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Thursday, May 25, 2006

Blue Jays - Outrighted Towers, Demoted Adams

Toronto Blue Jays - Outrighted P Josh Towers to Syracuse; optioned SS Ryan Adams to Syracuse.

Towers was out of options and nobody wanted him, for good reason.  He’s always been the type of pitcher that absolutely needs pinpoint control to be effective - when he’s not hitting his spots exactly where he wants, he’s a BP pitcher.  The same thing happened at the end of his run with the Orioles some years ago.  Towers will surface occasionally in the majors and have stretches where he’s a contributor, but I’d never want to count on him in my rotation.  While Adams is actually have a better season defensively, bouncing back a bit from a downright embarrassing .780 zone rating in 2005, he’s also become increasingly error-prone and is on pace for nearly 40 errors.  The big problem now is that John McDonald is the starting shortstop, which is something nobody with an IQ greater than that of a rhubarb is happy about.

Dan Szymborski Posted: May 25, 2006 at 05:29 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Cris E Posted: May 25, 2006 at 06:53 PM (#2036900)
optioned SS Ryan Adams to Syracuse

According to his web site (www.ryan-adams.com), he's taking most of the summer off: nothing until Lollapalooza in Chicago on Aug 4 and The Hollywood Bowl on Sept 10.


The big problem now is that John McDonald is the starting shortstop, which is something nobody with an IQ greater than that of a rhubarb is happy about.


I know he can't hit a lick, but I thought McDonald was at least a solid glove guy. Just saying, don't go calling anyone happy about this or a rhubarb-head until they leave McDonald in there for a few months or introduce Juan Castro as a long term solution.
   2. Hit by Pitch Posted: May 25, 2006 at 07:06 PM (#2036948)
According to Ken Rosenthal Edgardo Alfonso will be the solution. He will play second and Hill will move to first.
   3. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 25, 2006 at 07:08 PM (#2036954)
It looks as though Adams will be playing 2B in Syracuse, and might move to that position permanently.

Adams's problem was the opposite of B.J. Upton's, and more like Steve Sax's. Adams was fine whenever he had to make plays on the move, but when the play was routine, and he had time to think - well, he did, and his throws were all over the place. Upton usually makes routine throws in rhythm, but when he's moving he tends to muscle up on the ball.

Luis Figueroa, whose picture appears next to "organizational soldier" in the baseball dictionary, is being called up to replace Adams.

-- MWE
   4. Hit by Pitch Posted: May 25, 2006 at 07:16 PM (#2036980)
"It looks as though Adams will be playing 2B in Syracuse, and might move to that position permanently."

The Rosenthal article says:

"Alfonzo, 32, is expected to join the Jays' Class AAA affiliate and play second base. If he performs well, he eventually could take over at second for the Jays. Aaron Hill, the team's current second baseman, then would move to shortstop."

They can't both play 2b at Syracuse and it's their only AAA affiliate, can they?
   5. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: May 25, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2037028)
Adams was one of my fantasy team's SS. The other was Clint Barmes. It's a deep league.
   6. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 25, 2006 at 07:50 PM (#2037060)
They can't both play 2b at Syracuse and it's their only AAA affiliate, can they?


No, they can't. However, I'm inclined to believe John Gibbons over Robothal. From the article on the <a href="http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060525&c>Blue Jays' site</a>:


Gibbons noted that Adams would spend time playing second base in the Minors and could have a future at second when he returns to the big-league roster.

When asked whether or not that meant Jays second baseman Aaron Hill, who played shortstop in the Minors, would return to his natural position, Gibbons responded by saying, "Down the road he might."

Gibbons added that playing second base might be easier for Adams, considering that most of his fielding issues have been with throwing.


-- MWE
   7. Hit by Pitch Posted: May 25, 2006 at 08:06 PM (#2037112)
I wonder how long "down the road" is? So if Hill stays at 2b and no deals materialize it will be Johnny Mac at SS. Great glove but not much of hitter. I think they're going to need better hitting out of the middle infield because the rest of the line up can't keep up the torrid pace it has to start the year. Bad hiiting by both Hill and Adams has been overshadowed by great performances from Rios, Johnson, Wells, Glaus, Hillenbrand etc..

The really poor pitching has also been overshadowed by the hot hitting.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 25, 2006 at 08:10 PM (#2037121)
So who takes their spots on the roster?
   9. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 25, 2006 at 08:14 PM (#2037126)
Luis Figueroa gets Adams's, as I said above. Haven't heard about Towers; my guess is that Marcum rides the shuttle back to Toronto until next week when Chacin is supposed to be back.

-- MWE
   10. Run Joe Run Posted: May 25, 2006 at 10:47 PM (#2037306)
MLB 101. What's the difference between being "outrighted" and "demoted"
   11. Hit by Pitch Posted: May 25, 2006 at 11:53 PM (#2037400)
"They can't both play 2b at Syracuse and it's their only AAA affiliate, can they?"

Alfonzo will go to AA.
   12. Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: May 25, 2006 at 11:59 PM (#2037413)
What's the difference between being "outrighted" and "demoted"

Being outrighted removes you from the 40-man roster, and (I think) in at least some cases exposes you to waiver claims.
   13. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 26, 2006 at 02:54 AM (#2037762)
Oops! I wasn't actually thinking of Ryan Adams the singer but Ryan Adams, the long-time Blue Jay usenet guy who lurks around here.
   14. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: May 26, 2006 at 03:06 AM (#2037773)
And I was thinking of Bryan Adams the singer and wondering what he was doing at Lollapalooza.
   15. Mattbert Posted: May 26, 2006 at 03:22 AM (#2037786)
I wonder how Adams and Hill will handle the stress of being in a long-distance relationship now. It can't be easy.
   16. Walt Davis Posted: May 26, 2006 at 07:46 AM (#2037896)
which is something nobody with an IQ greater than that of a rhubarb is happy about.

Surely there are 1 or 2 Yanks and Red Sox fans with an IQ greater than a rhubarb?
   17. Boileryard Posted: May 26, 2006 at 01:25 PM (#2037982)
Oops! I wasn't actually thinking of Ryan Adams the singer but Ryan Adams, the long-time Blue Jay usenet guy who lurks around here.

While I'm certainly flattered, couldn't you have included me in an entry where I get signed to a $50 million contract or something? Getting sent to the minors is a little embarrassing.
   18. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 26, 2006 at 01:31 PM (#2037989)
Being outrighted removes you from the 40-man roster, and (I think) in at least some cases exposes you to waiver claims.


A player must clear waivers before he can be outrighted from the 40-man. Towers cleared last week.

A team can put a player on revocable waivers at any time during a waiver period (which is a specific calendar period, defined in the Major League Rules) and if he clears, the waivers are good throughout that period. Teams can, and often do, put players on waivers when they have absolutely no intention of moving them at the time, just to give themselves the flexibility to do so later without having to go through a "designated for assignment" period.

-- MWE
   19. Outdoor Miner Posted: May 26, 2006 at 03:00 PM (#2038080)
I wonder how long "down the road" is? So if Hill stays at 2b and no deals materialize it will be Johnny Mac at SS.


From today's Toronto Star:

"For now, the incumbent Hill will continue at second but work out in preparation for shortstop. Within a month, the Jays hope to shuffle Hill to short permanently and fill second with Alfonzo, released by the Angels last week and signed by Toronto to a minor-league contract yesterday."

Stuff about Adam Kennedy trade rumours in there, too.
   20. Hit by Pitch Posted: May 26, 2006 at 11:08 PM (#2038879)
I can't believe they are going to play Glaus at SS. This is desperate.
   21. Rusty Priske Posted: May 27, 2006 at 04:58 PM (#2039785)
THe person brought up for Towers was Brian Talley.
   22. MM1f Posted: May 27, 2006 at 05:01 PM (#2039788)
"Oops! I wasn't actually thinking of Ryan Adams the singer but Ryan Adams, the long-time Blue Jay usenet guy who lurks around here."

Theres also a MLB draft prospect from a Catholic high school in New Orleans thats named Ryan Adams. Offensive minded 2b.
   23. badpunstrkagain Posted: May 28, 2006 at 05:55 PM (#2041016)
ok 1. John mcdonald is an excellent fielder. Don't think so? Check out his web gems from sat. overtime win against the white sox. No, he can't hit, but everybody else can.
usty Priske Posted: May 27, 2006 at 12:58 PM (#2039785)
THe person brought up for Towers was Brian Talley.
2. Incorrect. Ty Taubenheim was the pitcher brought up, aquired in the Lyle Overbay trade. And it's Brian Tallet, who should join the jays in the bullpen like he did earlier in the season.
3. Hill would never play first base, With Overbay, Hinske, Glaus and Hillenbrand all competent at first. If someone had told me that the Jays would lose Burnett, Chacin and Halladay for a spell and still be in the pack in the AL east I would have laughed in their face. They are defenitly showing improvement.

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