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Yankees to play exhibition games in Panama to honor Mariano Rivera

I think we’re reaching the point where “honoring” turns into “stalking…”

Guapo Posted: November 12, 2013 at 08:43 PM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: honor, mariano rivera, overkill, yankees

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   1. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: November 12, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4599002)
I think we’re reaching the point where “honoring” turns into “stalking…”


Nah, at this point, they're just doing it to troll RayRay ...
   2. JRVJ Posted: November 12, 2013 at 09:17 PM (#4599009)
As a Panamanian, who lives here in Panama, I couldn't care LESS about what Ray Di Perna thinks about this.

This is wonderful, and will help MLB regain some of the ground lost to Soccer (which has been pushed hard by local TV networks).

And FWIW, Rod Carew National Baseball Stadium is nice enough.
   3. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: November 12, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4599014)
For ####'s sake.
   4. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: November 12, 2013 at 09:27 PM (#4599016)
Further Rivera-worship = BAD

Increased attention for international baseball = GOOD

So it's a wash.
   5. Publius Publicola Posted: November 12, 2013 at 09:30 PM (#4599017)
Next: Yankees will wear black patch on their sleeves for 2014 season in memory of Mariano's deceased goldfish Pumpkin.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 12, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4599021)
It really seems to bother some people here that Mariano Rivera was a popular player respected throughout MLB, and is similarly regarded in his native land. Boo-hoo.
   7. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: November 12, 2013 at 10:02 PM (#4599029)
   8. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: November 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM (#4599031)
Further Rivera-worship = BAD

Increased attention for international baseball = GOOD
So it's a wash.


Those two aren't remotely equivalent.

   9. alkeiper Posted: November 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4599050)
Agree with #4. Playing exhibition games in different markets is such a common sense move that I wonder why teams don't do it more often.
   10. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: November 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM (#4599060)
I'm all about the exhibition games in other markets, so this part is great...

...but how come other great players of the last 20 or 30 years haven't had this same prolonged "farewell" homage?

1) Most great players have not been as well-liked and respected as Rivera.
2) He spent his entire career with one franchise.
3) That franchise is a big market team that won several rings while he was on the team, and he generally regarded as a key player for all of them.
4) He ended his career near the top of his game - he clearly could have played for additional seasons at a quality level of performance.
5) It's 2013 - times are different, media are different, stuff like this is just a bigger deal than in, say, 1983, when Bench and Yaz retired.
6) Rivera is one of the only great players of the Steroid Era that emerged without a whiff of suspicion or scandal.

Was Ripken kind of like this?
   11. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: November 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM (#4599065)
It's weird to be sure. As many others have said, you blow your wad here, what's left when Jeter retires? Build a giant laser and burn his uniform number into the moon?
   12. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM (#4599072)
6) Rivera is one of the only great players of the Steroid Era that emerged without a whiff of suspicion or scandal.


yet....

<ducks>
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: November 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM (#4599080)
"he clearly could have played for additional seasons at a quality level of performance."

maybe you're right and Mariano is wrong, but all he talked about in that farewell video saga was how his arm was killing him all September and he couldn't wait to get it over with.

admittedly, he won't turn 44 until later this month and he hasn't had a major injury that cost him a lot of time since 2012, and it's just his arm/shoulder that was killing him, so he would have had that going for him.

   14. Ray (RDP) Posted: November 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM (#4599083)
This has reached such an elite level of hilarity that there's really nothing more to be said at this point.

Though if I think of something I'll let you folks know.
   15. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: November 13, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4599112)
I think we’re reaching the point where “honoring” turns into “stalking…”


Nah, at this point, they're just doing it to troll RayRay ...

That was also my first instinct upon reading the headline, but I just now opened the thread and got beaten to the punch.
   16. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 13, 2013 at 01:59 AM (#4599133)
#14,

and the white coutesy phone is answered! Ray, I've been lurking around this for a couple of hours waiting for you to chime in. Funnily enough I do agree with you. There is now an inherent absurdity to this that it's now breached Monty Python levels.
   17. Monty Predicts a Padres-Mariners WS in 2016 Posted: November 13, 2013 at 02:18 AM (#4599134)
Agree with #4. Playing exhibition games in different markets is such a common sense move that I wonder why teams don't do it more often.


Absolutely. Forget Rivera for a second; why wouldn't the Yankees have a couple of exhibition games in Panama every year? Heck, do a barnstorming tour through five or six Latin American countries. The Marlins (the team the Yankees will be playing against) are going to Panama and it's still a good idea even without using a legendary player as an excuse.
   18. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: November 13, 2013 at 02:52 AM (#4599135)
Next season, whenever Mariano's not onscreen, all the other players should be asking "Where's Mariano?"
   19. JE (Jason) Posted: November 13, 2013 at 08:05 AM (#4599147)
Forget Rivera for a second; why wouldn't the Yankees have a couple of exhibition games in Panama every year? Heck, do a barnstorming tour through five or six Latin American countries.

On balance I agree, but don't sell short the logistical hassle (e.g., the visa process).
   20. Captain Supporter Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:09 AM (#4599184)
Mariano = class.

Ray = not so much
   21. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM (#4599185)
On balance I agree, but don't sell short the logistical hassle (e.g., the visa process).

Are there still certain players who can't go to Canada when their team plays Toronto? I can't remember the details, but I thought this was an issue at one point.
   22. Swedish Chef Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM (#4599187)
Build a giant laser and burn his uniform number into the moon?

Sounds reasonable. He should demand nothing less.
   23. VCar Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:13 AM (#4599188)
On balance I agree, but don't sell short the logistical hassle (e.g., the visa process).


Costanza is on it.
   24. zonk Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:18 AM (#4599189)
I'm waiting until our vernacular requires us to replace random nouns, verbs, adjectives, and adverbs with Mariano... you know, like the smurfs.

I Marianoed the Mariano after Mariano today. However, Mariano wouldn't Mariano the Mariano. Still, it's all Marianoey!
   25. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM (#4599191)
Pffft. Call me when the nation is renamed for Rivera, the Christ Child.
   26. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:26 AM (#4599198)
Mo was a great player on a great team and well respected around the game. They're gonna play an exhibition game somewhere and panama is as good an option as any.
   27. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM (#4599204)
Next seasonwhenever Mariano's not onscreen, all the other players should be asking "Where's Mariano?


I was coming in to make the same Simpsons joke.
   28. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4599207)
And FWIW, Rod Carew National Baseball Stadium is nice enough.


Which will be renamed for Rivera in a matter of seconds, I'm sure.
   29. winnipegwhip Posted: November 13, 2013 at 10:59 AM (#4599217)
Full disclosure - Yankee fan here. But I am convinced that Mariano Rivera is really The Devil himself. It is like the Simpsons when The Devil really appears at Ned Flanders with the tail and horns. Don't you people get it!!!!!

This can be backed up by Albert Brooks points while arguing with Holly Hunter in Broadcast News

Aaron Altman: I know you care about him. I've never seen you like this about anyone, so please don't get me wrong when I tell you that Tom, while being a very nice guy, is the Devil.

Jane Craig: This isn't friendship. You're crazy, you know that?

Aaron Altman: What do you think the Devil is going to look like if he's around?

Jane Craig: God!

Aaron Altman: Come on! Nobody is going to be taken in by a guy with a long, red, pointy tail! What's he gonna sound like?

[hisses]

Aaron Altman: No. I'm semi-serious here.

Jane Craig: You're seriously...

Aaron Altman: He will be attractive! He'll be nice and helpful. He'll get a job where he influences a great God-fearing nation. He'll never do an evil thing! He'll never deliberately hurt a living thing... he will just bit by little bit lower our standards where they are important. Just a tiny little bit. Just coax along flash over substance. Just a tiny little bit. And he'll talk about all of us really being salesmen. And he'll get all the great women.
   30. ptodd Posted: November 14, 2013 at 01:41 AM (#4599860)
Yankees have no choice but to dwell in the past, 189 is probably the sum total of their wins over the next 3 years unless the cheapskates open their wallets and live with the tax. This is a tax they have lived with for over a decade, and they survived well enough without the rebates too.

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