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1. TVerik Posted: February 17, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4063818)I'm not sure how common it is, but I do know Sabathia's getting paid year-round, too, and not just in-season.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=146
1. The commissioner has to approve the deal because it contains more than $1 million. Has the commissioner ever not approved a deal involving teams sending money?
2. Does the $18 million count for the Yankees or the Pirates in calculating luxury tax and other payroll-related items?
Well, they did block the A-Rod to Red Sox deal, but that was because the value of the contract was reduced, so it's not the same thing.
But I'm not going to miss him.
Back when Charlie Finley tried to sell off some of the A's. (I want to say it was Blue and Rudi but not sure I remember it right.)
It's a rule that should be at least updated if not gotten rid of I suppose but I think it's there to prevent teams buying players not to prevent salary dumps.
But I'm not going to miss him.
Amen, amen, and amen.
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Back when Charlie Finley tried to sell off some of the A's. (I want to say it was Blue and Rudi but not sure I remember it right.)
It was going to be Blue to the Yankees and Rudi and Fingers to the Red Sox.
I'd bet it is something agents try to get in contracts as a way of protecting against a strike/lockout situation.
I have vague recollection of a Yankee deal being blocked around 2003 or so. I want to say it involved Gabe White (who they eventually got). The only reason I remember that is that at roughly the same time the Red Sox made a deal for Scott Williamson that also involved a fair amount of money and either the Commissioner's office approved it or simply did not review it at all and there was a minor brouhaha over it. I could be completely wrong though.
Kuhn actually vetoed a deal involving Blue twice. Finley later tried to send Blue to the Reds in December 1977, receiving first baseman Dave Revering and $1,750,000 in return. Kuhn nixed the deal, seven weeks after the trade was announced, saying that too much cash was involved, and that the deal would "create competitive imbalance".
Diego Moreno, rhp
Despite obvious arm strength (he sits at 95-98 mph out of the bullpen) and a robust 26 strikeouts in 18 2/3 innings, Moreno has scuffled in two tries at Double-A, running up a 1.39 WHIP and allowing 12 runs in 14 appearances. His command is spotty, thus he's more hittable than he should be, but when he's locating his fastball and backing it up with an 88 mph slider, Moreno can be nearly unhittable. He dealt with a sprained shoulder in 2010, the same season he also drew a club suspension for unprofessional conduct. Some scouts like Moreno as a future closer, but he's already 25 and has little experience above high Class A. Despite this, 29 clubs passed on him during last winter's Rule 5 draft.
Exicardo Cayones, lf
The Pirates signed Cayones for $400,000 three years ago, citing his ability to work the count and his lefty line-drive stroke. He profiles as a corner outfielder because of below-average running speed. Cayones went just 2-for-32 with short-season State College last season to earn a ticket back to the Gulf Coast League, where he turned in a solid effort. Playing in the Venezuelan League's minor league, the Parallel League, this winter Cayones hit .370 in 92 at-bats and led the circuit with a .504 on-base percentage.
In the 1984 Abstract Bill James argues that it has precisely the opposite result. That by being able to sell Gary Ward they'd be able to keep other young, talented players that would inevitably leave when free agency rolled around.
I think soccer at least offers some evidence that this is wrong. Basically in soccer the question is when and not if a talented player developed by a smaller club gets sold. It's a little simplistic, but basically the backups at a top club are better than the starters at a mid table clubs (with the exceptions of players they haven't yet sold, and the odd successful reclamation project)
And smaller is a relative term. It's widely accepted that Gareth Bale (a huge talent on the team currently in third place) will be moving on sooner or later and Tottenham is not what you'd call a small club. Just not among the absolute (financial) monsters of the game.
Cayones's body just didn't develop the way scouts expected. He lost all his speed, and was going to be hard-pressed for playing time after the egg he laid in State College.
Wait, what?
Is there video of this? This is crazy.
Was that wrong? I gotta plead ignorance on this one. I've been on a lot of baseball teams, and that kind of thing happens all the time.
When Armando Benitez was 25 he'd pitched in more than 100 major league games.
Explanation or elaboration of this story can only just ruin it.
It's more specifically a groupie than just a woman. Basically the kind of woman looking to get involved (short or long term) with a minor league player. I'm pretty sure it long pre-dates Sarandon's Annie Savoy and that Annie was named for the term rather than the other way around.
Well it's not the only thing I don't understand about the pie in the face trend, but it's still something I wonder.
and astros fans think there is no market for wandy rodriguez????
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They want him because he's better than Kevin Correia, and they're willing to pay him like a 1.5 win player, which isn't a particularly high bar.
Yes. Burnett should be worth the money in a better pitchers' park.
The Pirates had a serious lack of dependable innings in the rotation. 200 IP of a 4.50 ERA would be very valuable to them to avoid having to pitch unprepared youngsters, or the Sidney Ponson brigade.
@32: Yup. The term Baseball Annie predates Bull Durham.
Wasn't some player cut on the hand or face in recent years due to a shaving cream pie using an aluminum pie pan?
Because the whole Matt Morris thing worked out so well for them.
Agree. It was the same in Toronto.
Ehhh... They need SP and I don't think paying Burnett 2/13 is terrible idea to do that. Who knows - there look to be two really bad teams in the NL Central and both the Cards/Brewers lost some big pieces. I think the Reds look like clear favorites, but everyone gets to play the Cubs and Astros 36 times, so there's that.
LaRussa to Matheny is the other "big piece". It's a lot harder to get a feel for how big an impact this might be, but you're talking about going from a Hall-of-Famer to a rookie here.
So, so much THIS. I have absolutely no idea why the Pirates would consider adding AJ Burnett. He's not even a high character player who could mentor the young'uns. This is a steal for the Yankees, even if neither of the warm bodies they picked up pans out. Both of them have upside, too. I just don't get it.
AJ Burnett just plain sucks. If he were a free agent, he'd be lucky to get 1/4M.
I would think that would work exactly the other way around. The most likely lockout scenario would seem to be from the end of the playoffs, until until sometime before, or into, the start of the next season. That's certainly how it played out in both the NFL and NBA last year. Now, most players don't care about being locked out during the offseason, because they aren't getting paid. But when that stretch represents about 50% of your annual salary...
3.86 xFIP last year. If you think that "sucks", you've lost track of what the word means.
That would be an excellent comparison, if not for the fact that Morris was significantly more expensive, cost a much better player (Rajai Davis) in return, and was pitching much worse at the time of the deal (4.50 xFIP at the time of the trade, following a 4.70 the year before).
How do you know?
All indications are that Burnett has been a diligent worker and excellent teammate during his time with the Yankees. He hasn't had much success on the field, and he looks like a meth addict, but to the extent that it's possible to judge these things from where we sit I think he actually is a pretty high-character guy.
Well, he doesn't know. But OTOH, xFIP ignores event sequence and Burnett has had all sorts of problems during his Yankee tenure with letting innings spin out of control. Consistently over- or under-performing one's peripherals does become meaningful at some point.
Sure. I just don't see any reason to believe that this spot, in particular, is where it becomes meaningful.
I think he'll do very well for the Pirates next year, probably better, at least at a cursory glance, than whoever the Yankees have replacing him in their rotation. This was a good move for everybody concerned, even if "Diego Moreno" is Spanish for "Romulo Sanchez". Well, the very local regional Spanish with its unique infections and whatnot.
I think he's closer to Jon Albaladejo, though you guys didn't get him directly from us.
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