389)
[20] reminded me of the obvious silver lining for MFY fans - this mandates the correct answer to the 'who should play CF' question. Gardner will start in CF and play so well that he doesn't move back. Playing the correct OF alignment probably isn't worth missing 4-6 weeks of Granderson, but it'll make up SOME of the loss.
   28. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 24, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4375390)
[20] reminded me of the obvious silver lining for MFY fans - this mandates the correct answer to the 'who should play CF' question. Gardner will start in CF and play so well that he doesn't move back. Playing the correct OF alignment probably isn't worth missing 4-6 weeks of Granderson, but it'll make up SOME of the loss.

It could also put them far enough behind that they actually become sellers at the deadline, which is desperately needed.

Unless Cano has non-Borasian demands for an extension, they should probably move him and Granderson for prospects. Throw in Kuroda and Hughes (if you're not going to extend him) and you could really get a head start on being good again.
   29. The Yankee Clapper Posted: February 24, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4375393)
Doubt there will be a significant external move since Granderson looks to miss only 4-5 weeks of the regular season. The Yanks won't want to part with anything significant for a short-term fix.
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 24, 2013 at 10:34 PM (#4375408)

Dodgers should dangle Ethier. He fits the Yanks' needs and they can afford him.


And trade for what exactly? Gary Sanchez, Mason Wiliams and Slade Heathcott are all decent, but not elite prospects. Not much depth after that, and very little pitching. Plus, with all these one year deals, you figure the Yanks might want to hang onto what little minor league depth they have. Yankee Clapper is right, I don't think there is a huge priority on winning it all this year, so just try to tread water for a month, maybe Grandy gives you a spark, but this probably isn't a championship season with or without Curtis.
   31. Bruce Markusen Posted: February 24, 2013 at 10:48 PM (#4375414)
Cashman is not going to make a trade. When is the last time Cashman made a trade of any significance? I believe it was the Pineda deal, which was over a year ago. Trader Lane he ain't.

Whenever a guy goes down with an injury, his MO is always the same. "We'll try to answer the problem from within." Never mind if they don't have any answers from within, which they don't. Melky Mesa is not the answer. When your outfield depth is Diaz and Rivera, two players that nobody wanted, you're in big trouble.

Cashman has simply had an awful off season. No catcher, no outfield depth, no right-handed hitting DH, no plan for Nunez.
   32. LargeBill Posted: February 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4375417)
Hafner in left?
   33. Tschingsch Posted: February 24, 2013 at 11:12 PM (#4375425)
Cashman has simply had an awful off season. No catcher...


Well, Russell Martin was only willing to resign with the Yankees if they let him play shortstop.
   34. RollingWave Posted: February 24, 2013 at 11:31 PM (#4375432)
Will the Yankee OF break the modern record for least homerun ever?
   35. Walt Davis Posted: February 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM (#4375436)
Hafner in left?

Hafner doesn't have the range for DH.

I have visions of Eduardo Nunez out there

I was gonna go here too. Makes a lot of sense, especially if their defensive data looks like the stuff we see. Even if they want him longterm at backup IF, it's a lot easier (usually) to find a decent backup SS/2B/3B on the cheap. Haul Cairo or Soto out of retirement and call it a day.

   36. SavoyBG Posted: February 25, 2013 at 01:10 AM (#4375459)

Well, Russell Martin was only willing to resign with the Yankees if they let him play shortstop.


He'd have more range than Jeter.
   37. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 25, 2013 at 01:20 AM (#4375463)
Will the Yankee OF break the modern record for least homerun ever?


Theirs and the Mets' are going to be like Sosa and McGwire in '98.
   38. Random Transaction Generator Posted: February 25, 2013 at 01:57 AM (#4375473)
Will the Yankee OF break the modern record for least homerun ever?


Theirs and the Mets' are going to be like Sosa and McGwire in '98.


What are the odds that the Mets OR Yankees OF (each) get more home runs than Sosa or McGwire did in 1998?
What are the odds that the Mets AND Yankees OF (combined) get more home runs than Sosa or McGwire did in 1998?
   39. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: February 25, 2013 at 02:12 AM (#4375480)
Cashman has simply had an awful off season. No catcher, no outfield depth, no right-handed hitting DH, no plan for Nunez.


It's not even Easter yet. He may have given up hitters for Lent this year.

I'll concede some or all of these points to Bruce when the time comes, but let's wait until Opening Day to decide who had what kind of offseason.
   40. Random Transaction Generator Posted: February 25, 2013 at 02:22 AM (#4375482)
Edit:
A double post 25 minutes apart?
That's impressive.
   41. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: February 25, 2013 at 02:42 AM (#4375489)
Cashman has simply had an awful off season. No catcher, no outfield depth, no right-handed hitting DH, no plan for Nunez.
Wasn't the problem primarily no money, and little to trade?

I do get a kick out of the guys over the years who were pooh-poohing the ARod, Jeter, Tex deals on the grounds that if they were overpaying the Spanks always had more money to spend. Nice to see it catching up with them.
   42. Benji Posted: February 25, 2013 at 03:41 AM (#4375494)
Saturday night my trade was ratified (Granderson, Pettitte and Wade Miley for Matt Wieters and Jeff Samardzija) and then this happens. Usually I trade for a guy and destroy his season. This time the reverse. I wonder what other strange happenings are coming in 2013.
   43. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:05 AM (#4375527)
But... but... he wasn't even in the WBC! I was told that the only way players get hurt in Spring Training is if they go play in the WBC! HOW IS THIS HAPPENING!?!?!

Laughed. Out. Loud.
   44. The District Attorney Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:32 AM (#4375536)
[20] reminded me of the obvious silver lining for MFY fans - this mandates the correct answer to the 'who should play CF' question. Gardner will start in CF and play so well that he doesn't move back.
Will it? They could alternatively reason that Granderson didn't have a chance to get used to LF, so he has to play CF.
   45. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: February 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM (#4375541)
Will the Yankee OF break the modern record for least homerun ever?


I don't know what the record is, but the 1978 Astros have to come close. 24 total from Jose Cruz, Cesar Cedeno, Denny Wallling, Terry Puhl, and Wilbur Howard.

edit: they got only 21 in 1982.
   46. bobm Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM (#4375569)
Team Batting Split Finder -- Play Index

For single team seasons, From 1960 to 2012, as Outfield (within Defensive Positions), (requiring G?160), sorted by greatest Home Runs for this split

                                                                                              
Rk       I       Split Year   G.  HR    PA   AB RBI  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS IBB tOPS+ sOPS+
1      CHW as Outfield 1976 161    17 2102 1902 147  48 20 .252 .305 .336 .642   4    93    77
                                                                                              
2      HOU as Outfield 1989 162    18 2107 1870 186  76 40 .244 .316 .333 .649  15   100    80
                                                                                              
3      KCA as Outfield 1965 162    19 2004 1786 162  44 16 .240 .312 .339 .651  11    96    75
4      KCR as Outfield 1975 162    19 2113 1874 201  66 33 .262 .327 .373 .700  13    93    88
5      CHW as Outfield 1992 162    19 2016 1783 169  82 24 .264 .335 .357 .692  12    93    91
                                                                                              
6      KCA as Outfield 1966 160    20 1983 1795 177  35 18 .235 .297 .336 .632  10   101    70
7      CAL as Outfield 1975 161    20 2096 1871 195  88 42 .260 .325 .353 .678  11   109    83
8      STL as Outfield 1976 162    20 2138 1932 192  92 36 .281 .337 .380 .717  21   110    98
                                                                                              
9      TOR as Outfield 1978 161    21 2078 1883 170  16 23 .258 .313 .356 .669   3   101    80
10     HOU as Outfield 1982 162    21 2038 1844 174  59 27 .253 .313 .344 .657  22   102    76
11     PIT as Outfield 1985 161    21 2054 1849 158  54 23 .255 .314 .349 .663  16   101    78
                                                                                              
12     STL as Outfield 1977 162    22 2125 1921 203  86 61 .269 .335 .369 .704  14    97    82
13     HOU as Outfield 1979 162    22 2062 1813 206 103 49 .288 .362 .395 .757  35   130    97
                                                                                              
14     STL as Outfield 1968 162    23 2141 1980 182  81 24 .270 .315 .378 .694  16   115    96
15     CLE as Outfield 1980 160    23 2123 1866 210  70 34 .288 .359 .389 .747  17   105   100
16     STL as Outfield 1986 161    23 2109 1903 178 159 41 .240 .304 .339 .643  14   102    71
17     KCR as Outfield 1992 162    23 1974 1770 176  47 20 .245 .310 .347 .657   9    94    81
18     KCR as Outfield 2007 162    23 2098 1863 215  32 16 .274 .343 .379 .722  15   104    85
                                                                                              
19     HOU as Outfield 1975 162    24 2176 1920 201  93 34 .283 .355 .394 .749  20   121   102
20     HOU as Outfield 1978 162    24 2064 1864 190 105 31 .290 .348 .401 .749  23   124   101
21     HOU as Outfield 1988 162    24 2117 1889 177 144 52 .262 .328 .362 .690  18   110    89
                                                                                              
22     KCA as Outfield 1967 161    25 1993 1780 178  24 16 .247 .313 .351 .664  18   112    82
23     SFG as Outfield 1988 162    25 2106 1846 208  63 41 .269 .345 .368 .713  17   108    96


   47. bobm Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:05 AM (#4375573)
For single team seasons, From 1960 to 2012, Franchise: New York Yankees, as Outfield (within Defensive Positions), (requiring G?160), sorted by greatest Home Runs for this split

                                                                                           
Rk             Split Year   G  HR   PA RBI  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS IBB BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
1    NYY as Outfield 1974 162  29 2174 229  26 21 .291 .358 .395 .753  24  .307   118   104
                                                                                           
2    NYY as Outfield 1969 162  33 1989 183  40 28 .234 .314 .356 .670  11  .258   105    77
                                                                                           
3    NYY as Outfield 1975 160  44 2084 208  56 30 .268 .346 .398 .744  12  .290   111   100
                                                                                           
4    NYY as Outfield 1973 162  46 2077 199  21 15 .264 .327 .385 .712  11  .281   103    89
5    NYY as Outfield 1967 163  46 2058 205  13 14 .233 .292 .352 .644  11  .256   110    76
                                                                                           
6    NYY as Outfield 1988 161  47 2151 260 103 24 .290 .357 .424 .781  13  .320   114   113
7    NYY as Outfield 1984 162  47 2060 260  32 15 .298 .350 .440 .790  15  .315   112   109
                                                                                           
8    NYY as Outfield 1978 163  50 2099 243  41 20 .277 .335 .421 .756  16  .294   110   102
9    NYY as Outfield 1989 161  50 1965 203  72 27 .264 .350 .402 .751  15  .296   109   108
                                                                                           
10   NYY as Outfield 2002 161  53 2044 252  14 13 .274 .341 .424 .765  12  .310    90    93
                                                                                           
11   NYY as Outfield 2008 162  54 2114 262  60 18 .279 .344 .423 .768  12  .308   100    97
12   NYY as Outfield 2007 162  54 2200 303  55 13 .284 .359 .441 .800   2  .307    93   104
13   NYY as Outfield 1968 164  54 2034 229  37 20 .240 .308 .384 .691  17  .248   127    95
                                                                                           
14   NYY as Outfield 2005 162  55 2116 261  33  9 .267 .333 .408 .741  14  .283    84    91
                                                                                           
15   NYY as Outfield 1992 162  57 2144 254  34 11 .273 .339 .425 .764  22  .294   108   110
16   NYY as Outfield 1990 162  57 2027 208  57 22 .250 .310 .399 .708   5  .290   112    89
                                                                                           
17   NYY as Outfield 1997 162  61 2189 318  49 27 .302 .380 .473 .853  21  .329   114   117
18   NYY as Outfield 1971 162  61 2077 263  33 24 .296 .380 .460 .840  27  .304   144   126
19   NYY as Outfield 2006 162  61 2153 257  49 17 .281 .354 .446 .800  11  .302    94   102
                                                                                           
20   NYY as Outfield 1979 160  62 2067 266  20 22 .285 .339 .444 .783  13  .296   113   101
21   NYY as Outfield 1993 162  62 2092 247  15 15 .282 .350 .455 .805  14  .312   104   110
22   NYY as Outfield 1983 162  62 2059 278  24 11 .266 .328 .435 .763  14  .273   102   105
                                                                                           
23   NYY as Outfield 2010 162  63 2037 231  56  9 .268 .354 .438 .792   4  .317   102   108
24   NYY as Outfield 1970 163  63 2093 247  43 31 .263 .354 .421 .775  21  .273   125    98
                                                                                           
25   NYY as Outfield 1991 162  64 2052 242  40 13 .249 .314 .406 .720  12  .273   104    95
Rk             Split Year   G  HR   PA RBI  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS IBB BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
26   NYY as Outfield 2003 163  64 2069 279  28 11 .273 .343 .440 .784  21  .292    94    96
                                                                                           
27   NYY as Outfield 1999 162  65 2101 299  23 27 .290 .375 .464 .839  22  .322   105   106
28   NYY as Outfield 2001 161  65 2130 240  63 13 .269 .342 .431 .773  16  .285   101    93
                                                                                           
29   NYY as Outfield 1977 162  66 2137 269  50 22 .298 .358 .462 .819  20  .313   108   110
30   NYY as Outfield 1985 161  66 2127 284  94 23 .287 .356 .461 .817  13  .301   112   118
                                                                                           
31   NYY as Outfield 1982 162  67 2122 276  24 11 .282 .343 .464 .806  15  .293   121   114
                                                                                           
32   NYY as Outfield 1998 162  71 2140 319  48 14 .299 .380 .482 .862  15  .329   109   118
33   NYY as Outfield 1987 162  71 2105 263  50 16 .267 .341 .425 .766  11  .296   103    94
                                                                                           
34   NYY as Outfield 1996 162  75 2160 309  38 19 .291 .379 .482 .861  23  .305   116   114
35   NYY as Outfield 2009 162  75 2107 264  35  6 .266 .351 .457 .807   8  .288    93   109
                                                                                           
36   NYY as Outfield 2011 162  78 2099 265  78 22 .260 .360 .459 .818   7  .298   108   119
                                                                                           
37   NYY as Outfield 1986 162  83 2157 274  95 23 .272 .357 .467 .824  14  .289   112   117
                                                                                           
38   NYY as Outfield 1980 162  84 2071 282  38 15 .267 .342 .455 .797  21  .275   107   110
39   NYY as Outfield 1965 162  84 2046 240  13  6 .261 .344 .457 .800  23  .278   141   112
                                                                                           
40   NYY as Outfield 2004 162  85 2144 298  15 12 .279 .369 .481 .850  14  .286   110   112
                                                                                           
41   NYY as Outfield 1966 160  86 2024 236  17 11 .248 .326 .441 .767  13  .252   127   104
                                                                                           
42   NYY as Outfield 1964 164  87 2150 286  22  5 .276 .369 .471 .840  22  .297   138   122
                                                                                           
43   NYY as Outfield 2012 162  89 2011 273  24 10 .247 .323 .453 .775  10  .277    96   104
44   NYY as Outfield 2000 161  89 2114 366  38 19 .289 .359 .495 .854  16  .302   111   107
                                                                                           
45   NYY as Outfield 1962 162  90 2176 313  11  6 .278 .379 .481 .859  24  .283   125   117
                                                                                           
46   NYY as Outfield 1963 161  94 2022 259  11 10 .261 .345 .473 .818  20  .259   129   117
                                                                                           
47   NYY as Outfield 1961 163 146 2111 363  15  3 .282 .378 .571 .949  12  .254   144   135


   48. SoSH U at work Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM (#4375577)
1 CHW as Outfield 1976 161 17

I suppose that helped make the South Side Hit Men look particularly imposing.
   49. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM (#4375593)
I do get a kick out of the guys over the years who were pooh-poohing the ARod, Jeter, Tex deals on the grounds that if they were overpaying the Spanks always had more money to spend. Nice to see it catching up with them.


See, this is sophisticated humor. The word "spanks" sounds like "Yanks", but it means getting your ass slapped. Hilarious!
   50. bobm Posted: February 25, 2013 at 07:20 PM (#4375951)
For single team seasons, From 1960 to 2012, as Outfield (within Defensive Positions), (requiring G?160), sorted by greatest Home Runs for this split

                                                                                     
Rk             Split Year   G  HR   PA RBI  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS IBB tOPS+ sOPS+
1    NYY as Outfield 1961 163 146 2111 363  15  3 .282 .378 .571 .949  12   144   135

2    CHC as Outfield 1998 163 125 2192 356  33 27 .292 .358 .535 .893  24   130   123

3    SEA as Outfield 1997 162 119 2106 334  13  8 .273 .359 .531 .890  26   111   124

4    HOU as Outfield 2000 162 117 2155 366  50 21 .309 .386 .570 .956   9   126   131
5    MIN as Outfield 1963 161 117 2124 294  18  8 .257 .348 .501 .849  11   124   124

6    MIN as Outfield 1964 163 115 2154 308  20  9 .294 .365 .529 .894  18   137   134

7    COL as Outfield 1997 162 113 2190 372  66 25 .316 .385 .558 .943  14   125   138
8    ARI as Outfield 2001 162 113 2134 345  30 20 .288 .366 .540 .906  43   130   124
9    SFG as Outfield 2001 162 113 2193 292  37 21 .274 .377 .524 .901  43   124   124

10   CHC as Outfield 2001 162 111 2098 324  17  9 .272 .359 .521 .880  46   128   118

11   LAD as Outfield 2001 162 110 2128 313  57 22 .277 .349 .510 .859  21   128   113
12   SEA as Outfield 1996 161 110 2156 366  34 15 .279 .373 .514 .887  27   108   119

13   STL as Outfield 2000 162 108 2143 323  34 18 .280 .376 .509 .885   9   118   115

14   CHC as Outfield 1999 162 107 2124 314  30 21 .281 .349 .508 .857  16   127   108

15   CIN as Outfield 2005 163 105 2134 314  17  7 .269 .360 .510 .870  14   120   122
16   CIN as Outfield 2004 162 105 2124 288  33 12 .252 .348 .477 .825  17   119   106

17   CHC as Outfield 2004 162 103 2155 278  40  9 .267 .333 .491 .824  15   109   104
18   MIL as Outfield 1979 161 103 2056 320  22 13 .277 .358 .519 .876  21   120   124

19   CIN as Outfield 1999 163 102 2188 301  59 21 .263 .349 .495 .844   7   112   106
20   SFG as Outfield 1963 162 102 2125 290  17  6 .287 .343 .513 .856  12   132   125
21   CIN as Outfield 1987 162 102 2168 318 118 26 .287 .364 .510 .874  32   130   120
22   TOR as Outfield 1987 162 102 2148 331  44 11 .284 .347 .502 .850  18   116   114

23   SFG as Outfield 1962 165 101 2173 358  37 20 .308 .368 .527 .896  14   127   124
24   CHW as Outfield 2008 163 101 2072 287  19 10 .264 .344 .495 .838   7   114   114
25   ATL as Outfield 2003 162 101 2173 359  26 10 .297 .379 .520 .899  21   118   124

26   BAL as Outfield 1996 163 100 2142 297  42 17 .273 .352 .494 .846  10   105   108
27   STL as Outfield 2001 162 100 2066 333  30 14 .295 .382 .540 .922  25   135   129
28   STL as Outfield 2003 162 100 2198 315  17  9 .292 .369 .522 .891  22   120   122


   51. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4376015)
1 CHW as Outfield 1976 161 17

I suppose that helped make the South Side Hit Men look particularly imposing.


Man, what an ugly-a$s team the '76 White Sox were. Painful. When your two best starting pitchers are Goose Gossage and Terry Forster, you're doing something wrong.

And the offense...yeecchh! No power, no speed, no hope. If I had grown up a White Sox (instead of a Tigers) fan in 1976, I woulda sworn off baseabll for life...
   52. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4376045)
Poor zop, wearing his nerves on his sleeve.

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