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Saturday, July 28, 2012

YLT: Ira is perhaps getting closer to figuring out the date of the original “yo la tengo!” incident.

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Correspondent Ben from Jersey City, noting this investigation’s complaints about the paucity of detail in accounts by Roger Angell and Jimmy Breslin, alerted us to Ralph Kiner’s version,  published in 1987:

  In a game against Cincinnati, the Mets led by two runs but the Reds loaded the bases. The batter was the dreaded Frank Robinson. He hit a high fly to short left-center field. Chacon scurried back and Ashburn raced in. “Yo lo tengo,” Ashburn yelled, and, sure enough, Chacon pulled up. Ashburn settled under the ball and was just about to make the catch when he was bowled over by Frank Thomas, the burly left fielder. Thomas spoke only English. Naturally, the Mets lost.

Now we’re getting somewhere!  The Mets played the Reds 18 times in 1962, and lost 13 times.  Two of those 13 games had our principals in their rightful positions—April 25, dismissed as a contender in our initial post, and July 22.  Digging deeper we see that entering the bottom of the 6th inning, the Mets were leading by three runs.  Frank Robinson is the fourth batter that inning.  When he comes up, the Red have two men on, and one run in, in other words a mere baserunner off from Ralph’s scenario.  And yes Robinson hits a single!  (One of the challenges of this project is not knowing whether the play—assuming it ever happened—was scored a hit or an error.) Eureka?

What’s the opposite of eureka?  Reliable sources place Robinson’s hit landing in right field, a dealbreaker.

(Meanwhile, Ashburn, Thomas and Chacon play together four games in a row July 24-27, 1962.  I’ll get back to you on that one.)

Repoz Posted: July 28, 2012 at 02:20 PM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. dejarouehg Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4194579)
I heard this story many years ago but it involved Frank Howard, not Frank Thomas
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 28, 2012 at 03:44 PM (#4194615)
Frank Howard wasn't a Met.
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 28, 2012 at 04:06 PM (#4194639)
I had a Frank Thomas bat from his year in Cincinnati. My best friend's brother was a batboy for the Reds and had a huge collection of bats. He gave me the FT model, which we would play with. It was really, really heavy.
I realized it was gone about 15 years ago. I think movers we had in 1989 took it -- it's the only plausible explanation I have. I had played softball with some of the movers years earlier, so that would really hurt if my theory is correct.
   4. Jose Canusee Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:01 PM (#4194833)
Does anyone have a copy of the Amazin' Mets book (don't know the author) from the 1960's, perhaps it had that story and could say if it was known then (it could have happened and Kiner just gave the wrong batter
   5. Repoz Posted: July 28, 2012 at 09:38 PM (#4194868)
Does anyone have a copy of the Amazin' Mets book (don't know the author) from the 1960's, perhaps it had that story and could say if it was known then (it could have happened and Kiner just gave the wrong batter

The Jerry Mitchell book with the Willard Mullin cover? I have that.

Gotta go check.
   6. Lassus Posted: July 28, 2012 at 10:13 PM (#4194886)
The Jerry Mitchell book with the Willard Mullin cover? I have that.
Gotta go check.


Me too. Any luck?
   7. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: July 29, 2012 at 12:27 AM (#4194972)
<blockquote>I had a Frank Thomas bat from his year in Cincinnati. My best friend's brother was a batboy for the Reds and had a huge collection of bats. He gave me the FT model, which we would play with. It was really, really heavy.
I realized it was gone about 15 years ago. I think movers we had in 1989 took it -- it's the only plausible explanation I have. I had played softball with some of the movers years earlier, so that would really hurt if my theory is correct.</blockqutoe>Nope, I have it.

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