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Yankees prospect Gleyber Torres injured | MLB.com

Freak injury.

Jim Furtado Posted: June 19, 2017 at 03:45 PM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: gleyber torres, injuries, yankees

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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:08 PM (#5478762)
Should have limited his innings!
   2. You're a clown, RMc! I'm tired of it! Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:11 PM (#5478766)
will undergo Tommy John surgery and miss the rest of this season

Shoulda called him up when ya had the chance, Yanks.
   3. rconn23 Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:19 PM (#5478772)
Well, at least he won't be traded at the deadline for some pitcher who would be bound to disappoint.
   4. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:22 PM (#5478774)
Wow. That sucks.

I hated the Chapman-Torres trade when it happened, and Torres' performance has only confirmed my hatred of it... However, I suppose this also just goes to show that even when the talent/control happens exactly like you feared -- the old "performance in hand worth X in waiting" truism still has some meaning.

Still - non-throwing arm so I imagine that in the long-run, this means little more than just pushing his debut back a year or so. He'll still ultimately be subject to same amount of NYY team control/arb/etc and this doesn't seem like it should really impact his performance once he gets back.

It seems to me that this just means rather than all that starting in the 2nd half of 2017, that go date gets pushed back to 2018.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:25 PM (#5478777)
I suppose the silver lining is that the injury was to his his left (non-throwing) elbow. However, the uncertainty will extend into next season, so it's definitely not good.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:30 PM (#5478780)
I hated the Chapman-Torres trade when it happened, and Torres' performance has only confirmed my hatred of it... However, I suppose this also just goes to show that even when the talent/control happens exactly like you feared -- the old "performance in hand worth X in waiting" truism still has some meaning.

If I had to bet on the first player in that trade to undergo Tommy John on his left elbow, I don't think I would have picked Torres.
   7. Cargo Cultist Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5478782)
Damn it. This sucks.
   8. rconn23 Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:32 PM (#5478783)
I wonder if this means Tyler Wade gets a shot this year? He has been excellent in AAA, at least offensively.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:38 PM (#5478785)
I suppose the silver lining is that the injury was to his his left (non-throwing) elbow. However, the uncertainty will extend into next season, so it's definitely not good.

What uncertainly? It's his non-throwing arm. Once it heals there should be no impact.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:39 PM (#5478787)
The Yankees have promoted 3rd baseman Miguel Andújar to Scranton to take Torres roster spot; he hit .312/.342/.494 at Trenton. Meanwhile, Cashman denies that Torres or Andújar were Major League options this year, and gives Chase Headley a vote of confidence.
   11. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: June 19, 2017 at 04:53 PM (#5478793)
It doesn't seem like he's expected to be a slugger so it probably won't be a big issue. Shoulder injuries definitely have an impact though. There's a reason Adrian Gonzalez hasn't hit 30 homers since 2010.
   12. Satan Says Posted: June 19, 2017 at 05:04 PM (#5478801)
Sliding headfirst into home is dumb. A pretty bad idea anyplace, anytime, really.
   13. dlf Posted: June 19, 2017 at 05:08 PM (#5478804)
Somewhat different, but Braves' prospect Ozzie Albies broke his elbow late last year and has come back performing about as well as he did before hand. From a hitter's perspective, I'm not sure of the mechanics of the ligament replacement in the joint versus a broken bone there, but it's one semi-on-point datum.
   14. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 19, 2017 at 05:08 PM (#5478805)
Shoulder injuries definitely have an impact though.

I think wrist injuries are even worse. If he was going to get hurt sliding into home, much better that he effed up his elbow than his hand/wrist or shoulder.
   15. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: June 19, 2017 at 05:29 PM (#5478819)
Sliding headfirst into home is dumb. A pretty bad idea anyplace, anytime, really.

That's not what he did, and compelling evidence that it's less safe still has yet to be produced by anyone, anywhere.
   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 19, 2017 at 05:59 PM (#5478836)
What uncertainly? It's his non-throwing arm. Once it heals there should be no impact.

That's not actually guaranteed, but the larger factor is not knowing if Torres will be ready to be a MLB starter in 2018. Ideally, the Yanks would have had a half season at AAA, as well as a possible September call-up if they could have managed the 40-man issues, in which to assess Torres. Looks like they will be lucky if he's ready to go at the start of spring training. That creates something of a dilemma in addressing the non-Headley 3rd base options going forward.
   17. Satan Says Posted: June 19, 2017 at 06:03 PM (#5478837)
The 20-year-old infielder was injured on a headfirst slide into home plate on Saturday while playing for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre at Buffalo.


Fake news?

My compelling evidence is surgeries for Trout and Torres.
   18. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: June 19, 2017 at 06:19 PM (#5478845)
You could watch the video, you know.

It was as much feetfirst as it was headfirst. Started as one of those common and generally safe slides to the side of home plate with the intent of tagging the base with his hand as he passed. Then it morphed into something awkward and dangerous. But it wasn't really a headfirst slide.
   19. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 19, 2017 at 06:29 PM (#5478850)
But it wasn't really a headfirst slide.


It wasn't headfirst at all. He clearly intends to go feet first and reach out with the hand, then as you say, it morphs into an unsuccessful attempt at either.
   20. Satan Says Posted: June 19, 2017 at 06:45 PM (#5478856)
You could watch the video, you know.

Eh, I was following the link. Regardless, he didn't go into the plate with his feet. Which doesn't mean you couldn't #### up your foot like Stephen Drew.

Players get hurt playing hard, regardless, but I wince every time I see players expose their arms and shoulders to hard contact in a slide.

Adam Rosales skinning his face a couple weeks back was kinda funny.
   21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 19, 2017 at 07:44 PM (#5478885)
That's not actually guaranteed, but the larger factor is not knowing if Torres will be ready to be a MLB starter in 2018. Ideally, the Yanks would have had a half season at AAA, as well as a possible September call-up if they could have managed the 40-man issues, in which to assess Torres. Looks like they will be lucky if he's ready to go at the start of spring training. That creates something of a dilemma in addressing the non-Headley 3rd base options going forward.

He's 20, and Headley is signed through 2018. Don't worry about it.
   22. The Duke Posted: June 19, 2017 at 10:22 PM (#5478959)
Terrible slide - I wonder if those goofy sliding gloves help or hurt. It's suggestive that they should learn to slide feet fits and keep hands in the air
   23. Satan Says Posted: June 19, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5478976)
Didn't AJ Pollock do something similar last season?
   24. joeysdadjoe Posted: June 20, 2017 at 09:32 AM (#5479051)
Actually Andujar is on the 40 and Torres isn't . This relieves some of the Sept. roster glut in the worst way possible.
   25. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: June 20, 2017 at 09:50 AM (#5479056)
   26. wjones Posted: June 20, 2017 at 11:14 AM (#5479106)
So I guess he really isn't ready yet.
   27. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: June 20, 2017 at 02:24 PM (#5479307)
What uncertainly? It's his non-throwing arm. Once it heals there should be no impact.

Will he still be able to gleyb, or do elbow injuries of this sort tend to interfere with one's gleybing?

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