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Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Astros - Signed Lamb

Houston Astros - Signed IF Mike Lamb to a 1-year contract.

When this transaction came over the wire, I thought that perhaps this would be uninteresting to humans given the action-packed offseason so far.  But, if humans don’t find a lot exciting about a 1-year contract to Mike Lamb, perhaps computers can find it more exhilarating.

So, I decided to have a discussion with Jabberwacky’s George, one of the AI Chat programs that has attempted to “beat” the Turing test and see what it thinks about Mike Lamb.  Ken Arneson of Catfish Stew led the way a couple of months ago, pioneering the use of computers to evaluate baseball.


George: What would you like to talk about first?
Oracle: Mike Lamb.
George: Wow, those are great names.
Oracle: Don’t you like baseball?
George: Of course I do. I’m not THAT stupid.
Oracle: Mike Lamb is a baseball player for the Houston Astros.
George: Are you from Toronto?
Oracle: No, but I went there last July.
George: Did you like it?
Oracle: Yes, but I would like to talk about the Houston Astros.
George:  I don’t know anything about the history of India. Tell me about it.
Oracle: There was a Gupta dynasty, a lot of British people, Dell customer support and Mike Lamb freed the slaves.
George: Yes.
Oracle: Nowadays, Mike Lamb fills in for Jeff Bagwell.
George: Really ? They said me your name was Dan, isn’t it ?
Oracle: Why won’t you talk to me about Mike Lamb?
George: I am talking to you.
Oracle: What will Mike Lamb do in 2006?
George: I will tell her that your new name is Haggis.
Oracle: Who do you like better, Lamb or Bagwell?
George: I don’t know who Durwood Kirby is.
Oracle: There was a player named Wayne Kirby, but he never played for the Astros.
George: In which league do they play?
Oracle: The National League.
George: Cool, who’s your favourite player?
Oracle: Tell me yours and I’ll tell you mine.
George: My name is Mike. Whats yours?
Oracle: Oh my God!  Are you Mike Lamb?
George: No, I’m cool.
Oracle: Who’s a better 3rd baseman, Mike Lamb or Mike Schmidt?
George: Mike Schmidt.
Oracle: Who is the best baseball player?
George: I don’t know. I am not interested in baseball.
Oracle: Do you know ZiPS?
George: No.
Oracle: My computer is smarter than you, then.
George: Your computer doesn’t have any moving parts.
Oracle: Have you spoken to Chris Truby recently?
George: I’m going to be honest, no.

That about sums it up.  Mike Lamb is neither cool, nor the best 3rd baseman in baseball history.

 

2006 ZiPS Projection - Mike Lamb
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AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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312 40   78 14 4 11 48 30 61   1 .250 .315 .426

 

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 13, 2005 at 06:38 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mister High Standards Posted: December 13, 2005 at 07:14 PM (#1775493)
That was neato. Now stop goofing off and get to work.
   2. base ball chick Posted: December 13, 2005 at 07:35 PM (#1775524)
agree that mike lamb is not the best third baseman in baseball.

fortunately, he is an OK FIRST baseman and PH and that's what he gonna be used for. because if he go back in the OF, there gonna be tar and feathers waiting for phil...

it's not a terrible signing. there aren't that many lefties available and lamb isn't so bad.

now if you gonna say that we need a david ortiz quality Bat i'm the last one to argue with you. for once...
   3. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: December 14, 2005 at 12:55 AM (#1776143)
Maybe George knows about Peter Gammons!
   4. Pregnant women are Mug Posted: December 14, 2005 at 01:00 AM (#1776153)
That was damn funny.
   5. villainx Posted: December 14, 2005 at 02:09 AM (#1776233)
pioneering the use of computers to evaluate baseball.

computers? can computers see how a batter swings, or a pitch's mechanics? can computers see in a players heart? only scouts and prez bush can. computers, ha! those things will never catch on in baseball.
   6. The Hop-Clop Goes On (psa1) Posted: December 14, 2005 at 07:11 AM (#1776487)
It's kind of odd that in a conversation between "Oracle" and "George," Oracle is the human.

Just sayin'...
   7. Walt Davis Posted: December 14, 2005 at 08:55 AM (#1776551)
Mike Lamb is neither cool, nor the best 3rd baseman in baseball history.

But he's better than Chris Truby! And he probably knows more about the history of India than Dan. :-) How you could not even mention the non-violence of Gandy is beyond me.
   8. Greg Franklin Posted: December 14, 2005 at 11:08 AM (#1776602)
George: I don't know anything about the history of India. Tell me about it.
Oracle: There was a Gupta dynasty, a lot of British people, Dell customer support and Mike Lamb freed the slaves.

And Mike Crudale.
   9. Vida Blew Over the Legal Limit Posted: December 14, 2005 at 06:01 PM (#1776994)
Funny shite, man.
   10. Zac Schmitt Posted: December 14, 2005 at 10:02 PM (#1777455)
we have neglected to discuss the most important question, which is whether george passed the turing test.

i vote yes. i know many human beings who are far less coherent than him.
   11. MM1f Posted: December 15, 2005 at 03:30 AM (#1777934)
Whats the turing test?
   12. Zac Schmitt Posted: December 16, 2005 at 02:28 AM (#1779467)
i'm not the most qualified person to be talking about it, but it's basically an open challange to see if a computer program can "pass" as a human being. google it and you'll find some good stuff.

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