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Saturday, October 05, 2019

Yanks, Twins epitome of baseball’s 3 True Outcomes

NEW YORK (AP) — Not until the 42nd pitch of the night was a ball was put in play to a fielder.

There were five home runs, 25 strikeouts, 14 walks, 13 pitchers and just 15 hits.

The New York Yankees’ 10-4 win over the Minnesota Twins in their AL Division Series opener on Friday was the epitome of what Major League Baseball has evolved into in 2019.

A 4-hour, 15-minute meeting between power-packed offenses was dominated by the Three True Outcomes — homers, walks, strikeouts — when the defense is superfluous other than the pitcher and catcher.

And yet this was still faster than when the Yankees play the Red Sox…..

 

QLE Posted: October 05, 2019 at 12:18 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: three true outcomes, twins, yankees

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   1. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 05, 2019 at 09:52 AM (#5886754)
53.8% TTO
   2. KronicFatigue Posted: October 05, 2019 at 10:01 AM (#5886757)
I don't watch much baseball anymore (regular season mets games while fiddling on my phone) but my god that was a boring game. Poorly hit fly balls that carried out for homers (yes, wind was blowing and RF is a joke), strike out after strike out. Every close play ending with a confused pause while players point to the dug out and coaches being on the phone. Not fun.

Also, why do catchers throw the ball after someone strikes out for the 3rd out. Does that happen league wide?
   3. Blastin Posted: October 05, 2019 at 10:52 AM (#5886768)
Yes.

There are a lot of "joke" corners. Fenway, the Crawford boxes, etc. YS actually played as a pitchers' park this year.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: October 05, 2019 at 11:09 AM (#5886771)
Also, why do catchers throw the ball after someone strikes out for the 3rd out?


I've been wondering this myself. Has anyone heard an explanation why this started?

   5. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: October 05, 2019 at 11:16 AM (#5886774)
It seems that guys do stuff like that all the time. When you watch the Sox if JBJ catches a fly ball for the third out Mookie takes off for the dugout and JBJ throws him the ball like he’s Brady throwing to Edelman. It seems to be a relatively recent thing but a lot of teams do it and I think it’s just guys having fun out there.

Thinking it through a bit I think part of it is that 20 years ago a baseball would get used for more than 2 or 3 pitches at a time. Balls are put out of play now if a mosquito farts on it so at this point it’s not a big deal. They don’t leave the “damaged” ball in play for the next pitcher. The worst part of this is it means that you can’t make the $1 bet between innings of “mound or grass” when the catcher rolls the ball back to the mound. As a little league catcher I always enjoyed doing that. Running to the dugout then rolling the ball and trying to get it to settle on the mound always pleased me.
   6. filihok Posted: October 05, 2019 at 11:47 AM (#5886785)

Also, why do catchers throw the ball after someone strikes out for the 3rd out. Does that happen league wide?

You answered your own question - to keep the players awake during the boring baseball game. Might be the only chance the fielders have to play with the ball.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: October 05, 2019 at 11:53 AM (#5886788)
at my first Wrigley Field game in 1986, I learned about the "mound ball lottery."

in the bleachers, someone would take up a collection - a buck apiece - and you would get your own half-inning. after the third out, the fielders invariably would toss the ball toward the pitcher's mound, with half-hearted interest in it landing there (they were never interested enough to see if it worked).

usually the ball came up too short, or too long. but if the ball DID land on the mound and if was your turn, you won the money.
   8. puck Posted: October 05, 2019 at 11:59 AM (#5886794)
In the Brewers' final series of the season at Coors field, after a K the catcher (Grandal I think) threw the ball into left field (and not to the left fielder). I'd never seen that before but I guess it kind of summed up their weekend.
   9. Captain Supporter Posted: October 05, 2019 at 12:16 PM (#5886796)
Anyone who thinks defense was superfluous last night either did not watch the game or did not know what he was watching. Poor Twins defense (Arraez, Cron, and arguably Sano although Torrez smoked that double) allowed the Yankees to erase an early 2-0 deficit and take the lead, and good Yankee defense (Judge) helped them keep it. This is the typical article of an individual who had a (questionable) thesis and was going ahead with it regardless of the facts.

Also, Yankee Stadium in fact played as an extreme pitcher's park this year (29 out of 30 in Park Factor).
   10. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: October 05, 2019 at 12:19 PM (#5886797)
Yes.

There are a lot of "joke" corners. Fenway, the Crawford boxes, etc. YS actually played as a pitchers' park this year.

I don't care what bref park factors say, it's not a pitcher's park.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 05, 2019 at 01:26 PM (#5886809)

I don't care what bref park factors say, it's not a pitcher's park.


Depends where you let them hit the ball. Old Yankee Stadium (pre-1976) had an even bigger joke of a RF corner, and was absolutely a pitcher's park.
   12. . Posted: October 05, 2019 at 02:01 PM (#5886818)
Not until the 42nd pitch of the night was a ball was put in play to a fielder.


Wow.

Complete dreck.
   13. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: October 05, 2019 at 02:05 PM (#5886820)
I don't watch much baseball anymore (regular season mets games while fiddling on my phone) but my god that was a boring game.


I'm a Yankees fan, I watched probably 95% of the games the team played this season, I live on the West Coast and ... I dozed off twice during the game.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 05, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5886834)
I got home at the end of the first and my attention never lagged, because the stakes were so high and the game went back and forth until LeMahieu really iced it with his three run double. And though I hate the strikeouts part of TTO, there was still plenty of drama, including two spectacular diving catches by Judge and that botched DP by the Twins that let the Yanks take the lead.
I don't care what bref park factors say, it's not a pitcher's park.

Depends where you let them hit the ball. Old Yankee Stadium (pre-1976) had an even bigger joke of a RF corner, and was absolutely a pitcher's park.

True, that 296' RF foul pole was even easier to reach, especially since the barrier was only about 4 ft. high. Players would fall into the stands all the time trying to prevent home runs. The biggest difference was that even in their best years, the Yankees ever had more than 3 or 4 players who could go deep to RF with any consistency, whereas today their entire starting lineup and half of their bench is capable of doing it. Back in the old Stadium, RH batters who could go to right were usually banjo hitters, while RH batters with power were generally pull hitters only.

The Yankee Stadium park factors for 2019 were 91 for batters and 89 for pitchers, while in 1961 they were 97 and 94.

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