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Thursday, September 20, 2012

No truth to internet rumors of a PED suspension says Robinson Cano

Leads you here despite your destination,
Under the Melky way tonight…

Ever since Melky Cabrera was suspended for testing positive for performance-enhancing drugs, there have been whispers that Robinson Cano would be the next superstar to fall.

Those whispers blew up on the internet Thursday, as rumors and reports of a PED suspension for Cano exploded all over Twitter.

Asked about the rumors of a suspension, Cano told the Daily News there was no truth to them whatsoever.

“Not at all,” Cano told the News. “There’s no test or anything.”

Cano’s agent, Scott Boras, also told the Daily News that the rumors were baseless. He said his office had traced the allegation to a rumor that originated in the Dominican Republic, a reporter in the U.S. and a rival agent who has been saying that a prominent Latin player has been mired in baseball’s appeals process.

...Cano’s friendship with Cabrera made him a natural target once Cabrera tested positive, but the Yankees’ second baseman said he isn’t worrying about what other people say or think.

“You can’t control what people say,” Cano said. “There’s a lot of negative stuff out there and I can’t control that. I have to stay above that. There’s been the same thing for a long time. It’s something I can’t control.”

Asked if he believes his long-time friendship with Cabrera is the reason for people’s suspicion, Cano declined to speculate.

“I can’t say anything about that,” Cano said. “Somebody is trying to say negative stuff.”

Repoz Posted: September 20, 2012 at 10:22 PM | 41 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tripon Posted: September 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM (#4241721)
It would funny if boras was the leaker
   2. JJ1986 Posted: September 20, 2012 at 10:35 PM (#4241724)
I feel like newspapers should have a little more than rumors on Twitter before printing something that can hurt a player's reputation.
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 20, 2012 at 10:52 PM (#4241734)
It would funny obvious if boras was the leaker

he'll do anything for pub

(but, you gotta give him props, he built the Nats, after all..)
   4. JoeHova Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4241764)
I'm not saying that I think Cano uses PEDs but didn't an article/interview almost exactly like this come out a couple weeks before Melky went down?


edit: found it. It was on July 28th and Melky was suspended on August 15th. It has the same denials from player and agent. Of course, an innocent person would also deny using PEDs. I just thought the similarities were eerie. Hopefully for Yankees fans the denials are accurate this time.
   5. Mayor Blomberg Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:56 AM (#4241782)
A Major League Baseball official with knowledge of the league's drug testing confirmed that New York Yankees All-Star second baseman Robinson Cano did not test positive for a performance-enhancing substance.

USA Today
   6. Walt Davis Posted: September 21, 2012 at 03:38 AM (#4241805)
#5 ... do these people understand nothing about confidentiality? You can't confirm the good results and then "no comment" the bad results.
   7. Accent Shallow Posted: September 21, 2012 at 07:33 AM (#4241825)
Just once, I want a player to say: "Yes, these random Internet rumors are TRUE!"
   8. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 21, 2012 at 07:34 AM (#4241827)
do these people understand nothing about confidentiality?


I think they've made it pretty clear that they do not. Or at the very least they don't give a #### about it.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:33 AM (#4241885)
#5 ... do these people understand nothing about confidentiality? You can't confirm the good results and then "no comment" the bad results.

Well, Cano can waive confidentiality if we wants to. It's an individual right.
   10. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:46 AM (#4241900)
Of course an individual player can waive his individual rights, but it's still a bad precedent for MLB to comment. It just encourages more leaking and rumor-mongering, because from now on a "no comment" from MLB will amount to confirmation of the rumor.
   11. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4241910)
Of course an individual player can waive his individual rights, but it's still a bad precedent for MLB to comment. It just encourages more leaking and rumor-mongering, because from now on a "no comment" from MLB will amount to confirmation of the rumor.

Boo-#######-hoo.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:55 AM (#4241918)
Of course an individual player can waive his individual rights, but it's still a bad precedent for MLB to comment. It just encourages more leaking and rumor-mongering, because from now on a "no comment" from MLB will amount to confirmation of the rumor.

If the innocent players ask for their records to be released, I don't think MLB has a choice.

In any case, the guilty are going to be revealed soon enough anyway, when the suspension comes down. It's really just a timing issue.
   13. JJ1986 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:58 AM (#4241923)
In any case, the guilty are going to be revealed soon enough anyway, when the suspension comes down. It's really just a timing issue.


Unless someone wins an appeal but gets outed anyway.
   14. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM (#4241939)
Unless someone wins an appeal but gets outed anyway.

Boo-#######-hoo. Concern about such banalities is wasted when allocated to privileged entertainers.
   15. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM (#4241947)
Oh ####. I'm off to investigate that whole "ignore" function.
   16. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM (#4241955)
In any case, the guilty are going to be revealed soon enough anyway, when the suspension comes down.


Which is exactly why the official response should always be the same -- "When it is determined that a violation of the safety and health policy has occurred, the appropriate suspension will be announced when the investigative and appeals processes are complete. Accordingly, MLB will have no comment on any rumors of violations of the safety and health policy." Easy. Anything else means that the confidential process that you collectively bargained is not really confidential.
   17. JJ1986 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM (#4241968)
Boo-#######-hoo. Concern about such banalities is wasted when allocated to privileged entertainers.


I don't see how the right to keep confidential test results confidential is a banality.
   18. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:38 AM (#4241986)
That's because you hate freedom.
   19. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:44 AM (#4241993)
I don't see how the right to keep confidential test results confidential is a banality.

I don't see why you're concerned about a privileged guild that has a mere 1,500 or so members. If you're concerned about maanagement and employers violating the spirit and letter of their contracts with unions and employees, there are far more worthy avenues for that concern.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:53 AM (#4242000)
Unless someone wins an appeal but gets outed anyway.

At that point, too many people have the info to even hope for secrecy.

   21. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM (#4242012)
I don't see why you're concerned about a privileged guild that has a mere 1,500 or so members. If you're concerned about maanagement and employers violating the spirit and letter of their contracts with unions and employees, there are far more worthy avenues for that concern.


How about this: the constant leaks are going to increase distrust between the union and ownership, which will lead to the union being less likely to cooperate with ownership on things like this in the future. One doesn't have to have a purely moral concern, one can have the entirely practical concern that the constant leaks will lead to something that ultimately worsens the game.
   22. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4242022)
I don't see why you're concerned about a privileged guild that has a mere 1,500 or so members. If you're concerned about maanagement and employers violating the spirit and letter of their contracts with unions and employees, there are far more worthy avenues for that concern.


Yeah #### them all! They make more money then me so I should be able to trash them however I want!
   23. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM (#4242031)
How about this: the constant leaks are going to increase distrust between the union and ownership, which will lead to the union being less likely to cooperate with ownership on things like this in the future. One doesn't have to have a purely moral concern, one can have the entirely practical concern that the constant leaks will lead to something that ultimately worsens the game.

You are ignoring the possibility that most of the union (the clean players) want the users exposed and humiliated.
   24. JJ1986 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4242047)
You are ignoring the possibility that most of the union (the clean players) want the users exposed and humiliated.


Whatever their feelings are on the specific issue, the players do not want the owners to violate the CBA without consequences.
   25. Danny Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM (#4242052)
You are ignoring the possibility that most of the union (the clean players) want the users exposed and humiliated.

You are ignoring the fact that the union and the owners negotiated and agreed to a confidentiality agreement. Even if the union secured confidentiality against the will of the majority of players--which is pretty damn unlikely--the leaks can still be seen as bad faith acts the next time the union and the owners enter negotiations.
   26. Ron J2 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4242059)
#25 Worth noting that Marvin Miller predicted the current state state of affairs.

That said, I'm doubtful it will actually affect negotiations. Right now relations between MLB and the PA are as good as they're ever likely to be.
   27. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:44 AM (#4242063)
You are ignoring the fact that the union and the owners negotiated and agreed to a confidentiality agreement. Even if the union secured confidentiality against the will of the majority of players--which is pretty damn unlikely--the leaks can still be seen as bad faith acts the next time the union and the owners enter negotiations.

They could be, if the leaks are coming from the owners, or the players may just not care.

I'm guessing most players wouldn't give up any economic benefits to get stronger confidentiality.
   28. Bitter Mouse Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM (#4242066)
I don't see why you're concerned about a privileged guild that has a mere 1,500 or so members.


First they came for the baseball players, and I did nothing.
   29. JJ1986 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM (#4242067)
I'm guessing most players wouldn't give up any economic benefits to get stronger confidentiality.


They've already negotiated confidentiality. They shouldn't have to give anything up to get it.
   30. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM (#4242077)
They've already negotiated confidentiality. They shouldn't have to give anything up to get it.

Well, how are you going to enforce it? I'm sure it's not at all clear who specifically is leaking the info.
   31. Mayor Blomberg Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4242085)
Leaking which info? There was no info on Cano to leak.
   32. JJ1986 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM (#4242086)
Well, how are you going to enforce it? I'm sure it's not at all clear who specifically is leaking the info.


I have no idea. I think it's pretty clear MLB is acting in bad faith after Selig issued a statement that he was disappointed that Braun was exonerated and then fired the arbitrator.
   33. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM (#4242102)
You are ignoring the possibility that most of the union (the clean players) want the users exposed and humiliated.


And how do you suppose the clean players feel about clean players being exposed and humiliated?
   34. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM (#4242115)
And how do you suppose the clean players feel about clean players being exposed and humiliated?

How many of those have happened yet?

This Cano thing is just a writer's speculation.

Has there been an "official" leak that turned out to be wrong? Honest question, not snark.
   35. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:25 PM (#4242118)
This means his secret appeal with the league office is probably going on right at this very moment.
   36. PeteF3 Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4242124)
I don't know what an "official leak" is--the whole term sounds oxymoronic--but there were heavy rumors about AJ Pierzynski earlier this year that remain unfounded.
   37. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM (#4242127)
I don't know what an "official leak" is--the whole term sounds oxymoronic--but there were heavy rumors about AJ Pierzynski earlier this year that remain unfounded.

That's why the quotes. It's really hard to parse who's leaking, or just making up, what rumors.
   38. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4242406)

Has there been an "official" leak that turned out to be wrong? Honest question, not snark.


Wasn't Ortiz's leak wrong? Or am I misremembering that?
   39. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4242423)
Wasn't Ortiz's leak wrong? Or am I misremembering that?

I think people just soft-peddled it b/c they like him. Like with Pettitte.
   40. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 21, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4242449)
Yeah, checked with the Google. He was positive, but supposedly he didn't know he had until the leak.
   41. bunyon Posted: September 21, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4242492)
but supposedly he didn't know he had until the leak.

Of course. Withouth him a leak, there can be no test.

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