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Tuesday, May 08, 2018

Yanks, Red Sox will take rivalry to London in ‘19

NEW YORK—The most historic rivalry in baseball will break new ground in June 2019, with the Red Sox and Yankees scheduled to meet in London for the first Major League games played in Europe.

The MLB London Series will be played June 29-30, 2019, at London Stadium, site of the 2012 Olympic Games, which will take on a baseball configuration for the event. The estimated capacity of London Stadium for the series will be 55,000. The Red Sox will be the home team for both games, marking the first time that the clubs have met in a city that was not Boston or New York.

I’ll almost certainly go, because hey! MLB in my home city. But Yankees v Red Sox? Bleah.

manchestermets Posted: May 08, 2018 at 10:36 AM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: May 08, 2018 at 10:56 AM (#5668432)
Very excited to be able to see a game or two locally, with the teams involved a surprising bonus for me. Amsterdam seems like it would have been a better fit, due to a more significant culture of honkballing, and greater accessibility for fans, not to mention a ready-made hometown player in Didi Gregorius. I'm not sure if Amsterdam has a location that would serve as a ballpark, though. Maybe Ajax's stadium? It's pretty ugly, though London Stadium's hardly much better.
   2. Baldrick Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5668445)
I'll be in France for this, and would totally go except it's during the Women's World Cup (which is why I'll be in France). D'oh!
   3. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:14 AM (#5668447)
I'm shocked that the Sox agreed to have both games be Red Sox home games. I'm sure they'll be well compensated for that. An expansion team in London is just a logistical impossibility but for a one off (or two off I guess) this is a pretty cool idea.

As a side note this will break an 87 year streak of the Red Sox playing every home game at Fenway Park. They last played a home game at Braves Field in 1932 (I suspect due to the fire) but unless I missed something on a BBRef search this is the Sox first non-Fenway home game since then (both Japan games in 2008 were Oakland home games).

I'll be in France for this, and would totally go except it's during the Women's World Cup (which is why I'll be in France). D'oh!


The second game is taking place on a WWC off day. The last quarter final is the 29th and the first semi is on July 2 according to the Never Wrong Wikipedia.
   4. PreservedFish Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:16 AM (#5668451)
Cool. I always find these international engagements fun.
   5. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:17 AM (#5668452)

They last played a home game at Braves Field in 1932 (I suspect due to the fire)


I'm reading Paul Dickson's Leo Durocher book, and he mentions that the Red Sox used to regularly play Sunday home games at Braves Field, because of blue laws in Boston that forbade Sunday baseball being played too close to a church. Leo exploited this to play a mean-spirited trick on a kindly used-bookshop owner (not making that up).

   6. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:19 AM (#5668454)
Huh, interesting. Thanks for that.
   7. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:22 AM (#5668457)
The article mentions that there are also plans for games in London in 2020 as well, though the teams to play have not been determined.
   8. geonose Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:45 AM (#5668476)
Curious question: Is there an actual desire amongst Europeans to see MLB and/or NFL games? Or does the interest largely come from ex-pat and visiting Americans?
   9. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:49 AM (#5668479)
I’ll almost certainly go, because hey! MLB in my home city.

You have a very misleading name!
   10. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 08, 2018 at 11:55 AM (#5668484)
Curious question: Is there an actual desire amongst Europeans to see MLB and/or NFL games? Or does the interest largely come from ex-pat and visiting Americans?

NFL certainly. MLB I would presume considerably less so. When I was at an NFL game in London, there were considerably fewer Americans around, than there were Scandinavians, Dutch, or Germans. At least from my observations. And those games are pretty much always packed, despite usually getting pretty awful teams.
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 08, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5668505)
I'm shocked that the Sox agreed to have both games be Red Sox home games.

Me, too, though for the last 10 years the HFA has been virtually nonexistent. 44-41 Yanks at the Stadium, 43-42 Red Sox in Fenway. Seems to me it would've been much more equitable to split it and have each team lose a home game and be the designated "home" team in London for one game each. From the competitive standpoint it shouldn't make much difference, but I can't imagine that too many Red Sox fans are going to like losing 2 Yankees games on their schedule.
   12. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: May 08, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5668517)
The most historic rivalry in baseball

The #### does this have to do with the Dodgers and Giants?
   13. Jay Seaver Posted: May 08, 2018 at 12:54 PM (#5668522)
I can't wait to ask my friend with the season tickets how much this annoys him. He's basically given up on going to games in cold weather, and selling the occasional Yankees game he can't attend helps defray the cost of his package. I suspect he won't be the only one that's kind of angry at the Sox for agreeing to this arrangement. Losing a weekend series against New York seems like it will be a non-trivial hit to a fair number of local businesses, from vendors to hotels, and I can't imagine anyone but Aramark has any actual standing to demand some sort of reimbursement from the team.

I, personally, am looking forward to an excuse to visit London in the summer (my previous trip was late fall).
   14. John DiFool2 Posted: May 08, 2018 at 01:07 PM (#5668528)
An expansion team in London is just a logistical impossibility


Until one of those SSTs currently on the drawing board finally go operational, maybe.
   15. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: May 08, 2018 at 01:29 PM (#5668538)

Me, too, though for the last 10 years the HFA has been virtually nonexistent. 44-41 Yanks at the Stadium, 43-42 Red Sox in Fenway. Seems to me it would've been much more equitable to split it and have each team lose a home game and be the designated "home" team in London for one game each. From the competitive standpoint it shouldn't make much difference, but I can't imagine that too many Red Sox fans are going to like losing 2 Yankees games on their schedule.


Oh I'm not thinking of it from the competitive standpoint, as you note that's effectively a non-issue. I'm thinking of it from the pure financial standpoint. Sell out, concessions, parking plus all the issues Jay mentions in 13. I suspect he's right that ARAMARK will have some standing on the lost two dates.
   16. manchestermets Posted: May 08, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5668547)
You have a very misleading name!


Heh, from Manchester but live in London now.

The #### does this have to do with the Dodgers and Giants?


Dodgers v Giants would have been a much better series - big name teams, but not so obvious. And the NL.

This will much more of an ex-pat event than the NFL games in London will be - baseball is much more of a minority sport here than football. Agree with #1 that Netherlands has more baseball culture - I'm sure there were plans to play MLB games there a couple of years ago that vanished without ever being officially cancelled.
   17. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: May 08, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5668559)
Until one of those SSTs currently on the drawing board finally go operational, maybe.


Jet lag is a bigger issue than travel time.
   18. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: May 08, 2018 at 02:21 PM (#5668569)
And the NL.


What the hell is that supposed to mean?
   19. SoSH U at work Posted: May 08, 2018 at 02:35 PM (#5668579)
He's a Mets fan, so presumably he'd rather see an NL game in London than an AL contest.
   20. dejarouehg Posted: May 08, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5668581)
Wonder if this has anything to do with JH owning an English soccer club.

Either way, I'd never want my team to play these junkets. No upside.
   21. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: May 08, 2018 at 02:38 PM (#5668584)

He's a Mets fan, so presumably he'd rather see an NL game in London than an AL contest.


Ah, I misread the remark. By putting that after 'but not so obvious', I thought it was a diss on the NL. My apologies.
   22. Baldrick Posted: May 08, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5668593)
The second game is taking place on a WWC off day. The last quarter final is the 29th and the first semi is on July 2 according to the Never Wrong Wikipedia.

Nice. Thanks for checking. I may in fact be able to go then. I've got some friends in London that will probably be willing to go with me. Could be a fun time.
   23. Brian C Posted: May 08, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5668603)
The MLB London Series will be played June 29-30, 2019, at London Stadium, site of the 2012 Olympic Games, which will take on a baseball configuration for the event.

How convenient that the stadium will have a baseball configuration for a baseball game!
   24. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 08, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5668615)
Looking forward to seeing the Queen throw out the ceremonial first pitch. Bet the old gal can still bring it!
   25. Lassus Posted: May 08, 2018 at 03:03 PM (#5668618)
The MLB London Series will be played June 29-30, 2019, at London Stadium, site of the 2012 Olympic Games, which will take on a baseball configuration for the event.
How convenient that the stadium will have a baseball configuration for a baseball game!


They should force the two teams to play cricket instead. Now THAT I would travel to London to see.
   26. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: May 08, 2018 at 05:41 PM (#5668768)
Looking forward to seeing the Queen throw out the ceremonial first pitch.

Let's hope the Brits have the good sense to bar Reggie Jackson from entering the country.
   27. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 08, 2018 at 07:19 PM (#5668815)
Well Phil Coorey, myself and a couple of others attended the Dodger/snakes games when they were here in Sydney a few years back and it was amazing. The way the Sydney Cricket ground had been converted into a baseball field was unreal. For the 2nd game we had seats in the old pavilion along the 1B line and sat right in front of the Dodger scouts and a lot of front office guys. Just and extraordinary experience to be able to chat to these guys for a few hours.
If you can attend these games, you beg, borrow or steal the money, you just have to go if you are in Europe.
   28. Richard Posted: May 08, 2018 at 07:27 PM (#5668822)
The games will take place during the Cricket World Cup, which England is hosting.
   29. Meatwad Posted: May 08, 2018 at 09:48 PM (#5668938)
I feel like that makes it good timeing for the game.
   30. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: May 08, 2018 at 10:50 PM (#5669003)
I’m hoping to make it to the games. I realize that is pre-season (at best) for soccer but if so would that be something worth attending? I’m a spring training regular so I’m cool with watching guys I’ve never heard of but it would be neat to see a place like Craven Cottage or Loftus Road.
   31. Baldrick Posted: May 09, 2018 at 01:19 AM (#5669051)
I’m hoping to make it to the games. I realize that is pre-season (at best) for soccer but if so would that be something worth attending? I’m a spring training regular so I’m cool with watching guys I’ve never heard of but it would be neat to see a place like Craven Cottage or Loftus Road.

Would be surprised if there's any soccer in England at that point. It's right in the middle of a big international break and even the very early season won't have started.

A bunch of the best teams in the world will be playing just across the channel, though.
   32. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: May 09, 2018 at 02:54 AM (#5669063)
The games will take place during the Cricket World Cup, which England is hosting.


Not only that, but the NYY-BOS fixtures line up with two big games - AUS/NZ across town on the 29th, and ENG/IND in Birmingham on the 30th. Cricket fans would be a natural constituency for MLB games, so that's a little strange. The London Stadium was also rejected as a place to host cricket games due to sun angle. That would be a real problem for the 'longer' 1-day format in the Cricket World Cup (300 deliveries per side, 6-8 hours for a game), but baseball might be able to work around it.

Tempting to try to get tickets for one cricket and one MLB game for the weekend if one were visiting London. Should be a good contrast.

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