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Friday, April 02, 2004

Atlanta Braves

Released OF Gary Matthews Jr.

Do decisions based on spring training statistics that contradict a player’s entire career ever work out?  Little Sarge is no great shakes, but he’s a suitable 4th outfielder, something the Braves don’t feel they need.

Dan Szymborski Posted: April 02, 2004 at 04:39 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. Clyde Posted: November 26, 2003 at 04:12 AM (#568550)
I wonder if the Pads have designs on plugging Henri Stanley into a spot at some point. This excites Clyde. I don't think Giles can handle Center.
   202. MM1f Posted: November 26, 2003 at 04:33 PM (#568551)
I guess this mean Langerhans is going to be down in Richmond for the year...
   203. ChuckO Posted: December 06, 2003 at 04:18 AM (#569295)
This year we'll find out if Mazzone is really a great pitching coach or if Maddux was the real pitching coach. Two years ago Mazzone was talking about the pitchers's meeting about the other team's batters. They would go over the scouts's reports. Occasionally Maddux would tell them the scouting report was wrong. Mazzone said they would go with Maddux's take on the batter. Maddux was also something of a guru for a number of Atlanta's pitchers.
   204. MM1f Posted: December 10, 2003 at 01:07 AM (#569654)
"The Rangers offered Thomson arbitration, so they'll receive a draft pick as compensation for him signing with the Braves."

AHHH!!!!

Pleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounderpleasetellmeitsathirdrounder...

BTW, what's the money. Better not be over 1 or 1.5 per.
   205. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: December 10, 2003 at 02:38 AM (#569658)
It wouldn't surprise me if Thomson's ZIPS projection was conservative...like .5 of ERA conservative or more.

The man can flat-out pitch. Look at his half-a-season of ~4 ERA on Planet Coors in '01. Look at his second half last season (~3.2 ERA pitching in the Bandbox at Arlington). One of these years he's gonna get it all together and put together a season of 3.25 ERA...and with the Rangers' luck it will be '04.

At least that's two draft picks for the Rangers to use (wisely, I hope).

Big John
   206. stephen Posted: December 10, 2003 at 04:22 AM (#569660)
My brain is telling me to agree with all of the fairly positive comments about Thompson and this signing. . . but I keep hearing this whispering in my left ear about a 30-year-old guy coming off his career year - including career high in IPs, IIRC.

Anyone else hearing similar whispers. . . or am I just a smidge too paranoid today?

related question: Is there anything wrong with being paranoid?
   207. RickG Posted: December 10, 2003 at 05:57 AM (#569661)
John Thomson has a career 3.33 ERA for the Johannesburg Steelmen of Weaverball (see Homepage for career stats). He's played in good pitchers' environments his whole life.

I know nobody cares, I just always follow Thomson's career because I own him.
   208. MM1f Posted: December 10, 2003 at 09:44 PM (#569666)
"Can one of the moderators please edit NMS's original post."

My bad, I didn't know it would go waaaaay over there. Expected it wrap down.

BTW, does any one else have problem reading the ZiPS. I can read the raw #s but not the avg/OBP/SLG. I have the copy and paste the post to see those. Not a big deal, just a minor annoyance.

BTW again, "nope... It'll be a first rounder."
   209. RickG Posted: December 10, 2003 at 09:51 PM (#569667)
LOL at the Scott Karl joke.

To answer the K/BB question, I don't know, but my guess would be that his Control level jumped high in the offseason. That's all I can think.
   210. ColonelTom Posted: December 14, 2003 at 12:39 AM (#569929)
Marrero is an excellent role player and in a rare turn of events, the Braves continue to build an excellent bench

Marrero's got to be their starting catcher. And a pretty good one, I think. Nice move for both teams.
   211. xdog Posted: December 14, 2003 at 12:46 AM (#569930)
Estrada will catch, at least as of today.

Marrero will back up Estrada and play RF on the (hopefully few) days that Drew can't go.
   212. BrandonMO (U L) Posted: December 14, 2003 at 12:52 AM (#569931)
You mean the Cardinals won't sign Rickey?

;)
   213. Kyle S Posted: December 14, 2003 at 01:10 AM (#569933)
I'm glad the Braves have given up on developing starting pitchers. It's not like those Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, Schmidt, and Millwood guys ever amounted to much. I'd rather see them make canny decisions on free agents. Like signing Paul Byrd... and Albie Lopez.
   214. BrandonMO (U L) Posted: December 14, 2003 at 01:31 AM (#569938)
If I had to put together an Independent team, how much money would it take for me to get Rickey, Andres Galarraga, and Jose Canseco?

Any word on where Andres will land in 2004? Maybe the Yankees will sign him for some reason (or the Mets)
   215. BrandonMO (U L) Posted: December 14, 2003 at 02:06 AM (#569941)
Any idea if Derek Bell or Jeff King will return from oblivion?
   216. NTNgod Posted: December 14, 2003 at 02:20 AM (#569942)
All right, who broke the Oracle sidebar?
   217. Joel Barrett Posted: December 14, 2003 at 02:40 AM (#569943)
"Gee Dan, I'm flattered that you think I'm an excellent role player, but don't you think you may be overrating me a bit."

I don't think he is.

Eli, you were not healthy this past season, and thus you were not particularly an "excellent role player" in 2003. However, you were both healthy and an "excellent role player" in 2001-2002, when you had a combined 600 at bats with 24 home runs and an OPS of .769.

"I put up a McEwingesque 224/267/355 last year"

In a whopping 107 at bats. After playing injured early in the season (with a deep thigh bruise caused by a collision with Vina), and after coming back from ankle surgery while still less than 100%.

Meanwhile, your 3-year average is 257/314/433 (in 707 at bats), you can play C/1B/OF (which just happen to all be positions in which the Braves need depth), and in a pinch you could probably handle any position except SS.

If you get hurt again, you may disappoint. But you were reasonably healthy the previous 2 years, so I don't think that it is proven that you are exceptionally injury prone. I also don't know of any alternative players that are guaranteed to be immune to injuries.
   218. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 14, 2003 at 03:08 AM (#569944)
I'm not a believer in Marquis, but the addition of Wainwright makes this a good deal for the Cards.
   219. Kyle S Posted: December 14, 2003 at 07:16 AM (#569953)
John Thom(p)son, the jury is still out on you. You could do Schuerholtz a favor by blowing our your elbow in spring training, and thus fitting right in with the Byrd Man and Albie. Although, in fairness, no one could touch the standards of awfulness that Albie set - he wasn't even fit to go in to the 3rd inning with the Braves down by 10. And he made $4.5 million. How times have changed.
   220. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: December 14, 2003 at 07:57 AM (#569954)
"renteria for jones AND mohr a steal for whom? two quality major leaguers for the price of one? i don't see your logic. jones is a k machine, but renteria is not the answer...to anything. and i enjoy d mohr."

Except that Mohr doesn't hit righties and Jones doesn't hit lefties. So it's a trade of one player for two players who are the equivalent of one player. And a trade of SS for OF. Renteria is a better player than Jones and Mohr combined.
   221. OCF Posted: December 15, 2003 at 05:13 PM (#569961)
Any Cardinal fan, on hearing of this, has to think of Andy Van Slyke. The similarities are too strong to overlook: good-defense in RF/CF, left-handed hitter with large platoon split, medium power and respectable walks, never really played every day in St. Louis. The following is a short list of their records by age, with italics in Van Slyke's case for performances away from St. Louis.

Van Slyke ___ Drew
   222. Cferejohn Posted: December 16, 2003 at 01:09 AM (#569962)
Is there really a pitcher named Burger King? Shouldn't he have been traded for Mo Vaughn?

That's Ray King.

It's funny because he's fat.

Get it?

;P
   223. MM1f Posted: December 16, 2003 at 03:49 AM (#569964)
Wow, more incredibly useless factettes, I think my brain (or at least the matter occupying that area) spews out more of this junk when I'm overtired; in lieu of useful thoughts.

Anyways, IIRC King started out in the Cardinals org. I remember him in a 3way deal w/ the Reds and someone else (anton french was in this deal) then he was traded with Chad Fox (for Mike Kelly I think).

Yaaaawn..
   224. MM1f Posted: December 16, 2003 at 03:50 AM (#569965)
Or something like that...
   225. flournoy Posted: December 16, 2003 at 03:52 PM (#569966)
That's funny, as both Anton French and Mike Kelly started out in the Braves' organization. And both were worthless.
   226. flournoy Posted: December 16, 2003 at 05:00 PM (#569968)
Actually, upon a check, he was originally drafted by the Reds in 1995.
   227. ColonelTom Posted: December 18, 2003 at 03:47 PM (#569970)
Bobby Cox's obsession with having a third catcher on the roster has now infected the Braves' regular-season roster - they just signed Eddie Perez to back up Estrada.
   228. flournoy Posted: December 18, 2003 at 04:44 PM (#569971)
ColonelTom, you know that the Braves didn't carry a third catcher during the 2003 playoffs. Cox realized that Robert Fick would serve just fine as an emergency catcher. So I don't think it's as much an obsession as a reasonable precaution.
   229. ColonelTom Posted: December 18, 2003 at 10:10 PM (#569972)
Maybe they hope Maddux will come back to his personal catcher...
   230. flournoy Posted: December 18, 2003 at 11:39 PM (#569973)
And join Charlie O'Brien in retirement? Or go play with Paul Bako with the Cubs? Or go play with Henry Blanco and the Twins? No reason to be a troll.

Eddie Perez is a good signing for Atlanta. While Marrero is most valuable as a catcher, it allows the Braves to use his capability of playing many positions.
   231. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: December 22, 2003 at 08:26 PM (#570708)
Mwa ha ha! Zee curse of El Pulpo, she eez leefted!

Mark my words, by midseason this will look like revenge for the Maddux signing. For a Braves team that no longer will get daily dominance from their starting pitchers, the bullpen becomes doubly important. And this guy isn't the answer.

I always got the feeling last year that many of his bad performances were accompanied by the attitude that he felt wrongfully displaced from his closer position under the "you don't lose your spot because of injury" rubric. I think Alf prefers to close because he knows that, as a reliever, that's where the glory (and the money) are. As a marginal 6th-7th inning guy, he's certainly not going to be worth what the Braves probably gave him. But bless them for taking him off the market before the Cubs developed collective amnesia concerning just how many close games he helped turn into blowouts last year. In 25% of his games (15 out of 60) he allowed 2 or more earned runs, a statistic which does not count the number of inherited runners he also allowed.
   232. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: December 22, 2003 at 10:31 PM (#570712)
Right now, Bong and Hodges are the collective 5th starter.
   233. xdog Posted: December 22, 2003 at 11:00 PM (#570715)
re: Paul Byrd's status

Unofficially projected to return 'by summer'.

I don't know what would be worse, if he returns or if he doesn't.
   234. Kyle S Posted: December 23, 2003 at 12:19 AM (#570716)
Alfonseca, besides last year, has been slightly above league average. Unless this is a situation like Roberto Hernandez last year where he was clearly over the hill, I think this will turn out okay. Sure, it's terrible compared to getting Worrell or Rhodes, but we were not willing to offer the closer spot to Rhodes, so we couldn't get him.
   235. MM1f Posted: December 23, 2003 at 06:13 AM (#570719)
"w/ bong being the only lefty..."

Andy Pratt had a nice year in AAA, leading the IL in Ks and had a nice ERA too. I don't know if they are looking at him as a fifth starter candidate (they already have Hampton and Horacio Ramirez as rotation lefties) or as a pen guy.
   236. Bart Posted: January 22, 2004 at 06:34 PM (#571841)
Chapman signed a minor league deal with the Royals a couple of days ago. He's no longer an option.
   237. Walt Davis Posted: January 22, 2004 at 06:48 PM (#571846)
The last 5 years or so, the Braves have been one of the toughest teams to K. Other than Andruw Jones and Galarraga's brief stop, they haven't had a high-K player since Klesko and McGriff left. They've also never been known for carrying good bats on the bench and Branyan is not a glove man. My guess is Branyan won't make the club.
   238. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 22, 2004 at 07:27 PM (#571848)
Ah, Chapman's official now?
   239. Bill Posted: January 22, 2004 at 09:00 PM (#571850)
Nah, nothing o-fficial on Chapman yet, at least not from a quick Google search (which brought up Dick Kaegel's KC Star story from Tuesday) or the Royals own site. The Royals did just avoid arbitration with Carlos Beltran, though. 1 year, $9,000,000.

Can't stand the Braves, but I'm thinking/hoping that Branyan is a good signing. Always liked the guy for some reason, after growing up admiring "Kong" Kingman as a kid.
   240. Cferejohn Posted: January 22, 2004 at 11:04 PM (#571851)
I met Branyan once, and although he's a horseshit ballplayer...

Branyan has a career OPS+ of 101. Not exactly ideal from a defensively marginal 3B/OF, but a damn sight better than, say, Pedro Feliz. Certainly someone worth bringing off the bench for ~200 ABs in a season.
   241. scott Posted: January 23, 2004 at 09:07 AM (#571852)
Branyan ain't a horrible player. he's probably better than a couple opening day 3b's. he's got power, and not much else.
   242. MM1f Posted: February 05, 2004 at 02:11 AM (#571863)
"betemit/hessman/marte please hurry up and develop... "

Hessman?
   243. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: March 25, 2004 at 11:03 PM (#573048)
Meh. So the Cruz non-experiment finally ends. I still say that, had he gotten a chance to pitch in a regular rotation for a full season, he would have proven to be a better than league average starter. Definitely a notch below Wood and Prior, but it's not like league average starters grow on trees (well, at least not on 50% of trees).

Sadly, I'm at work without my BPro 2004 to check stats on Pratt. But his raw stats show that he should fit right in with the Cubs -- strikes out about a man per inning, walks too many. 14 WP last year. He's a year younger than Cruz, and I guess that's something.

I'll look at this the same way I looked at the Cubs dumping of Choi. Cruz wasn't going to get to play, so at least they've tried to turn him around for something. I hate to think that, after 2001, they probably could have gotten major value for Cruz. He looked like someone with an unlimited ceiling.
   244. Bunny Vincennes Posted: March 25, 2004 at 11:11 PM (#573049)
I really, really thought Cruz had the makings to be somebody special. I could be completely dillusional, but the way I had seen him throw when he was getting consistent work, was wonderful. I'm a bit saddened by the move. I really liked Cruz in the mix. Hmm.
   245. Dr. Vaux Posted: March 25, 2004 at 11:46 PM (#573052)
At least the Braves will give him a chance to start when Wright stinks.
   246. Bunny Vincennes Posted: March 26, 2004 at 12:14 AM (#573057)
jd:

At least you'd have somebody who actually resembled a starting pitcher. Lets face it dude, that rotation sucks.
   247. SM in DC Posted: March 26, 2004 at 12:26 AM (#573059)
In jd's defense Jack, the Reds have at least one legit starter... i think he used to be a Yankee, they traded him for what's his name... you know :-)
   248. Andere Richtingen Posted: March 26, 2004 at 01:07 AM (#573062)
I don't see McClain being on the Cubs roster. The Cubs have an all right infield and seven righty-hitting starters. They need lefties on the bench. Badly.

Cruz has a lot of talent, but fact is, you have to question whether he is a legitimate major league. Tremendous upside, but he hasn't really shown it for any extended period. I liked him as insurance against a starter getting hurt, but I'm not sure that I like Pratt less.

Good trade for the Cubs, I think. Cruz was questionable under Dusty, and Pratt fills a need for a lefty in the bullpen with Remlinger out and Mercker questionable even if his back healthy. Lewis is a nice throw-in.
   249. Ziggy Posted: March 26, 2004 at 01:56 AM (#573064)
I dunno jd, the Reds really really really need some pitching. I like Dunn as much as the next guy, but it's starting to look like he's more Rob Deer than Reggie Jackson. Trading him for Edwin Jackson isn't going to make the Reds contenders, but it just might make them a better team.

I'm glad Cruz is going to get a chance somewhere. It's just amaizing that Dusty thought it a good idea to keep Estes in the rotation when he had Cruz waiting in the wings.
   250. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: March 26, 2004 at 02:35 AM (#573066)
So now who fills in as the insurance starter? Mitre?

Someone who will get the chance to help now isn't so bad (especially with Mercker's age). The Cubbies have enough good young arms in A ball that someone will survive the trip through the minors in time to be needed. If nothing else, throwing the money at Maddux means that one more spot in the starting ro is filled for at least two more years.

Pratt's numbers are pretty decent. His walks are high but his Ks are great and he keeps the ball down. He may have a little added value in a home run park like Wrigley with knee-high grass. I didn't look up his GB/FB... I'm just inferring this from his nice, low home run totals.
   251. H. Vaughn Posted: March 26, 2004 at 02:49 AM (#573067)
This was a move to fill a need from the Cubs - the lefty reliever hole left by ex-Braves Mercker and Remlinger, both old, dinged up and uncertain to be back anytime soon. Pratt has a nice K rate (7.7 equalized) but the guy walks (5.3) more people than Estes. I think Schuerholz just swapped a Micah Bowie clone for a guy with some of the most electric stuff in the league.
   252. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 26, 2004 at 05:24 AM (#573071)
I think that Cruz is unlikely to achieve the sort of things people have been projecting for him, but I also think he could've brought more value, so this is both a good trade and a bad one for the Cubs.

Stephenson is hurt and out for the year.
   253. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 26, 2004 at 06:46 AM (#573072)
The Reds are horrible.
   254. NTNgod Posted: March 26, 2004 at 07:08 AM (#573075)
They do get the Brewers...

Chief, even the BREWERS beat up on the Reds pitching last year (8-10, 5.36 ERA vs. MIL, 5.09 for the season)
   255. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: March 26, 2004 at 02:40 PM (#573078)
Optimism:
   256. Andere Richtingen Posted: March 26, 2004 at 02:45 PM (#573079)
? I have no problem with trading Cruz -- he's injury prone and has a delivery that promotes shoulder problems -- but Andy Pratt??? The Cubs have enough pitching in their system already, and I would have been much happier getting some hitting prospects.

Don't expect any trades from Hendry in the near future that involve supplementing the farm system. Expect perceived needs on the major league roster to be the focus, and his current focus was on lefties in the pen.
   257. Walt Davis Posted: March 26, 2004 at 05:17 PM (#573082)
A "challenge trade," curious george, is when a player's traded straight up (or more or less straight up, as in this deal) for a player who plays the same position and/or fills the same role on the roster. Choi for Lee was another.

I wouldn't call Choi for Lee a challenge trade. Choi for Lee was a salary move by the Marlins and Lee is an established major leaguer while Choi is not. To me a challenge trade is: 2 players at the same position and roughly the same perceived value and level of experience. It's two teams saying: "they look the same, but I think the guy I'm getting is better."
   258. True Blue n/k/a "DeJesusFreak" Posted: March 26, 2004 at 07:18 PM (#573085)
Question -- Am I correct in thinking that Pratt still has an option (he was called up by the Braves in 2002)?

It seems to me that this looks like a swap of 2 pitchers with promising stuff but erratic results/control. That said, considering that the Cubs are getting (a) a lefty and (b) a guy possibly with an option for 2004, I like the deal for the Cubs. At the very worst, they may be able to flip Pratt for something on the back-end and I don't think they've made themselves worse right now than they were earlier this week. As a Cubs fan, I'm not complaining.

It may also be a good deal for the Braves as well, but that depends on whether Cruz can put things together. With Leo Mazzone as his pitching coach, it is certainly possible.
   259. Walt Davis Posted: March 27, 2004 at 12:35 AM (#573089)
I think what really cost him his job was his two anemic spot starts near the end of last season when he came up from Iowa and wouldn't throw the change for a strike. He got lit up Estes-style

That and he's made Estes look like Walter Johnson in comparison this spring -- 7.1 IP, 17 H, 4 BB, 13.50 ERA. I don't think a young player can survive a spring with Dusty Baker with numbers like those.

Of course, Clement and Hawkins have been about as bad, but I'm pretty sure their jobs are safe. :-)

Also, is Mercker hurt? I see he's got only 2 IP this spring. That would also explain bringing in Pratt.
   260. Ziggy Posted: March 27, 2004 at 01:11 AM (#573096)
Yes, probably a good deal from both ends. Reitsma has promise, but it wasn't going to be realized with the Reds.
   261. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: March 27, 2004 at 01:24 AM (#573097)
Between Reitsma and Cruz, it looks like the Braves have cornered the market on isolating and obtaining good pitchers whose teams have given up on them.

There's a reason this team has won 92 straight division titles (or whatever it is)...
   262. Hey, Randy Milligan, turn off your laser beam eyes Posted: March 27, 2004 at 05:45 AM (#573090)
During the offseason, when I finally came to grips with the likelihood of Cruz' departure, I imagined him being traded to Boston, Oakland or Colorado and made into a 3ip+ reliever. Cruz doesn't hasn't shown the control and stamina to be a starter (career high in IP is 6?) but his ability to pace himself and throw effectively for multiple innings is underused as a one inning reliever. (I was terribly upset when Chip and Steve talked about his future as a closer.)

After they signed Maddux, Cruz' departure seemed inevitable. The Cubs actually getting something worthwhile in return is a pleasant surprise. Still it's disappointing that Cubs team of my dreams is beginning to slip away. Cruz, Choi, Hill, and Bellhorn are all gone.
   263. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: March 27, 2004 at 02:04 PM (#573091)
During the offseason, when I finally came to grips with the likelihood of Cruz' departure, I imagined him being traded to Boston, Oakland or Colorado and made into a 3ip+ reliever. Cruz doesn't hasn't shown the control and stamina to be a starter (career high in IP is 6?) but his ability to pace himself and throw effectively for multiple innings is underused as a one inning reliever. (I was terribly upset when Chip and Steve talked about his future as a closer.)

I dunno. The Braves have had some recent success with a guy who can only go 6 IP or 75 pitches a start. :)
   264. MM1f Posted: March 27, 2004 at 05:24 PM (#573102)
Whats with the Braves overpaying the Reds?
   265. Dolf Lucky Posted: March 27, 2004 at 05:41 PM (#573103)
I've seen numerous reactions to this trade, and it's split about 50-50 between those that think that Bong is the real prospect here, and those that think that Nelson's the guy.

My guess is that 100% of Reds fans have the sinking suspicion in the back of their heads that neither will amount to anything. But that's just a conditioned response.

Good trade for the Reds in theory. Reitsma's solid, but he wasn't ever going to win a ring in Cincy, and he was just counting down the days before he could bolt anyway.
   266. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 27, 2004 at 10:01 PM (#573092)
Still it's disappointing that Cubs team of my dreams is beginning to slip away. Cruz, Choi, Hill, and Bellhorn are all gone.
   267. The Original SJ Posted: March 28, 2004 at 05:26 AM (#573093)
Was Paul O'Neill for Roberto Kelley a challenge trade?
   268. Hey, Randy Milligan, turn off your laser beam eyes Posted: March 28, 2004 at 05:32 PM (#573094)
Your Cubs team of your dreams would be lucky to win 70 games.

That's a bunch of crap. The Cubs were winning last year with Choi at first, Bellhorn at 3b and Estes (as opposed to Cruz)in the starting rotation. Sure by replacing those players the Cubs have improved themselves, but not by as much as you imply.

1) By 1.8 OBP * SLg, Bellhorn (928) and Ramirez (1048) were reasonably close last year. Assuming Bellhorn's 2003 SLG in the 290's hasn't become a way of life for him, he and Ramirez will be pretty close in 2004.
   269. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 28, 2004 at 07:28 PM (#573107)
"It's worth noting that making pitching trades with the Braves, has for the better part of the past dozen years, been a bad idea. The Braves generally seem to come out pretty well while the other teams tend to get good-looking guys who are on the brink of collapse."

Of course, there are always exceptions. Jason Schmidt turned out pretty well, as did Odalis Perez.

The whole group isn't great, but it's still better than the track record of, say, traded San Francisco pitching prospects.
   270. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 02, 2004 at 05:05 AM (#573264)
Something they don't really have, either. I think they'll regret this one.
   271. Colin Posted: April 02, 2004 at 02:58 PM (#573268)
Matthews has a career line of 242/324/371, and is coming off a year in which he hit 248/314/361. The team apparently thinks Damon Hollins can at least match that.
   272. ChuckO Posted: April 02, 2004 at 08:32 PM (#573272)
It could be that they let Matthews go because they plan on keeping DeWayne Wise. Now Wise is no great shakes either but he can play CF. Andruw Jones apparently has been having problems with patellar tendinitis since last year. I'm guessing that Cox wants to rest Jones more and wants someone who can play respectable CF defense.
   273. MM1f Posted: April 03, 2004 at 04:59 AM (#573275)
Does this mean Langerhans is gonna make the team?
   274. Howie Menckel Posted: April 04, 2004 at 02:32 AM (#573277)
Damian Hollins sent down today. Marrero is the 4th OF, and Wise indeed has grabbed the 5th OF slot (Hesseman around for now as another option until Marrero is 100 pct). No Langerhans.
   275. NTNgod Posted: April 04, 2004 at 10:47 PM (#573280)
<i>Posted 9:39 p.m., April 3, 2004 (#15) - Diabetic Braves Fans
   276. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 04, 2004 at 11:28 PM (#573281)
I don't know about the other teams, but Matthews got a shot in Pittsburgh in 2001 because almost every OF on the team was hurt and he happened to cross the WW at the right time. Regardless of whether you like him or not, he's a better choice than Andy Barkett or Alex Hernandez, both of whom were getting PT at the time.
   277. Toolsy McClutch Posted: April 06, 2004 at 05:19 PM (#573282)
Dude?
   278. NTNgod Posted: April 07, 2004 at 07:21 PM (#573283)
Matthews signed with Texas...AAA deal

Tyner released.

Ranger s press release
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