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You make me feel like a natural OMNICHATTER! for August 16, 2018

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Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 16, 2018 at 01:14 PM | 164 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 16, 2018 at 01:16 PM (#5728007)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: August 16, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5728015)
Hey Hombre - could you turn your LOSE focus on the A's for awhile? Getting a little tired of their streak.

Of course, Oakland is idle, but whatever.
   3. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 16, 2018 at 01:27 PM (#5728021)
Tanaka allowed 2 runs and 4 hits just getting out of the Top of the 1st and hasn't even given up the #OBLIGATORYHOMERUN yet, so it may be a long afternoon ...
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 01:28 PM (#5728022)
Yankees are 13-13 vs Rays+Orioles and 27-25 vs full AL East
Red Sox are 43-15 vs division rivals

and the Rays get on the board in the 1st vs Yanks - single, double, single, double to start game - and Snell is pitching
   5. TomH Posted: August 16, 2018 at 01:56 PM (#5728047)
TRIVIA for today (repeated as no one answered last night):
In last year's fine post-season run, the Dodgers played 15 games (3 NLDS, 5 NLCS, 7 WS).
In how many of those games did Dodger opponents hit at least one home run?
   6. salvomania Posted: August 16, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5728065)
I'll say all 15.
   7. salvomania Posted: August 16, 2018 at 02:08 PM (#5728066)
Nice to see Tommy Pham return from the DL with hits in his first two ABs today.
   8. rconn23 Posted: August 16, 2018 at 03:10 PM (#5728137)
The Yankees need another hitter. The front office not being able to realize this by now is a problem.
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 03:20 PM (#5728149)
The Yankees need another hitter. The front office not being able to realize this by now is a problem.

Who's available? Overpaying for Curtis Granderson doesn't seem likely to improve anything.
   10. TomH Posted: August 16, 2018 at 03:20 PM (#5728150)
#6 salvo is correct! Funny that they could have easily WON the trophy even while giving up a home run every single game. Welcome to modern baseball.
   11. rconn23 Posted: August 16, 2018 at 03:33 PM (#5728162)

"Who's available? Overpaying for Curtis Granderson doesn't seem likely to improve anything."

Maybe a platoon bat like Valencia who has an .870 OPS against LHP. I wish they had an actual working first baseman as well. That would help.
   12. rconn23 Posted: August 16, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5728166)
Greg Bird is bad at baseball. That Andrew Miller homerun seems ages ago.
   13. Baldrick Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5728205)
This game is giving us the best and worst of replay. The call on the field (home run) was TERRIBLE, and it was obviously so from the moment it happened. So replay is going to fix that! But then, it took them all of three seconds to show the replay in which the ball clearly hit the foul line on the wall. Except it then took them probably three minutes to actually make the call. What took so long?!?!
   14. Baldrick Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:00 PM (#5728208)
And now the Yankees are arguing the replay-corrected call. Great!
   15. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:02 PM (#5728213)
Hope that Hicks' ankle is okay. Going down another outfielder would not be ... optimal.
   16. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:28 PM (#5728237)
Greg hearing boo Birds ... but hey, he didn't GiDP, which is what I was really afraid of.
   17. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:33 PM (#5728242)
Well, that was a perfect summation of where the Yankees are right now; bases loaded, nobody out ... pop-up, K, K ... game over.

Pathetic.
   18. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:34 PM (#5728244)
Maybe a platoon bat like Valencia who has an .870 OPS against LHP. I wish they had an actual working first baseman as well. That would help.

Great minds think alike:

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Know who would make sense for Yankees? Danny Valencia, just released by Orioles. Valencia .873 OPS vs. LHPs in 125 PAs this season. NYY lineup today against Rays LHP Blake Snell includes Neil Walker (.510 OPS vs. lefties, 59 PAs) and Shane Robinson (.484 OPS overall, 34 PAs).
   19. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5728246)
It's always a thrill to watch a season go completely down the tubes. The truth is right now the Yankees are playing like a .500 team at best, which is exact;u what they've been for the past 5 weeks.

EDIT: coke to Count CoB
   20. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:35 PM (#5728247)
And now the Yankees are arguing the replay-corrected call. Great!

TECHNOLOGY ÜBER ALLES!!
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:36 PM (#5728249)
Except it then took them probably three minutes to actually make the call. What took so long?!?!

The real issue was where to put Stanton, and the umpires (and/or replay) got that wrong, too. The ball bounced a long way from the rightfielder, who crashed into the wall, with the centerfielder never appearing in the picture, but even though Stanton was running hard, they only gave him a double.
   22. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:37 PM (#5728250)
The truth is right now the Yankees are playing like a .500 team at best

Welcome to Washington, Andy! You could get the same scintillating experience by watching Your Washington Nationals, trust me. And without all the dashed hopes since you weren't rooting for them in the first place. I'd like to have a word with that soothsayer, CardsFanBoy.
   23. rconn23 Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:40 PM (#5728254)
"It's always a thrill to watch a season go completely down the tubes. The truth is right now the Yankees are playing like a .500 team at best, which is exact;u what they've been for the past 5 weeks."

The sad part is they were way too optimistic about Judge's timetable for a return. I honestly think they have no idea when he'll be back, and by that time it could be too late. If Hicks is hurt for any length of time, the team is pretty much done.
   24. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 04:58 PM (#5728262)
I was all set to check out this Mets @ Phillies game 1 when I saw it's only viewable on Facebook. Too bad.
   25. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:05 PM (#5728270)
The Washington Nationals unveil their new ambulance Washington Gas Light bullpen cart.

Earlier this season, Doolittle was the first National ever to use the bullpen cart at Chase Field, against the Arizona Diamondbacks. Afterward, he noted that although he had less time, he was not out of breath and “loved it.”

I ran one of these 5K fun runs and only "trained" for about 2 weeks ahead of time. That's 3.1 miles. Relief pitchers run at most 300 feet and they're complaining of being winded?!
   26. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:06 PM (#5728271)
The truth is right now the Yankees are playing like a .500 team at best

Welcome to Washington, Andy! You could get the same scintillating experience by watching Your Washington Nationals, trust me.


The Nats lost me completely when they started promoting that "Nattitude" slogan, which could only have been written by Poochie. The only time I've paid any attention to them since then has been when they're playing the Yanks, Orioles, or Red Sox.

-------------------------------------------------------------

The sad part is they were way too optimistic about Judge's timetable for a return.

I was figuring since it only took me 3 weeks to start playing baseball again after I broke my wrist, it wouldn't take Judge any longer than it took me.

Of course my wrist wasn't broken by a 95 MPH pitch, so maybe I should've allowed for that. (smile)
   27. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:12 PM (#5728274)
This pitcher for the Phillies is named Ranger Suarez.
   28. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:20 PM (#5728277)
Verrrry interesting play here.

The presence of Instant Replay rules complicates this even more. What the hell could the third baseman do in this spot to keep the batter from making it to third?
   29. Lindor Truffles Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:33 PM (#5728282)
^ Let baserunner score and focus on batter-runner, who presumably retreats to second. Once play is dead, appeal at third for the out. I understand why Andujar and others didn’t think of this in the moment.

My question is, if they had done the above but the batter-runner went to third, would HE be out since he touched third before the base runner? Does there need to be physical overlap to invoke “passing the preceding runner”?
   30. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:37 PM (#5728284)
HOW MANY RUNS WILL THE PHILS GIVE THE METS TODAY?

I've never seen a contender so weak in the fundamentals of the game. Their pitchers have great but defense, base running and putting the bat on the ball, ugh, tough to watch many, many games.

EDIT: As I typed, Jorge Alfaro fires an easy double play sac bunt into CF, allowing yet another run.

EDIT2: The next batter hits into an almost double play, which brings in another run. 9-4 Mets.
   31. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:38 PM (#5728285)
29- Does the umpire make the right call here? (Ie, “do nothing”)?
   32. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:40 PM (#5728286)
Facebook Watch resolution is fine on my iPhone. It is terrible on my laptop.
   33. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:45 PM (#5728290)
Now Rhys Hoskins dropped a long, high fly ball that he was drifting under. 10-4 Mets. Oy vey!
   34. Lindor Truffles Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:46 PM (#5728291)
^I believe the umps made the correct call. Appeals are the responsibility of teams and can only be requested with a dead ball.

With regards to my hypothetical about a “pass”, that was incorrect.
(d) Effect of Preceding Runner's Failure to Touch a Base

Unless two are out, the status of a following runner is not affected by a preceding runner's failure to touch or retouch a base. If, upon appeal, the preceding runner is the third out, no runners following him shall score. If such third out is the result of a force play, neither preceding nor following runners shall score.
   35. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:53 PM (#5728299)
Joey Bats with a GS, if I'm counting right, that 10 unearned runs in 5th. 15-4.
Even Jose Reyes gets a double.
   36. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 05:56 PM (#5728302)
I've never seen a contender so weak in the fundamentals of the game. Their pitchers have great but defense, base running and putting the bat on the ball, ugh, tough to watch many, many games.

and the Little Leaguers will get to see those Phillies (vs Mets) play in Harrisburg, Pa. on Sunday!

a great clinic for the coaches, who can explain every blunder and what the Phillies SHOULD have done

meanwhile, the Mets have scored THIRTY-ONE runs in less than 24 hours

someone alert the media
   37. bfan Posted: August 16, 2018 at 06:31 PM (#5728321)

meanwhile, the Mets have scored THIRTY-ONE runs in less than 24 hours


that Mets runs number is still growing. The Mets may wipe out their scoring deficit for the year today.

If the games ends as it now stands, the Phillies will be plus 18 for the year, thus joining the Mariners in the "WTF are they doing with that record" division (although no one can touch the Mariners in that regard).
   38. Chip Posted: August 16, 2018 at 06:34 PM (#5728325)
Kapler pulling out all the stops using 8 relievers to win yesterday’s game, knowing they had a DH today, does not seem to be working out well so far.
   39. perros Posted: August 16, 2018 at 06:43 PM (#5728330)
I've never seen a contender so weak in the fundamentals of the game. Their pitchers have great but defense, base running and putting the bat on the ball, ugh, tough to watch many, many games.


Without the ####### they'd put you to sleep before the seventh inning. I'm pretty bored this season all around.

Shocked to see the score.
   40. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:05 PM (#5728346)
THIRTY-TWO RUNS
   41. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:05 PM (#5728347)
Jim Salisbury @JSalisburyNBCS
Scott Kingery is pitching. He is lobbing the ball so slowly it is not being picked up by the stadium gun. It's like coach pitch. This is an embarrassment.

Trailing 24-4 is not embarassing though, noooooo, not at all.
   42. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:05 PM (#5728348)
THIRTY-THREE RUNS
   43. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:06 PM (#5728349)
THIRTY-FOUR RUNS
   44. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:06 PM (#5728350)
THIRTY-FIVE RUNS
   45. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:06 PM (#5728351)
THIRTY-SIX RUNS
   46. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:06 PM (#5728352)
THIRTY-SEVEN RUNS
   47. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:07 PM (#5728353)
THIRTY-EIGHT RUNS
   48. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:07 PM (#5728356)
THIRTY-NINE RUNS
   49. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:07 PM (#5728357)
FORTY RUNS

(there, all caught up)
   50. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:08 PM (#5728360)
Let's see if the Jets can score as many points as the Mets !
   51. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:09 PM (#5728361)
Checks scores 1st time today(it's morning here in Sydney)....

No Red Sox game today, NY loses so Sox pick up half a game, 10 1/2 game lead so that's pretty good.

Mets looking to improve their pythag record with these last 2 games.

Where was this cr*ppy pitching yesterday when the Red Sox had to play the Phils?
   52. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:09 PM (#5728362)
Mets and Phillies have another game tonight

will the 2018 Mets, of all teams, set a two-day record for runs scored?

there have been teams that have played back-to-back doubleheaders and a century ago I think there was a tripleheader or two, but....
   53. there isn't anything to do in buffalo but 57i66135 Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:10 PM (#5728363)
I've never seen a contender so weak in the fundamentals of the game. Their pitchers have great but defense, base running and putting the bat on the ball, ugh, tough to watch many, many games.
nowhere to go but up!!!!

it's kind of impressive that they're winning games despite only having 1 above average starting position player (according to rallyWAR).
   54. perros Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:13 PM (#5728369)
Not sure what's worse, Kapler pitching Quinn and Kingery for three innings in a blowout, or Dave Roberts last night using Kenta Maeda as a pinch-hitter in the bottom of the ninth, two on, two out, tie score, because he had no position players left.

   55. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:19 PM (#5728373)
Edmundo's cushions aren't that crowded, because he's right. Whenever I have checked out Phillies games this year their defense just doesn't impress me. More "ooopsies" than I'd expect out of a playoff-caliber team. That 5th inning today featured a balk, fielding error, and a wild pitch among other goofs that never appear in the box score that allowed 10 runs in one inning. It's gotta be the Braves in the NL East this year.
   56. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:23 PM (#5728379)
Mets radio guys just confirmed that 40 runs in two days IS an MLB record - so the new mark will be 40 + whatever the Mets score tonight.
   57. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:24 PM (#5728381)
Watch the Mets get shutout tonight, just so the Baseball Gods can have a good belly laugh.
   58. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:28 PM (#5728382)
Crappy umpiring all the way... ball down the line that is pretty clearly foul, is called fair by the ump. Then a fan clearly interferes with the ball and the umps don't see it.

Sadly then you get the Cardinal announcers perplexed that the original call foul or fair isn't reviewable, mis-interpreting the rule... They are arguing that since the ump is behind the bag, and the rule is that if the ball is called fair or foul past the bag, that it's reviewable..... and that is of course not the rule. The rule is if the call of fair or foul is based upon the ball before or after the bag, then it determines whether it's reviewable. If the ball hits the ground before the bag, then it is not reviewable, if it hists after the bag, it's reviewable... this was a ground ball so it's not reviewable...

But color me shocked, that the Cardinal announcers don't comprehend the replay review rules.
   59. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:29 PM (#5728385)
Mets radio guys just confirmed that 40 runs in two days IS an MLB record - so the new mark will be 40 + whatever the Mets score tonight.


Again, I know, nobody cares about your fantasy team, but these past two days have been nice. I have the "Mets + 10 players drafted from teams not claimed" as my fantasy team.
   60. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:31 PM (#5728387)
(MLB execs huddle in Manhattan office, discussing what to do about Urena plunking Acuna on the first pitch of the game last night. One exasperated VP says, "This is even worse than that 'slide' Utley pulled in the playoffs a few years ago! I say Urena has to miss however many games Utley wound up having to sit out - and then we add SIX to it!"

High-fives and cigars all around. Then some poor underling has to inform them as he writes up the announcement, sighs and says, "So six games for Urena.")

DOH!
   61. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:34 PM (#5728388)
It's a starting pitcher, so any punishment of less than 8 games is a joke. But at the same time, I get that you shouldn't match the punishment with the guys job. It would quickly be a union issue if a starting pitcher is getting more games punishment than other players simply because of the nature of the job.
   62. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:51 PM (#5728401)
Then a fan clearly interferes with the ball and the umps don't see it.

I think they saw it, and even had a meeting about it, but didn't think it adversely affected the play. Can't tell for sure from the camera angle shown, but the ball probably would have bounced further away from the fielder if it hadn't been slowed down by the fan. In any event, seems OK for the close calls to go against the home team on fan interference.
   63. TomH Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:52 PM (#5728403)
what is the record for most runs scored by a team in
- 2 consecutive games?
- 3 consecutive games?
Mets have 40 in 2, and working on another big one maybe....
   64. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:55 PM (#5728408)
Not sure which is worst, non-stop fellatio from the Cardinals announcers towards Shildt, or even ####### worse, an in game interview with someone that nobody on the ####### planet cares about. "first japanese to win the Indy 500" or some #### like that.

Meanwhile the game is going to hell in a handbasket, and the announcers haven't said two words about it because they are stuck with this contractually obligated interview with this nobody.
   65. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:56 PM (#5728409)
63, meet 56 for part I of your query

- Phillies hit 4 HR in the first 4 innings of that game, and in fact outHRd the Mets 4-3

- Bautista becomes the 3rd MLB player to knock in 7 runs in a game in which the player was not in the starting lineup

- the 1962 version of this was the old joke, where a kid runs up excitedly to a parent and says, Guess what - the Mets scored 24 runs today!" and the parent replies, "Did they win?"
   66. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:58 PM (#5728412)
This is the best Lester has looked in months.
   67. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:59 PM (#5728413)
I think they saw it, and even had a meeting about it, but didn't think it adversely affected the play. Can't tell for sure from the camera angle shown, but the ball probably would have bounced further away from the fielder if it hadn't been slowed down by the fan. In any event, seems OK for the close calls to go against the home team on fan interference.


It clearly affected the play, I don't see how anyone could argue that it didn't. If the ball has a normal rebound there is no way that the Nationals even send the runner. I get that the homecrowd fan interfered, and should be fed to the ####### lions for being an idiot, or be made to wear a Nationals jersey for the rest of the year as mandated by a judge, if he fails, then he should be locked up so he can't damage the rest of good society.....

but yes it absolutely affected the play. Ultimately it didn't affect the result, a sacrifice fly on the next batter, which probably would have happened either way, so the score is still the same, but it doesn't negate that the call was wrong. And a public flogging should take place in front of the Stan Musial statue.
   68. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 16, 2018 at 07:59 PM (#5728414)
Not sure which is worst, non-stop fellatio from the Cardinals announcers towards Shildt

I suspect you're a contrarian, considering how much you disagreed with the matheny criticism and how critical you are off the new guy. I'm not saying you're wrong.
   69. TomH Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:00 PM (#5728417)
Howie, are we sure 40 in 2 days is exactly the same as "consecutive games"? Not meanign to be pedantic, but some times these guys word record oddly. Maybe an offday didn't get searched.
   70. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:04 PM (#5728419)
FORTY-ONE RUNS
   71. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:04 PM (#5728420)
FORTY-TWO RUNS
   72. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:05 PM (#5728421)
Article about the minor league Palm Beach Cardinals having trouble getting a lot of their games in.

The Cardinals, through August 14th, have played 115 total games. An astounding 45% of those games have NOT been a conventional start-on-time, play nine innings, and go home kind of day.
   73. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:05 PM (#5728422)
Howie, are we sure 40 in 2 days is exactly the same as "consecutive games"? Not meanign to be pedantic, but some times these guys word record oddly. Maybe an offday didn't get searched.

fair point. I didn't take down the exact wording
   74. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:07 PM (#5728424)


Not sure where the they came up with the 2 game record is 40 runs, the Red Sox in 1950 scored 49 runs in two games from June 7- June 8th over two consecutive games.... Pittsburgh had 45 in 1925. (at least according to Pi streak finder)
   75. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:13 PM (#5728427)
It clearly affected the play . . .

As I mentioned, the ball may have ricocheted further from the fielder if the fan hadn't helpfully slowed it to a full stop. Looked that way from the MASN broadcast, and the Nationals had one of the fastest players in MLB running. Looks like the right decision, although it was a judgment call.
   76. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:15 PM (#5728429)
Tanner Roark extends his rampage of offense and makes Max Scherzer proud with another hit, this one with 2 outs. He's 2-2 today.

#NoDH

(I am reduced to finding these few remaining specks of hope in this lost Nats season.)
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:23 PM (#5728433)
Had to get gas for my gf and had to listen to the Cardinal radio announcers, and they are just as incompetent, but about other issues..


Mike Shannon when Trea Turner is coming up to bat "this is an unheralded player, great defensive shortstop, but only has a .268 average, but he's a terrific player.... "

umm Mike, I'm not sure where your definition of unheralded comes from, but the guy who was the number 9-13th prospect in baseball at the beginning of 2016 is not what you would call unheralded, and you know being the 13th overall pick doesn't usually equal unheralded.
   78. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:25 PM (#5728434)
Carpenter can't catch the throw to 1B so the unheralded Trea Turner extends the inning while loading the bases for some scrub named Bryce Harper.

EDIT: Ohhh, too bad! No home run today. But a solid single to CF scores Roark and juuuuuuuuuust barely Adam Eaton, who moves not much better than a rebuilt Daniel Murphy.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:26 PM (#5728437)
Safe, poor throw by Bader.
   80. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:27 PM (#5728438)
It would quickly be a union issue if a starting pitcher is getting more games punishment than other players simply because of the nature of the job.

Huh? This has been going on for years. Position players get a game or two, relievers get a game or three, starters get at least 5 days (enough to at least have a start pushed back). Otherwise, the team doesn't pay any price. There is a money issue and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a formal or informal agreement about that.
   81. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:27 PM (#5728441)
Not sure that Flaherty would have done any worse in that situation though. Shildt has a fascination with pulling pitchers early if he can, must be from managing in the minors.
   82. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:28 PM (#5728442)
So JD mentioned that Lester was offered a pro (development) soccer contract at some point. I can just see -- nails shots from 30 meters out, can't get a penalty kick to go more than 5 feet.
   83. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5728443)
Huh? This has been going on for years. Position players get a game or two, relievers get a game or three, starters get at least 5 days (enough to at least have a start pushed back). Otherwise, the team doesn't pay any price. There is a money issue and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a formal or informal agreement about that.


5 vs 3 is one thing, and I was arguing for 8 vs 2 more or less, although I think position players aren't punished enough for their transgressions, and neither are relievers, and consequently neither are starting pitchers.

And imagine what the argument might be for a D-ray pitcher?
   84. Bote Man the walk-off king Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:31 PM (#5728445)
Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
David Wright went 0-for-3 tonight in his latest rehab game for Class A St. Lucie, playing six innings at third base. Overall, Wright is 0-for-10 with two walks and five strikeouts in four games

It would be a hell of a comeback, but it just doesn't look like it's in the cards for David Wright.
   85. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:38 PM (#5728449)
McLaughlin is talking about the lack of power from Ozuna, but it does look like it to me that his power has returned, and a problem that might have contributed to his lack of power, was his arm issues, something that was a poorly kept secret, he could sometimes make one good throw a week, but for the most part he was underhanding anything he caught in the outfield back to the infield. There is a good possibility that this might have affected his power, and it's appearing that it's healed a bit, and his power is returning some.
   86. perros Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:41 PM (#5728452)
Yes, the Phillies field terribly. Hoskins in left reminds me of a drunken peg-legged pirate wearing an eyepatch and a hook instead of a glove...
   87. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:45 PM (#5728455)
Cardinals hof ceremony this weekend, and it's funny listening to Mclaughlin talk about something Cardinal related and not giving shildt a bj... and talking about Coleman and Lankford's hall of fame speech.... Coleman stole 100 bases and will talk for 100 minutes, Ray's speech, the over/under is two sentences. I've seen Vince Coleman speak live a few times, and he has a certain charm, but he definitely overstays his welcome.... Ray on the other hand has probably not said that much publicly over the past 2 decades, he's just a quiet guy, not a shy guy like McGee, just a guy who doesn't insist on being in front of the cameras, so it's going to be interesting to see what he does.
   88. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:46 PM (#5728456)
So.... freeze dry this Lester and keep it in storage till October?
   89. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:49 PM (#5728460)
Willy's arm and Javys tags. Beautiful.
   90. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:49 PM (#5728461)
Javy tag!
   91. Meatwad Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:50 PM (#5728462)
Very nice play. I wonder does lester come out for the 7th?
   92. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:54 PM (#5728467)
Poor defense by the Cardinals, Wong with a panic throw for now reason on a potential decent play. This team is looking gassed right now.
   93. Brian C Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:55 PM (#5728469)
That's such a routine kind of play for Javy now that Len and Deshaies barely even notice it. But I thought that was a really nice Javy tag that most players just can't make.
   94. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:55 PM (#5728470)
Lester is indeed doing great, but they're also looking like Ivan Nova is going to be added to the Scherzer List.
   95. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:56 PM (#5728471)
Probably the right call, but I'd have had him lay down the bunt and given him till one batter on in the 7th
   96. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 16, 2018 at 08:59 PM (#5728475)
The Pirates bring in Richard Rodriguez. Think he'll put Dick-Rod on the back of his jersey for Players' Weekend?
   97. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5728477)
David Wright went 0-for-3 tonight in his latest rehab game for Class A St. Lucie, playing six innings at third base. Overall, Wright is 0-for-10 with two walks and five strikeouts in four games

Given how long Wright was out, he'll probably need the full almost spring training length rehab assignment to get his timing back, if it happens at all.
   98. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 16, 2018 at 09:03 PM (#5728481)
I went to PNC a few weeks ago for the first time and it was truly spectacular - it lives up to its reputation and then some. Pittsburgh is a great place to spend a weekend, as well. Highly recommended.
   99. Brian C Posted: August 16, 2018 at 09:04 PM (#5728482)
Probably the right call, but I'd have had him lay down the bunt and given him till one batter on in the 7th

Great, that way you give up the benefit of a better hitter in exchange for nothing at all.
   100. Brian C Posted: August 16, 2018 at 09:05 PM (#5728485)
I went to PNC a few weeks ago for the first time and it was truly spectacular - it lives up to its reputation and then some. Pittsburgh is a great place to spend a weekend, as well. Highly recommended.

Agreed on both counts. I was there in 2012 (I think) and had exactly the same reaction.
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